This is just fucked up beyond explanation. My heart goes out to the victims of this (in my opinion) terrorist attack.

3 hours ago, Riley24 said:

I'm not even going to respond to this.

Respond to this: why is Assata Shakur, a convicted cop-killing terrorist fugitive, idolized by BLM?

How can these things still happening in a "1st world" country...

God bless them

On 7/7/2016 at 10:57 PM, Riley24 said:

The narrative that will be pushed is "See? BLM is a hate group and area a bunch of cop killers". But what I think is an even better narrative, is isn't it crazy that we live in a country where its so easy to do something like this? Its sickening. Mentally ill people can choose to do this. This was an organized attack by multiple gunmen, not a deranged protester that wanted to go out guns blazing. There have always been cop killers, and there always will be. BLM does not have membership, anyone that kills cops because they're mad that cops kill people clearly isn't mentally capable of understanding that sick irony. They're not BLM protesters, they're cop killers.. It doesn't reflect the message of the movement, just as when right-wingers kill cops it doesn't reflect their message of small government. Just felt obligated to bring this up, since I know that hatred for BLM is already spurring.

 

On 7/8/2016 at 5:34 AM, KarlsK said:

This is just fucked. Honestly I am not suprised anymore. BLM has practically evolved into a terrorist group by now, and I am glad DPD did their jobs well. I hope that a large scale crackdown on civilians owning hunting weapons or automatic weapons that supports BLM is going to happen soon. I hope that the fuckers who are behind this that didn't get shot by police gets locked up for life or executed.

Also, "Guns don't kill people, other people do, but automatic weapons and hunting rifles help."

 

Edited September 26, 2025Sep 26 by artvera8

15 minutes ago, OfficialTron117 said:

FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT!!! i was so scared the shotter was gonna say hes on Blm's side. We already have a nation where people think cops shoot black people. that last thing we need are black people willing to shoot back.

now wtf girl. you've been watching too much fox news. BLM is not a terrorist group. they are peaceful protestors and your making them sound like ISIS. They are getting shot in the street for no reason. and technically the large scale crackdowns you want so much are against the second amendment without probable cause and supporting a movement that is against people getting shot for no reason is not probable. remember there are white people who support black lives matter to.

Black lives matter is actually losing support as time progresses. They are an arrogant, ignorant organization. 

8 hours ago, HankVoight said:

Gotta love the fact that guns in this mighty fucked up country will still be sold to people tomorrow morning.

Correct. 

4 hours ago, Illusionyary said:

Skip to 2:10, it appears that an officer has approached one of the suspects from behind and then been shot dead. Graphic video of course.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5027266784001/warning-graphic-video-timeline-of-dallas-shooting/?#sp=show-clips
 

That was actually the suspect killing a police officer. Just by the way. That video, when fox played it live, just killed me, I watched a Member of the Thin Blue Line be shot and killed. That affected me more then anything.

1 minute ago, IndianaisMyState said:

That was actually the suspect killing a police officer. Just by the way. That video, when fox played it live, just killed me, I watched a Member of the Thin Blue Line be shot and killed. That affected me more then anything.

That's what I meant. The officer approaches the suspect from behind and then is shot in the back and executed by the guy. Fucking disgusting.

Just now, Illusionyary said:

That's what I meant. The officer approaches the suspect from behind and then is shot in the back and executed by the guy. Fucking disgusting.

Oh, sorry, I misunderstood you, and yes, it is absolutely disgusting. That almost made me cry more than anything. Im glad DPD gave up and took a bot in there and blew him to pieces.

4 hours ago, SoUThPHiLLY20 said:

 

"blm is nothin more then isis in disguise"

You are either joking, or literally have no clue what you are talking about. BLM was formed to fight against violence not for it. Believe me, I have my problems with BLM, but it is absolutely horrific that you would compare a group that peacefully protests most of the time to a radical religious group that has killed thousands, possibly even millions. By saying that you are being part of the problem. You can't call everyone you don't like "ISIS" or a "Terrorist".
You're also forgetting that this person acted as a lone wolf, He wasn't acting as a part of BLM, in fact he was angry with Black Lives Matter protesters.
Stop being so arrogant, and wait for facts before you speak.

