A few other members and I were having a discussion on this, and it led me to ask the question: Should profanity be banned from the forum?

For those of you a bit weary on the idea, I'd can easily confirm that it is very possible, and very easy to be enforced. In fact, it doesn't even need to be enforced, as it can be "coded" or whatever into the forum to automatically censor words. 

Do you think that profanity should be banned from the forum, or is it not that big of a fucking deal?

I only think some words should be, but not all. Examples would be the N word, the C word, and all of the other words that could be considered Racist and/or sexist.

Edited June 10, 201510 yr by CrossFire

I think this forum is mature enough to be able to handle some profanity, and excess profanity or words with more meaning than just to express frustration or anger are already well-moderated.

I think it's fine as long as it's not used excessively or in direct insult to anyone. I mean, this is a website built around modification for an M rated game(s) where cursing is like a primary language for the people.

Edited June 10, 201510 yr by OfficerLund

Agree with Crossfire, iansonwheels, and Lund!

Fuck yea profanity is fine in the forums! As long as it's not too racist(some racism is fun for the whole family ;) and isn't excessive

Fuck yea profanity is fine in the forums! As long as it's not too racist(some racism is fun for the whole family ;) and isn't excessive

​This is exactly what I'm fucking talking about dude.

 

 

Edited June 10, 201510 yr by OfficerFive0

Fuck yea profanity is fine in the forums! As long as it's not too racist(some racism is fun for the whole family ;) and isn't excessive

​i just KNEW you were goin to reply to this. and i agree. if kids can get tattoos, smoke cigarettes, and have babies then they can take a cuss word here and there!

The following is a verbatim transcript of "Filthy Words" (the George Carlin monologue at issue in the Supreme Court case of FCC v. Pacifica Foundation) prepared by the Federal Communications Commission:

Aruba-du, ruba-tu, ruba-tu. I was thinking about the curse words and the swear words, the cuss words and the words that you can't say, that you're not supposed to say all the time, ['cause] words or people into words want to hear your words. Some guys like to record your words and sell them back to you if they can, (laughter) listen in on the telephone, write down what words you say. A guy who used to be in Washington knew that his phone was tapped, used to answer, Fuck Hoover, yes, go ahead. (laughter) Okay, I was thinking one night about the words you couldn't say on the public, ah, airwaves, um, the ones you definitely wouldn't say, ever, [']cause I heard a lady say bitch one night on television, and it was cool like she was talking about, you know, ah, well, the bitch is the first one to notice that in the litter Johnie right (murmur) Right. And, uh, bastard you can say, and hell and damn so I have to figure out which ones you couldn't and ever and it came down to seven but the list is open to amendment, and in fact, has been changed, uh, by now, ha, a lot of people pointed things out to me, and I noticed some myself. The original seven words were, shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, and tits. Those are the ones that will curve your spine, grow hair on your hands and (laughter) maybe, even bring us, God help us, peace without honor (laughter) um, and a bourbon. (laughter) And now the first thing that we noticed was that word fuck was really repeated in there because the word motherfucker is a compound word and it's another form of the word fuck. (laughter) You want to be a purist it doesn't really -- it can't be on the list of basic words. Also, cocksucker is a compound word and neither half of that is really dirty. The word -- the half sucker that's merely suggestive (laughter) and the word cock is a half-way dirty word, 50% dirty -- dirty half the time, depending on what you mean by it. (laughter) Uh, remember when you first heard it, like in 6th grade, you used to giggle. And the cock crowed three times, heh (laughter) the cock -- three times. It's in the Bible, cock in the Bible. (laughter) And the first time you heard about a cock-fight, remember -- What? Huh? naw. It ain't that, are you stupid? man. (laughter, clapping) It's chickens, you know, (laughter) Then you have the four letter words from the old Anglo-Saxon fame. Uh, shit and fuck. The word shit, uh, is an interesting kind of word in that the middle class has never really accepted it and approved it. They use it like, crazy but it's not really okay. It's still a rude, dirty, old kind of gushy word. (laughter) They don't like that, but they say it, like, they say it like, a lady now in a middle-class home, you'll hear most of the time she says it as an expletive, you know, it's out of her mouth before she knows. She says, Oh shit oh shit, (laughter) oh shit. If she drops something, Oh, the shit hurt the broccoli. Shit. Thank you. (footsteps fading away) (papers ruffling)

Read it! (from audience)

