Going to another country won't help you here. The best you can really do is hope for a lucky break for police work, but unfortunately, the chances are very slim.

 

I would recommend the military. Honestly, police officers only take up a fraction of the population - there are always other amazing careers to pursue, and while being in the military doesn't have much social appeal, you're still helping citizens in foreign countries from the oppression of terrorist groups like ISIS. Even just being in the military would make you more likely to be expunged and possibly become a police officer.

 

It's an unfortunate business. But don't give up, find something else you want to pursue.

 

Edit: Also, petitions are really not going to help you here. Ineseri also has no special powers (at least, that's what we all believe...)

Edited January 15, 201511 yr by Zelyth

I will keep trying, I just wish I would never touched a bb gun gosh I was so close. I even signed up for the exam I would have passed it. I had been studying for it since I was 18 and was ready to take 2 year's prior conviction. 

I know it's hard, but you have to come to grips that you most likely won't be getting a job in law enforcement. If I were you, I'd start looking for work elsewhere. As someone who's getting into LE as a career should know, law is law. Rules are rules.

 

Sucks, but that's the way life goes.

A Swede who knows absolutely nothing about what you're like as a person is not going to help a petition. The things that would support a petition for pardon or expungement or relief would most likely be people who know you personally but would not be expected to automatically support you, who can speak to your character, and who themselves are, for lack of a better phrase, upstanding citizens (while a felony conviction need not exclude someone from that group, and the whole point of the petition is that it doesn't, you know what I mean when I say "upstanding citizens"). For instance, an employer might make a good reference.

Incidentally, further searching turns up this, where the ATF says that it's been delegated the authority to act on firearms relief petitions, but Congress has prohibited it from spending any money on reviewing or acting on petitions. So while the gun control laws allow for relief petitions, the government can't actually do anything one way or the other on them (as that takes money, and they can't spend money like that). So in practice, you'd probably have to get expungement or pardon, from the state where you were convicted of the felony.

To be blunt: The chance that you will get an armed job is very small. If the military is in need of personnel, you might be able to enlist. The odds of a relief petition are low (unless there's a major change in the politics of the matter that gets Congress to let the government start giving them); other than that, pardon and expungement are the only possibilities for a non-government job, and you still have an uphill battle convincing people to take on the liability of having a convicted violent felon on their payroll and issued a gun.

What you should do is start looking at broader career fields. That's a good idea anyways (it's not like anyone's guaranteed a police or security job), and plenty of people find such jobs extremely rewarding; it's also one of the best ways to convince people you're a productive member of society, which is something you'd like to establish.

A Swede who knows absolutely nothing about what you're like as a person is not going to help a petition. The things that would support a petition for pardon or expungement or relief would most likely be people who know you personally but would not be expected to automatically support you, who can speak to your character, and who themselves are, for lack of a better phrase, upstanding citizens (while a felony conviction need not exclude someone from that group, and the whole point of the petition is that it doesn't, you know what I mean when I say "upstanding citizens"). For instance, an employer might make a good reference.

Incidentally, further searching turns up this, where the ATF says that it's been delegated the authority to act on firearms relief petitions, but Congress has prohibited it from spending any money on reviewing or acting on petitions. So while the gun control laws allow for relief petitions, the government can't actually do anything one way or the other on them (as that takes money, and they can't spend money like that). So in practice, you'd probably have to get expungement or pardon, from the state where you were convicted of the felony.

To be blunt: The chance that you will get an armed job is very small. If the military is in need of personnel, you might be able to enlist. The odds of a relief petition are low (unless there's a major change in the politics of the matter that gets Congress to let the government start giving them); other than that, pardon and expungement are the only possibilities for a non-government job, and you still have an uphill battle convincing people to take on the liability of having a convicted violent felon on their payroll and issued a gun.

What you should do is start looking at broader career fields. That's a good idea anyways (it's not like anyone's guaranteed a police or security job), and plenty of people find such jobs extremely rewarding; it's also one of the best ways to convince people you're a productive member of society, which is something you'd like to establish.

Yes I guess you are right, however McDonalds won't even accept me. I have a associates degree in paralegal studies. Oh well maybe I will get into politics. Who knows maybe run for mayor or even president. Yeah I could put up a fight with congress to change some of these laws. 

Like cp702 says, the chance is slim. Police departments will see the FBI # (if you were to get it expunged) when doing backgrounds/pre-screen and will most likely ask what it is but you "can" say it's nothing or explain to them what it is.
I've heard stories of some people who became officers simply because they told the truth (and were given the chance) and others got in by sheer luck and had lots of references.

Edited January 15, 201511 yr by toxicalsyn

Like cp702 says, the chance is slim. Police departments will see the FBI # (if you were to get it expunged) when doing backgrounds/pre-screen and will most likely ask what it is but you "can" say it's nothing or explain to them what it is.

I've heard stories of some people who became officers simply because they told the truth (and were given the chance) and others got in by sheer luck and had lots of references.

