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Just ridicules! So many people enjoying the game with mods and so many people, including myself (which I first  bought the game on ps3), bought the game AGAIN on the pc version just for the mods! Look how many on YouTube/ Twitch enjoying playing with mods on FiveM or singleplayer.. If not the mods, this game was long gone a long time ago, the game is 4 years old if I'm not mistaking. Someone mentioned it here before already, take for example the game Euro Truck Simulator and American Truck Simulator, there's so many mods for this game which kept the game alive for 4 years and the game is still fun because of the mods. SCS, which is the developer, promotes modding and has a built-in mod manager in the game. 

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11 minutes ago, Dorian138 said:

Just ridicules! So many people enjoying the game with mods and so many people, including myself (which I first  bought the game on ps3), bought the game AGAIN on the pc version just for the mods! Look how many on YouTube/ Twitch enjoying playing with mods on FiveM or singleplayer.. If not the mods, this game was long gone a long time ago, the game is 4 years old if I'm not mistaking. Someone mentioned it here before already, take for example the game Euro Truck Simulator and American Truck Simulator, there's so many mods for this game which kept the game alive for 4 years and the game is still fun because of the mods. SCS, which is the developer, promotes modding and has a built-in mod manager in the game. 

First of all i completely disagree with what T2 did but........ GTA5 would continue to exist.  Saying that it would be "long gone" isn't a true statement at all. I completely get what your saying and understand but at the same time, saying stuff that isn't true isn't really helping or promoting anything.

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15 minutes ago, Chris200013 said:

First of all i completely disagree with what T2 did but........ GTA5 would continue to exist.  Saying that it would be "long gone" isn't a true statement at all. I completely get what your saying and understand but at the same time, saying stuff that isn't true isn't really helping or promoting anything.

This is my personal opinion and I respect your disagreement. Maybe the game would continue to exist but not on the same scale..  

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38 minutes ago, Hullian111 said:

Any word on that 'statement'?

 

Still waiting it seems. There is probably someone at Rockstar trying to write something, realizing it won't help, and throwing it in the garbage. I imagine there's a cliché garbage can full of crumpled paper in the PR department.

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49 minutes ago, Chris200013 said:

First of all i completely disagree with what T2 did but........ GTA5 would continue to exist.  Saying that it would be "long gone" isn't a true statement at all. I completely get what your saying and understand but at the same time, saying stuff that isn't true isn't really helping or promoting anything.

 

33 minutes ago, Dorian138 said:

This is my personal opinion and I respect your disagreement. Maybe the game would continue to exist but not on the same scale..  

 

Would GTA 5 still have players?  Yes, because there are a lot of people who purely play online and have no interest in modding.  If this situation is true, would I like for GTA V to die as a result of sheer stupidity?  Yes, but it's unlikely. That said, GTA V and Rockstar will feel the weight of their decision when most, if not all,  modders cease playing GTA V and never again purchase another GTA title.  The modding community and support is huge - so much so that Rockstar already can't ignore the severe backlash they are getting.

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Thinking of posting this as my review of GTA5 on Steam. There has been a wave of "thumbs down" reviews since yesterday and I was thinking of doing the same. If GTA 5 starts heading down the charts, it could open Take2 eyes and realize their mistake: LMK what you guys think.

 

(Of course by posting this online via my Steam account, I would be readily identifying myself as a modder and violating my license agreement....)

 

Sorry Take 2 and Rockstar, your actions this past week only serves the purpose to cut off a single player community with great imagination who took the GTA5 game to new heights. In your quest to control anything and everything around your game, you forgot the gaming community is all about creation.

 

While I agree with the policing of online modders that negatively affect the game, be it cutting off revenue streams or making the online experience un-enjoyable for players that play the game straight, a blanket punishment for the entire modding community is an affront to the spirit of gaming.

 

Do you not realize how building off of your game has created large communities of players that are so tightly knit and have bonded together over multiple years?  We've formed new relationships across the globe that likely would have never started ? These communities were built not to cheat you out of money, steal your IP or harmfully violate a license agreement. They bring together people with a common interest and create something together for the community.  This is the spirit and soul of gaming.

 

Don't cut us out, engage us. Let us help you. Give us boundaries, limits and ideas. Can't you see that a collaborative effort will only make your game and future games stronger? There are a lot of extremely talented and unbelievably creative people in the single player modding community. Listen to them.  You have a great opportunity here. Seize it. Don't shut it out. Embrace it.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Hullian111 said:

It was the GTA IV map mod.

 

WHAT DID I TELL YOU?! 

 

After the Red Dead one, this should have been shelved.

I agree. If it has been verified that Take 2 Interactive is legitimate in this incident, it was most likely instigated by the map translation. After the Red Dead map, as Hullian mentioned, it would not be surprising if T2 followed through and cut off OpenIV.

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idk why people are panicking so much

you can still use openIV just by clicking "uninstall later"

and as for distribution, that's as easy as people sending it to eachother through PMs, email, etc

we may be going underground, but the modding community will never die.

but idk

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32 minutes ago, Slushy said:

I see this as a massive shame, but I do wonder. Will GTA VI get modding development or will people just think "Nah, waste of time."?

people will probably figure something out. 

but idk

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13 minutes ago, RogueThunder said:

It isn't R* that has started all this, it is Take 2 that has done it, GTA V's publisher. For now to our best knowledge, R* still supports SP modding, but this is subject to change in their statement (if it's released that is).

 

Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but I have seen nothing on R* wanting to rid of SP mods, just GTA:O mods.

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1 hour ago, UnumProvident101 said:

Since OpenIV has been discontinued I will no longer play LSPDFR on GTA V and will wait until Police 10-13 comes out instead 

 

You're free to do that. But OpenIV still works as of now. And Police 10-13 is so far from being released, you'd be waiting for at least another 2 years. They don't even have the funding yet to get an Alpha going. And they won't until they have a tech demo(which they don't, last I heard). So the game is years away from release. If released at all. I guarantee GTA 6 to be out by the time they have a beta.

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24 minutes ago, Slushy said:

It isn't R* that has started all this, it is Take 2 that has done it, GTA V's publisher. For now to our best knowledge, R* still supports SP modding, but this is subject to change in their statement (if it's released that is).

 

Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but I have seen nothing on R* wanting to rid of SP mods, just GTA:O mods.

See that's also a factor with Take Two and R*. its a he said she said issues with the two company's thoughts on modding. But the other thing is they say no to Open IV but still allow Five M / Reborn servers. like WTF!  

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3 hours ago, Dorian138 said:

This is my personal opinion and I respect your disagreement. Maybe the game would continue to exist but not on the same scale..  

 

ITT: People severely overestimating the size of the modding community. Also, mostly everyone here will still purchase GTA VI/future Rockstar products. You, I, and T2 all know that. 

Any financial losses from this will be negligible. 

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45 minutes ago, Constable Lego said:

 

ITT: People severely overestimating the size of the modding community.

 

Judging how easily the ratings of GTA V on Steam have flipped to negative, I'd say it is not that negligeable...

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Take-Two's actions were not specifically targeting single player mods. Unfortunately OpenIV enables recent malicious mods that allow harassment of players and interfere with the GTA Online experience for everybody. We are working to figure out how we can continue to support the creative community without negatively impacting our players.

 

http://www.pcgamer.com/heres-rockstars-statement-about-take-two-shutting-down-gtas-openiv-modding-tool/

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