Also in your "analysis" of police shooting data, you completely ignore the fact that Black people make up 14% of the population. White people make up 60% of the population. Black people also make up 24% of police shootings. It's completely disproportionate. Why can white folks walk down city streets with Semi-Autos, but when a black person does it, it is automatically a "all-hands on deck, Code 3 response" call?

8 hours ago, Riley24 said:

Also, in the thread about the man who was shot by cops, EVERYONE said "I'll wait for the facts before making. A judgement" but in this thread a ton of people are blaming the protesters, even calling BLM a hate group. Why's that? We don't yet know the race of the suspects, what their motive was, or whether or not they were supporters of BLM. So far, all we know is that they are cop killers just like all of the other cop killers we've seen. What happened to "waiting for the facts"?

 

Something I've always ended up finding very curious, if not amusing in terms of LCPDFR. If it's a cop who's shot, there's calls for massive manhunts and anybody slightly involved gets thrown under the bus as potentional suspect and dirtbag. Meanwhile if there's a wrongful shooting, it's suddenly all: " whoa, hey, let's wait for the facts and calm down guys, huh?"

I acknowledge I've used to be a part of this problem in the past but I've grown out of that ridiculous mentality.

As a reminder, I'd like to say I don't hate cops and acknowledge we completely need them - but I'm also tired of this mentality where people immediatly jump the gun and are practically ready to clear or justify a case when it's someone shot who don't carry a shield.

 

Edited July 8, 20169 yr by Olanov

I haven't really payed attention to this either, but yes, exactly what Olanov said. I don't frequent these types of discussion that often, but it is very true. We're doing the exact same thing as those radical protesters. Blaming a specific group for a problem that is "frequented" by some members. If I said, "A Black kid was shot yesterday." With no context or anything, I'm sure more than 80% of people would assume it was another police shooting. Another mass shooting in a public place, ah man, probably ISIS again. Or you know, maybe just another kid with mental instability. We judge no better than the criminals themselves. We're like a bunch of children. I'm not saying I support these people at all, I support their main goal? Sure, racial equality, the fight against injustice. The way a lot of people take this is completely wrong, though.

Edited July 8, 20169 yr by Lundy

27 minutes ago, Olanov said:

If it's a cop who's shot, there's calls for massive manhunts and anybody slightly involved gets thrown under the bus as potentional suspect and dirtbag. Meanwhile if there's a wrongful shooting, it's suddenly all: " whoa, hey, let's wait for the facts and calm down guys, huh?"

 

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I feel like it's two-sided, which is why we get such a two-sided reaction. I can't think of a single realistic predicament that would prompt someone to shoot a Police officer and be correct in the shooting. When someone shoots a Police officer I can guarantee you that it wasn't justified, but when a Police officer shoots a civilian, there's usually much more to the story. Shooting a Police officer is really never the right solution to a problem, whereas sometimes the only option that a Police officer has, depending on the situation, is to shoot someone.

3 minutes ago, TheDivineHustle said:

I feel like it's two-sided, which is why we get such a two-sided reaction. I can't think of a single realistic predicament that would prompt someone to shoot a Police officer and be correct in the shooting. When someone shoots a Police officer I can guarantee you that it wasn't justified, but when a Police officer shoots a civilian, there's usually much more to the story. Shooting a Police officer is really never the right solution to a problem, whereas sometimes the only option that a Police officer has, depending on the situation, is to shoot someone.

Okay, but now you act as if police officers can't do anything wrong. Cops are people too, they can do the exact same things as anybody else can, it makes no difference. Cop goes on a mental rampage? Nah, just doing his job, right? I could think of a million situations where I'd have to shoot a cop. Same goes for a regular person.

Edited July 8, 20169 yr by Lundy

4 minutes ago, Lundy said:

Okay, but now you act as if police officers can't do anything wrong. Cops are people too, they can do the exact same things as anybody else can, it makes no difference. Cop goes on a mental rampage? Nah, just doing his job, right? I could think of a million situations where I'd have to shoot a cop. Same goes for a regular person.