If the call was in your hands would you give me a chance. I know you can't speak of my character but lets go with the crime itself and how long ago it was and the fact that it wasn't even a live firearm.

What exactly is the point of this thread? I feel like you are just trying to get attention. Do you seriously think that anyone one this forum has the ability to grant you a pardon or start a petition that will get you hired? I'm pretty sure you already started a thread about this several months ago asking if you could be hired as a police officer with a felony and everyone told you no. What is the purpose of starting this all over again? This just looks like an grab for attention or trolling.

Edited January 15, 201511 yr by l3ubba

I gander that the OP just really wants to be a cop. Apply. Thats my advice. Up in Canada, we have things called deferrals. You can apply, and you might get deferred for a couple months or a year, or lifetime. But you will never know if you dont try. Here is some relevant info from the Edmonton Police recruitment website:

 

- Applicants must generally be at least three (3) years clear of any 

detected or undetected criminal activity to be considered for employment as a police 

officer. 

 

-The personal disclosure interview (PDI) is a one-on-one interview conducted by the applicant’s file manager (a sworn member of the EPS assigned to the Selection Unit). During this three-hour interview, the applicant’s application and personal disclosure form will be reviewed and discussed. As with all stages of the process, the applicant’s honesty is vital. We recognize that people may have made poor decisions in the past, so it’s important that candidates be truthful about these decisions and past actions during all of the application process.

 

Basically, try and apply, if you have sincerely regret what you had done, and have taken steps to improve yourself, there is no harm. The internet is never the place to try and build your confidence, as there are a lot of nay sayers. From what I hear, it is harder to become a cop in Canada, our application is 8 steps that take over 5 months to complete. If you are honest, and display integrity, it will get you far. If you get deferred, they will tell you why, and what to work on. If you get a lifetime deferral, at least you know you tried as hard as you could. Unfortunately, this is all Canadian, and I have no knowledge of American law enforcement.

Leaving to another country won't help you at all. First of all generally a government service job requires at least a resident status (you Americans demand citizenship even to be a fare inspector! I was almost hired to MTA in B-more then they discovered that oh hey, you ain't a citizen). Secondly, hiring a person with a criminal record from another country... Why if there are other native applicants?

 

If I were you I'd take a look at neighboring careers, like a defense investigator, or, I don't know, a fugitive recovery agent (I was offered this job but it really doesn't fit me). Many lawyers pay no attention at a criminal record if you can get the job gone. In some ways its really close to the law enforcement... Except being on the other side that is. 

What exactly is the point of this thread? I feel like you are just trying to get attention. Do you seriously think that anyone one this forum has the ability to grant you a pardon or start a petition that will get you hired? I'm pretty sure you already started a thread about this several months ago asking if you could be hired as a police officer with a felony and everyone told you no. What is the purpose of starting this all over again? This just looks like an grab for attention or trolling.

Last I checked, he can post what he wants, if you aint got nothing nice to say, then don't say it at all.

 

What exactly is the point of this thread? I feel like you are just trying to get attention. Do you seriously think that anyone one this forum has the ability to grant you a pardon or start a petition that will get you hired? I'm pretty sure you already started a thread about this several months ago asking if you could be hired as a police officer with a felony and everyone told you no. What is the purpose of starting this all over again? This just looks like an grab for attention or trolling.

Dude what was the of you responding. If you felt that I posted this for attention, why feed into it. Sounds to me like your the one wanting attention. You can't give constructive criticism it is always best to say nothing at all. No one forced you to read or accept my statement.  And as far as trolling is concerned, I am a grown man I am not a teenager or some immature little child I have known time to waste unnecessarily. 

 

Good day 

Don't feel bad man, you can still become a great member of soceity without becoming a cop, try becoming a F.R.A.  

 

I gander that the OP just really wants to be a cop. Apply. Thats my advice. Up in Canada, we have things called deferrals. You can apply, and you might get deferred for a couple months or a year, or lifetime. But you will never know if you dont try. Here is some relevant info from the Edmonton Police recruitment website:

 

- Applicants must generally be at least three (3) years clear of any 

detected or undetected criminal activity to be considered for employment as a police 

officer. 

 

-The personal disclosure interview (PDI) is a one-on-one interview conducted by the applicant’s file manager (a sworn member of the EPS assigned to the Selection Unit). During this three-hour interview, the applicant’s application and personal disclosure form will be reviewed and discussed. As with all stages of the process, the applicant’s honesty is vital. We recognize that people may have made poor decisions in the past, so it’s important that candidates be truthful about these decisions and past actions during all of the application process.

 

Basically, try and apply, if you have sincerely regret what you had done, and have taken steps to improve yourself, there is no harm. The internet is never the place to try and build your confidence, as there are a lot of nay sayers. From what I hear, it is harder to become a cop in Canada, our application is 8 steps that take over 5 months to complete. If you are honest, and display integrity, it will get you far. If you get deferred, they will tell you why, and what to work on. If you get a lifetime deferral, at least you know you tried as hard as you could. Unfortunately, this is all Canadian, and I have no knowledge of American law enforcement.