Shit! (laughter) I won the Grammy, man, for the comedy album. Isn't that groovy? (clapping, whistling) (murmur) That's true. Thank you. Thank you man. Yeah. (murmur) (continuous clapping) Thank you man. Thank you. Thank you very much, man. Thank, no, (end of continuous clapping) for that and for the Grammy, man, [']cause (laughter) that's based on people liking it man, yeh, that's ah, that's okay man. (laughter) Let's let that go, man. I got my Grammy. I can let my hair hang down now, shit. (laughter) Ha! So! Now the word shit is okay for the man. At work you can say it like crazy. Mostly figuratively, Get that shit out of here, will ya? I don't want to see that shit anymore. I can't cut that shit, buddy. I've had that shit up to here. I think you're full of shit myself. (laughter) He don't know shit from Shinola. (laughter) you know that? (laughter) Always wondered how the  Shinola people feel about that (laughter) Hi, I'm the new man from Shinola. (laughter) Hi, how are ya? Nice to see ya. (laughter) How are ya? (laughter) Boy, I don't know whether to shit or wind my watch. (laughter) Guess, I'll shit on my watch. (laughter) Oh, the shit is going to hit de fan. (laughter) Built like a brick shit-house. (laughter) Up, he's up shit's creek. (laughter) He's had it. (laughter) He hit me, I'm sorry. (laughter) Hot shit, holy shit, tough shit, eat shit, (laughter) shit-eating grin. Uh, whoever thought of that was ill. (murmur laughter) He had a shit-eating grin! He had a what? (laughter) Shit on a stick. (laughter) Shit in a handbag. I always like that. He ain't worth shit in a handbag. (laughter) Shitty. He acted real shitty. (laughter) You know what I mean? (laughter) I got the money back, but a real shitty attitude. Heh, he had a shit-fit. (laughter) Wow! Shit-fit. Whew! Glad I wasn't there. (murmur, laughter) All the animals -- Bull shit, horse shit, cow shit, rat shit, bat shit. (laughter) First time I heard bat shit, I really came apart. A guy in Oklahoma, Boggs, said it, man. Aw! Bat shit. (laughter) Vera reminded me of that last night, ah (murmur). Snake shit, slicker than owl shit. (laughter) Get your shit together. Shit or get off the pot. (laughter) I got a shit-load full of them. (laughter) I got a shit-pot full, all right. Shit-head, shit-heel, shit in your heart, shit for brains, (laughter) shit-face, heh (laughter) I always try to think how that could have originated; the first guy that said that. Somebody got drunk and fell in some shit, you know. (laughter) Hey, I'm shit-face. (laughter) Shitface, today. (laughter) Anyway, enough of that shit. (laughter) The big one, the word fuck that's the one that hangs them up the most. [']Cause in a lot of cases that's the very act that hangs them up the most. So, it's natural that the word would, uh, have the same effect. It's a great word, fuck, nice word, easy word, cute word, kind of. Easy word to say. One syllable, short u. (laughter) Fuck. (Murmur) You know, it's easy. Starts with a nice soft sound fuh ends with a kuh. Right? (laughter) A little something for everyone. Fuck (laughter) Good word. Kind of a proud word, too. Who are you? I am FUCK. (laughter) FUCK OF THE MOUNTAIN. (laughter) Tune in again next week to FUCK OF THE MOUNTAIN. (laughter) It's an interesting word too, [']cause it's got a double kind of a life -- personality -- dual, you know, whatever the right phrase is. It leads a double life, the word fuck. First of all, it means, sometimes, most of the time, fuck. What does it mean? It means to make love. Right? We're going to make love, yeh, we're going to fuck, yeh, we're going to fuck, yeh, we're going to make love. (laughter) we're really going to fuck, yeah, we're going to make love. Right? And it also means the beginning of life, it's the act that begins life, so there's the word hanging around with words like love, and life, and yet on the other hand, it's also a word that we really use to hurt each other with, man. It's a heavy. It's one that you have toward the end of the argument. (laughter) Right? (laughter) You finally can't make out. Oh, fuck you man. I said, fuck you. (laughter, murmur) Stupid fuck. (laughter) Fuck you and everybody that looks like you. (laughter) man. It would be nice to change the movies that we already have and substitute the word fuck for the word kill, wherever we could, and some of those movie cliches would change a little bit. Madfuckers still on the loose. Stop me before I fuck again. Fuck the ump, fuck the ump, fuck the ump, fuck the ump, fuck the ump. Easy on the clutch Bill, you'll fuck that engine again. (laughter) The other shit one was, I don't give a shit. Like it's worth something, you know? (laughter) I don't give a shit. Hey, well, I don't take no shit, (laughter) you know what I mean? You know why I don't take no shit? (laughter) [']Cause I don't give a shit. (laughter) If I give a shit, I would have to pack shit. (laughter) But I don't pack no shit cause I don't give a shit. (laughter) You wouldn't shit me, would you? (laughter) That's a joke when you're a kid with a worm looking out the bird's ass. You wouldn't shit me, would you? (laughter) It's an eight-year-old joke but a good one. (laughter) The additions to the list. I found three more words that had to be put on the list of words you could never say on television, and they were fart, turd and twat, those three. (laughter) Fart, we talked about, it's harmless It's like tits, it's a cutie word, no problem. Turd, you can't say but who wants to, you know? (laughter) The subject never comes up on the panel so I'm not worried about that one. Now the word twat is an interesting word. Twat! Yeh, right in the twat. (laughter) Twat is an interesting word because it's the only one I know of, the only slang word applying to the, a part of the sexual anatomy that doesn't have another meaning to it. Like, ah, snatch, box and pussy all have other meanings, man. Even in a Walt Disney movie, you can say, We're going to snatch that pussy and put him in a box and bring him on the airplane. (murmur, laughter) Everybody loves it. The twat stands alone, man, as it should. And two-way words. Ah, ass is okay providing you're riding into town on a religious feast day. (laughter) You can't say, up your ass. (laughter) You can say, stuff it! (murmur) There are certain things you can say its weird but you can just come so close. Before I cut, I, uh, want to, ah, thank you for listening to my words, man, fellow, uh space travelers. Thank you man for tonight and thank you also. (clapping whistling)

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Edited June 10, 201510 yr by OfficerFive0

A few other members and I were having a discussion on this, and it led me to ask the question: Should profanity be banned from the forum?