 

I never said that Police officers can't make mistakes. I said that chances of a Police officer being correct when shooting someone, when compared to a civilian being correct when shooting a Police officer is completely out of proportion. It's never right to shoot and kill a Police officer, but sometimes a Police officer's only choice is to shoot and kill a civilian.

Of course, we can all sit here and speculate different hypothetical scenarios of when the shooting of a Police officer would be justified, but how realistic are those scenarios? How often do they happen, if they've ever happened at all? It's not comparable.

2 minutes ago, TheDivineHustle said:

When someone shoots a Police officer I can guarantee you that it wasn't justified, but when a Police officer shoots a civilian, there's usually much more to the story.

This is exactly what I'm taking about. You're ready to guarantee if someone shoots a cop, it wasn't justified, yet if it's a cop, we oughta slow down: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/10/texas-no-knock-swat-raid

"Five months earlier, 100 miles away, a SWAT officer was shot during a predawn no-knock raid on another house. In that case, too, police threw a flash-bang grenade and tried to enter the residence. Henry "Hank" Magee, according to his attorney, grabbed his gun to protect himself and his pregnant girlfriend. "As soon as the door was kicked in, he shot at the people coming through the door," says his attorney, Dick DeGuerin. With his legally owned semi-automatic .308 rifle, Magee killed one of the officers."

Can you guarantee that this person's act of self defense wasn't justified?

1 minute ago, Olanov said:

This is exactly what I'm taking about. You're ready to guarantee if someone shoots a cop, it wasn't justified, yet if it's a cop, we oughta slow down: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/10/texas-no-knock-swat-raid

"Five months earlier, 100 miles away, a SWAT officer was shot during a predawn no-knock raid on another house. In that case, too, police threw a flash-bang grenade and tried to enter the residence. Henry "Hank" Magee, according to his attorney, grabbed his gun to protect himself and his pregnant girlfriend. "As soon as the door was kicked in, he shot at the people coming through the door," says his attorney, Dick DeGuerin. With his legally owned semi-automatic .308 rifle, Magee killed one of the officers."

Can you guarantee that this person's act of self defense wasn't justified?

 

That's a SWAT raid, which is a totally different side of the sandwich. If I'm asleep and I hear the door kicked in, I'm not going to assume that it's the Police. I'm going to grab my weapon and stand ready to defend my home. That doesn't mean that me shooting the SWAT officers was right, it was simply self-defense because the SWAT team didn't do what they should have done, which is announce that they're the Police. 

I'm talking about a uniformed officer dealing with a civilian out on the street. Totally different cup of tea when it comes to shooting the Police.

1 minute ago, TheDivineHustle said:

That's a SWAT raid, which is a totally different side of the sandwich. If I'm asleep and I hear the door kicked in, I'm not going to assume that it's the Police. I'm going to grab my weapon and stand ready to defend my home. That doesn't mean that me shooting the SWAT officers was right, it was simply self-defense because the SWAT team didn't do what they should have done, which is announce that they're the Police. 

I'm talking about a uniformed officer dealing with a civilian out on the street. Totally different cup of tea when it comes to shooting the Police.

Cop comes up to you standing on the street, he whacks you with a baton and walks off. Cop shoots his gun at cowering civilians. I can go on and on.

1 minute ago, Lundy said:

Cop comes up to you standing on the street, he whacks you with a baton and walks off. Cop shoots his gun at cowering civilians. I can go on and on.

Of course, but how often does that happen when compared to a number of times Police are shot at, and return fire in self defense? I've never heard of anything like this happening. And again, that's a hypothetical situation. The chances of something like that happening once is undeniably low, and the chances of it happening often are virtually non-existant.

But what you literally said was if it's a police officer that got shot, you can guarantee it wasn't justified. You're already jumping to conclusions instead of relying to "there could be more to it". If it's your average Joe out of a uniform that got shot, only then there's more to it. You're automatically saying that the police are in the right.