 

 

OP needs to have at least PR status for Edmonton and Canadian Citizenship anywhere else; with an equivalent to an indictable offence on his record, the OP would have to persaude Immigration that he/she is rehabilitated.

An assault charge is a grounds for inadmissibility under Immigration law unless they can prove otherwise.

 

It's not naysaying when you have to face the reality that one day you will have to answer for your mistakes, and explain. Having gone through the interview, I can tell you the interviewers WILL try and find something to use against you; not only that but when you do the pysch interview, the psychologist will use it against you.

 

 

As others have mentioned (I don't know how recruiting waivers work in the States) but maybe you should look at being in the Military.

I so want to be a cop It was my destiny and they threw it all away for a bb gun.

 

I wasn't fairly convicted either I took a plea bargain out of fear of going to jail. 

 

Your two previous statements still make the implication that you're not willing to take responsibility for your own actions.  You say that you weren't fairly convicted, yet you decided to plead guilty and take a plea bargain.  How is that not a fair conviction?  Why would you place the blame on the law, when your own actions with an imitation firearm determined the charges?  You said that you weren't a juvenile when doing whatever you did (which sounds like you pointed and fired a BB gun at a minor from the little that you've elaborated); should you not have known better?

 

Aside from just having a felony conviction, the details of your felony conviction sound like it would be an even bigger liability to any department that would be looking at your application.  Not many departments would hire a felon over the presumably countless other applicants they receive with perfectly clean records, especially not when they shot a kid with a BB gun.  Why would you be furnished an actual firearm if you could not be trusted with a BB gun?

 

I'd recommend that you consider a different profession.

 

 

 

Edited January 16, 201511 yr by FCV96

Your two previous statements still make the implication that you're not willing to take responsibility for your own actions.  You say that you weren't fairly convicted, yet you decided to plead guilty and take a plea bargain.  How is that not a fair conviction?  Why would you place the blame on the law, when your own actions with an imitation firearm determined the charges? 

Don't be so harsh, mate. I used to present at interrogation of people who had never been to a police office before, and they confessed readily and tried to explain themselves because they thought this way police will understand and forgive them. Of course, when they said "Yes, I did that", nothing else mattered and they were charged immediately. 

 

In a nutshell if a person has no experience in communication with law enforcement this person probably will agree if an officer says "hey boy, you're looking at 20 to 80 or you can just confess and we make it 1 month!". 

If the call was in your hands would you give me a chance. I know you can't speak of my character but lets go with the crime itself and how long ago it was and the fact that it wasn't even a live firearm.

 

An airsoft, pellet, bb gun, paintball gun, etc, are all treated as a firearm. They may not fire bullets, but they do shoot a projectile that can cause serious harm if you're not on a field with proper protective clothing/eye protection. Any weapon of that sort will always be treated as a firearm, especially if it's black without an orange tip.

 

It even says on most, if not all airsoft gun instructions to 'treat the weapon as if it were a real firearm'.

Here in Indiana (Im not from Indianapolis, but I heard on the news) that you can take like 3-6 weeks of a class, and possible get your felony revoked/reduced down, if you pass this class. No, I've never had a arrest or ANYTHING on my record, I just heard this on the news. Maybe look into that with your state.

Edited January 15, 201511 yr by IndianaisMyState

I would say, keep trying. Chances are slim however it is true that a lot of departments are looking for life experience and maturity about what has happened in the past, over a squeaky clean record. Now that being said a felony can complicate the process quite a bit, but keep shopping for agencies.

If I was on the call, no I wouldn't have. More often than not, the officer responding to the call has limited information to go on and likely doesn't know you at all. Now I'm not sure of the exact details of what happened, but if I was there, I'd determine that the kid was struck with the pellet, and you were the perpetrator. Whether you claim it was accidental or not, if the shoe fits you're getting locked up (which it sounds like that's what happened in your case). Much like domestic violence cases - at least in my area - if there's evidence of injury, the accused aggressor is going to jail. No amount of talking is going to change that. The rest is for a judge to decide.

 

And I don't want to sound like a broken record repeating what others have said, but to reiterate: many departments will simply not accept the liability of hiring a convicted felon. Also, I don't know if anyone's touched on this yet: if you as a legal adult couldn't practice muzzle safety with a pellet gun, what department is going to trust you with a real firearm? I suggest you come to terms with the fact that you were the one that perpetrated the action, and not place blame on others or the system for that. You're just going to have to find another field to get into.

But I don't want to. This was my dream. I need to accomplish it I don't care if I am 90 years of age I will keep applying. I had two application from pardons and because I never received Jail time for it I qualify for a pardon.I will give the presidential pardon a shot as well as the governors pardon.