For those of you a bit weary on the idea, I'd can easily confirm that it is very possible, and very easy to be enforced. In fact, it doesn't even need to be enforced, as it can be "coded" or whatever into the forum to automatically censor words. 

Do you think that profanity should be banned from the forum, or is it not that big of a fucking deal?

​No been fine the way its been the past 4-5 year's 

we are all adults here and should be mature enough to handle it

​we are all adults here and should be mature enough to handle it

​Adults? Eh... most of us. I can't really say the same for others.

No. Sometimes cussing is an extremely good way to make a point or making a statement. Cursing just for the heck of it isn't allowed however. Cussing in a way that is abusive is not allowed either. Anyone should be able to feel welcome and have discussions around most subjects. Personal attacks is something we've never allowed, and never will allow. Banning curse words does seem like a waste of time however. Thanks for your input though :)

Profanity is fine in moderation, in my opinion - sometimes it can be used as a spicy sentence enhancer.

Take the sentence "You've gotta be kidding" - simple phrase, really. Something you'd hear when someone says something outlandish, maybe? Doesn't carry much weight, however.

Now take the sentence "you've gotta be fucking kidding" - the simple inclusion of the F-bomb adds a bit of dramatic weight to the sentence, implying that something just happened which has the person saying it annoyed or scared.

However, it needs to be used in moderation - quantity is not better than quality. I'd post an example here but I think ineseri would have issue with me cranking the profanity levels up past eleven.

Profanity is fine in moderation, in my opinion - sometimes it can be used as a spicy sentence enhancer.

Take the sentence "You've gotta be kidding" - simple phrase, really. Something you'd hear when someone says something outlandish, maybe? Doesn't carry much weight, however.

Now take the sentence "you've gotta be fucking kidding" - the simple inclusion of the F-bomb adds a bit of dramatic weight to the sentence, implying that something just happened which has the person saying it annoyed or scared.

However, it needs to be used in moderation - quantity is not better than quality. I'd post an example here but I think ineseri would have issue with me cranking the profanity levels up past eleven.

Very interesting point you've made. On a few other forums, which are owned by big gaming businesses and such, profanity is banned, politics are banned, any talk of religion or enlightenment or Scientology is banned, and personal attacks result in a month suspension for the first offense. Very strict forums. 

Completely banning profanity on a forum based around an MA15+ (or in the case of V, R18+) video game full of profanity and violence literally makes no sense to me. Our current rules are fine in my eyes.

It can't be easily enforced - at least not through software. There's so many ways of getting past word filters. (have a look at club penguin trolling videos for some great examples)

It can't be easily enforced - at least not through software. There's so many ways of getting past word filters. (have a look at club penguin trolling videos for some great examples)

I'm not saying that you all are incapable of anything, I don't really care if profanity is banned either way :P. I just wanted to bring it up because a lot of people have brought it up in the past while we were chatting, and I guess they weren't willing to make the topic themselves. Something another forum did was word filtering. They'd type in the curse word and it would change the word and notify a moderator and you'd be suspended for a month the next day. Harsh consequences seemed to keep it enforced, and if it happened again they were IP banned from the website or something. It also seemed like they had every variation or implied version of the word filtered as well. That forum was on lockdown though I must say, lol. 

Im not arguing or anything, just bringing a discussion to the table but it seems the decision was made that the final answer is no. 

 

I'm not trying to fight in really asking more than anything. 

Our current approach to the issue is as sensible as can be.  We tread a fine line between some degree of freedom while still being a reasonably appropriate place.  You have to understand that the vast majority of members of this community are younger than the age ratings on the games it deals with.  In most modern societies, it is considered inappropriate for younger people to be exposed to excessive amounts of profanity and the same is true here.  At the same time, we get that using profanity to emphasise a point or to convey a strong feeling is an age-old practice and we try to allow some leeway as such.

At the end of the day, with a community of this size, we have a responsibility to do our best to cater to everyone.  I'd like to hope that most parents would be fine with their kids using our site, and I'd also hope that most adults don't feel as though the site is exclusively for kids.

tl;dr: Fuck no!

As long as it's not aimed at anyone, companies are fine—fucking R*, breaking mods again—I don't see why anyone on a forum based around games rated 18, one including graphic torture, would have a problem with some fucking words.

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Edited June 10, 201510 yr by Sniper296
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