OpenIV discontinued | Take Two claims game modding "illegal"

[JClem 42]

Hey guys, I'm really not sure where to put this so my apologies if it's in the wrong section, but I figured this could fall under "Current Events"...

 

I went to open up OpenIV and I saw this. This is the link that it took me to. Has anybody else gotten this? Really hoping it's some sort of prank or something, because I'm going to be devastated if LSPDFR comes to a halt because of this.

http://gtaforums.com/topic/889348-openiv/

 

-JClem

[MistahChange 25]

OpenIV Project shut down.. RIP Modding!!1

 

 

 

[Deactivated Member 0]

I'm a real criminal, now!

OpenIV's topic.

http://gtaforums.com/topic/889348-take-two-vs-modding/

Edited June 14, 2017 by Lundy

[11john11 2,485]

I can't say any words to this, I'm speechless... 

[Deactivated Member 0]

Hopefully the company will decide to  and reconsider their claims.

 

[Original Light 1,098]

Lol, modding isn't illegal. Even R* said so in the past. 

Statement from the OpenIV site:

 

 

We feared that this day would come… And now it’s here.The day, when GTA modding was declared illegal.

GTA modding had long and glorious history.Since GTA III, people have created lots of different mods: from simple texture replacements to impressive full conversions.

And the modding always was a “gray zone” — a battlefield between lawyers and PR…

For almost ten years of OpenIV development, we had tried to play as nice as possible and even more:

• Strictly following of Civil Code of Russia (only reverse engineering for interoperability).
• Only clean-room reverse engineering.
• No distribution of original data and code.
• And absolutely no messing with Online…

 

On June 5th, 2017, we had received an official Cease-and-Desist letter.It clearly says, that with OpenIV we “allow third parties to defeat security features of its software and modify that software in violation Take-Two’s rights“.Yes, this letter is illiterate both technically and grammatically (really, they don’t even bothered with proof-reading the text).Yes, we can go to court and yet again prove that modding is fair use and our actions are legal.Yes, we could. But we decided not to.

Going to court will take at least few months of our time and huge amount of efforts, and, at best, we’ll get absolutely nothing.Spending time just to restore status quo is really unproductive, and all the money in the world can’t compensate the loss of time.

So, we decided to agree with their claims and we’re stopping distribution of OpenIV.

It was a hard decision, but when any modding activity has been declared illegal, we can’t see any possibilities to continue this process,unless top management of Take-Two company makes an official statement about modding, which can be used in court.

Discuss on GTAForums

With many thanks for all modding community for all your fantastic creations,OpenIV team.

So long, and thanks for all the fish.

 

[Hystery 2,183]

Take Two, reconsidering anything? Hah, nice one Lundy.

[Deactivated Member 0]

 

 

[Cyan 4,990]

It's an odd attitude change from Rockstar, as GTA SA and GTA 4 sales were certainty advanced by the modding community.

On our social media platforms and on the forums here alone, we hear a lot of people just buy GTA 5 for modding it. This is a truly depressing turn of events if true, and I can't see myself funding Rockstar Games/Take Two in any way in the future if that's the case.

[TheUniT 693]

Eh, OpenIV isn't related to LSPDFR. I don't think LSPDFR development is endangered right now.

[Levo 46]

I really don't know what to say...

This will really be a stop for the modding community, it's a sad day, really sad day.

[TrentMU 2,435]

Guys.....The  FBI isn't gonna show up at your door step for modding a VIDEO GAME. People are sounding like everyone's gonna get arrested. They'll be more mod installers and everything released, it's not the end of the world.

Edited June 14, 2017 by TrentMU

[Lieutenant Dan 164]

Mate, I'm not uninstalling SHIT, modding is legal whether some big corporation likes it or not.

[Necabo 2]

Well thats it for LSPDFR as well..thats a shame

[culley39 18]

i am not removing anything, i guess i better download what i can before its shut down

[LeGeorgettier 83]

8 minutes ago, TheUniT said:

Eh, OpenIV isn't related to LSPDFR. I don't think LSPDFR development is endangered right now.

 

 If they did that for the OpenIV team I would be surprised the people from Scripthook haven't had any issues... T2 made modding illegal.  The excuse they use is that OpenIV allows people to modify the game. I think Scripthook also apply to theses statements... 

I wouldn't say anything isn't endangered.

Quote from OpenIV : 
On June 5th, 2017, we had received an official Cease-and-Desist letter.It clearly says, that with OpenIV we “allow third parties to defeat security features of its software and modify that software in violation Take-Two’s rights“

Edited June 14, 2017 by LeGeorgettier

[Necabo 2]

6 minutes ago, LeGeorgettier said:

 

 If they did that for the OpenIV team I would be surprised the people from Scripthook haven't had any issues... T2 made modding illegal.  The excuse they use is that OpenIV allows people to modify the game. I think Scripthook also apply to theses statements... 

I wouldn't say anything isn't endangered.

Quote from OpenIV : 
On June 5th, 2017, we had received an official Cease-and-Desist letter.It clearly says, that with OpenIV we “allow third parties to defeat security features of its software and modify that software in violation Take-Two’s rights“

And another quote:

It was a hard decision, but when any modding activity has been declared illegal, we can't see any possibilities to continue this process,

 

That looks liek its illegal to use mods too...

[Sniper296 1,712]

Take Two can take £0 from me from now on.

[Mikofiticus 3,605]

15 minutes ago, TheUniT said:

Eh, OpenIV isn't related to LSPDFR. I don't think LSPDFR development is endangered right now.

I beg to differ. If Take2 has these opinions on just OpenIV, then Scripthook, RagePluginHook, FR, 5m...they're all in danger now.

[LeGeorgettier 83]

You guys can send em your thoughts on the issues : 

https://www.take2games.com/contact/index.php#

 

*Please remain polite I don't think blasphemy would help, just send them your opinion on this and maybe this could grow...

Edited June 14, 2017 by LeGeorgettier