http://gamespace.daemon-tools.cc/eng/news/the-players-have-no-rights-to-create-mods-in-gta-v-on-pc-2015-05-05 That's a link to the article http://www.rockstargames.com/eula That's a link to the EULA, where in the 3rd paragraph it says: "You agree not to: reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble, display, perform, prepare derivative works based on, or otherwise modify the Software, in whole or in part" If this is the case then this is a sad day.

I'm fairly certain this has always been the case, it hasn't been changed. It is pretty standard for software developers to say that in an EULA. 

Indeed, looking at the EULA page you linked it is clearly stated on top of the page "Last revised October 1, 2013" (as Cyan pointed out RIGHT as I made this edit) 

Edited May 5, 201511 yr by ineseri

Their EULA hasn't been updated since 'Last revised October 1, 2013' and has most likely always permitted modding. It's legal stuff to cover their backs.

has most likely always permitted modding.

​Technically, it's always forbidden it.

You agree not to:

(-snip-)

reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble, display, perform, prepare derivative works based on, or otherwise modify the Software, in whole or in part;

Edited May 5, 201511 yr by EvilJackCarver
Forgot the legal disclaimer: IANAL, TINLA

This was definitely true in IV as well. For that matter, it's standard in just about all EULAs. I'm fairly sure no one at Rockstar even thought twice about this, because it's standard software EULA boilerplate.

I believe above all else it's to prevent selling and thereby profiting from a modified GTA. What you do with your copy offline is your business. Disconnect your Ethernet cable before launching the game if you're worried.

German law couldn't care less about EULAs :P

This was definitely true in IV as well

​Yup, I've just checked my IV manual and it says the same things, word for word.

Hell, even a game like ArmA has exactly the same terms in its EULA and modding is the backbone of the serie.

Edited May 6, 201511 yr by EightBall

 

Forgot the legal disclaimer: IANAL, TINLA

 

​I have so unmature humor. 

Why'd I even laugh at that.

Ain't nobody gonna stop modding in GTA. Rockstar should piss off.

Because everybody always reads the legal documents in full before playing, right?

Ain't nobody gonna stop modding in GTA. Rockstar should piss off.

​It's Rockstar's product and they are not going to piss off because you tell them so.

It's pretty sad that you think you have more right to do things with their product then they do.

Edited May 6, 201511 yr by Chef89

​It's Rockstar's product and they are not going to piss off because you tell them so.

It's pretty sad that you think you have more right to do things with their product then they do.

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​It's Rockstar's product and they are not going to piss off because you tell them so.

It's pretty sad that you think you have more right to do things with their product then they do.

​We bought it we should be able to do what we want with it now modding GTA V online  thats a different story 

​We bought it we should be able to do what we want with it now modding GTA V online  thats a different story 

​That's not actually true. We don't buy the game, we don't own the contents of the game, we own a license to use the game. 

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​We bought it we should be able to do what we want with it now modding GTA V online  thats a different story 

​Actually with your $60 you bought a license to play the game, not one to modify it.

You've bought the game, meaning you've agreed with the EULA. If you didn't like some of its terms you should have said it before, now it's too late.

EDIT : sniped

Edited May 6, 201511 yr by EightBall

​It's Rockstar's product and they are not going to piss off because you tell them so.

It's pretty sad that you think you have more right to do things with their product then they do.

​Well here's my stance on it.... It's like Coca Cola banning you from their products simply because you poured it from the bottle and into a glass (cup). Imagine them getting angry at you for not drinking directly from the bottle. I'm sure you'd be confused by their arrogance.

Or maybe Mercedes (just an example) decides to take their car back from you because you changed the radio or put in a steering wheel cover, and then they ban you from their vehicles. All this "Buy a License" instead of "Buy a Game" nonsense needs to be boycotted by the gaming community.

​Well here's my stance on it.... It's like Coca Cola banning you from their products simply because you poured it from the bottle and into a glass (cup). Imagine them getting angry at you for not drinking directly from the bottle. I'm sure you'd be confused by their arrogance.

Or maybe Mercedes (just an example) decides to take their car back from you because you changed the radio or put in a steering wheel cover, and then they ban you from their vehicles. All this "Buy a License" instead of "Buy a Game" nonsense needs to be boycotted by the gaming community.

​Except neither Coca Cola nor Mercedes have some terms in their contracts forbidding you to do something like that.

Just like nothing prevent you from using your boxed version of GTA to stabilise a wobbly table. That's totally fine !

It really isn't about "my stance" or "your stance", that's the way it is and we've agreed with it when buying the game.

 

Edited May 6, 201511 yr by EightBall
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​Except neither Coca Cola nor Mercedes have some terms in their contracts forbidding you to do something like that.

Just like nothing prevent you from using your boxed version of GTA to stabilise or rocking table. That's totally fine !

 

​While this is true, if we continue to accept this treatment, then other companies will catch on and eventually Coca Cola and Mercedes will be doing things like this. Therefore, I'll gladly start the boycotting of any product/company with these terms. Looks like I'll be sticking to companies such as SCS. Hopefully others will join. This doesn't mean getting rid of anything you've already purchased. Just the refusal to buy any more... You've got to vote with your Dollars (or Euros/Pounds).

I think we should stand against this too, unfortunately this became the norm very quickly.

But keep in mind this thread is based on a lie/misinformation, R* did not change their EULA recently and that part concerning reverse engineering, etc was already there in GTA IV.

Also R* doesn't ban people for using mods in SP or most of us here would already have been banned.

Edited May 6, 201511 yr by EightBall

​Except neither Coca Cola nor Mercedes have some terms in their contracts forbidding you to do something like that.

Just like nothing prevent you from using your boxed version of GTA to stabilise a wobbly table. That's totally fine !

It really isn't about "my stance" or "your stance", that's the way it is and we've agreed with it when buying the game.

 

​Except not necessarily. EULAs are of questionable validity (because there is no ability to negotiate terms, parties with grossly unequal bargaining power, and a lot of legalese the average person may not understand), and whether they mean anything at all depends on the jurisdiction. Rockstar does not have some inherent right to prevent reverse-engineering on "their game;" that's not one of the things protected by copyright, and their only grounds are trade secrets law (where reverse-engineering from a publicly sold product is often considered a legitimate way to learn the secret, although it's jurisdiction-dependent). That's why Rockstar tries to force a contract on you -- they don't have the right to prevent reverse-engineering, so they have to get you to agree not to do it. But contracts generally depend on both sides being able to negotiate, and ultimately it's generally a requirement that both sides agree on the basic meaning of the contract. Signing it means that can be assumed in most cases, but that's not so clear for EULAs.