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the openiv case to "hackers" is fraudulent imo , i used to mod online and got perm banned for it but never not once did i use openiv to mod online .. im more surprised they havent gone after 5reborn for creating online servers in which no microtransactions can be had

 

99.98% of openiv users are using it for modding offline like as in this community for making and using wonderful police related content..

and not that im a popular content creator or anything but this has stopped me from wanting to create more content, so its only hurting us legit modders

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49 minutes ago, MoonShine said:

I never mod my game, however I ain't uninstalling shit, not worried about the Canadian FBI coming to my door.

 

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Hold on someone's pounding at the door brb...

 

Sir, install ASI Loader and OpenVI.asi.  SIR, DON'T MAKE ME RECRUIT MY NIECE TO DRAW UP A POORLY WORDED LEGAL DOCUMENT!

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5 hours ago, rmckinstry said:

As of now the recent reviews are at 14% and the overall reviews are at 68%. If you haven't already go and leave a negative review on the steam store page to help the cause. 

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I don't have GTA V on Steam unfortunately so I can't write a negative review, but I made sure to do my part for GTA IV. After all, this game is concerned by this as well. Even though it pains me to give a negative review to GTA IV because it was still a good game.

 

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Max Payne 3 is getting this too, even L.A. Noire is feeling some of it as well; basically anything with a R* label is getting a ton of negative reviews over this whole thing. Max Payne 3 doesn't surprise me because OIV supported modding that as well but I was really surprised at the others

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Why doesn't somone just crack OpenIV, make a few edits to the GUI, rename it something else, and distribute it? Fuck the devs. If they won't grow a spine and stand up to T2, someone with some computer knowledge should. Why is everyone pussyfooting around this?

 

Also, what's the deal with scripthook and scripthookV? That get abandoned too? 

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3 minutes ago, Izhevsk said:

Also, what's the deal with scripthook and scripthookV? That get abandoned too? 

ScriptHookV is still waiting for an update; it usually takes a while after a R* update for a ScriptHookV update anyway, so it's pretty much hurry up and wait at this point. Unless stated otherwise by Alexander Blade, that's the situation regarding that. As far as ScriptHookV.net, I would assume it's the same thing regarding that.

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Well I dunno what the fuck is up, I finally got RPH to revert properly, so now its back to version 1032. But When starting I got a fatal scripthook error. What the hell? Scripthook already supports 1032

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On 2017-6-18 at 7:06 AM, JClem said:

A better legal argument would be that T2 is infringing upon education (however informal it may be), because personally I knew practically nothing about policing when I started playing LSPDFR. After playing for roughly a year and a half, I know how a ton of stuff works; MDTs, ALPRs, I can identify lightbars at a glance for the most part, I've learned a ton about flash patterns and how important they are, a bit of report writing, tactics, procedures, I've learned ten codes, as well as just code itself (code 2, code 3, code 6, etc.) Plus, I've learned a bit of computer handiwork on the side from editing things like Custom Backup and other various meta files and things like that.

 

Apart from the computer stuff, what I've learned through playing and watching LSPDFR on YouTube will make my life that much easier in the future when I become a cop. I had plans to introduce LSPDFR into my campus' Criminal Justice curriculum for future officers to mess around with, and T2 is stifling that to the best of their ability because their leadership wants to use $100 bills for toilet paper. And that, more than anything else about this whole debacle, is what really pisses me off.

 

Thanks for the laugh.

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6 hours ago, Slushy said:

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Since when did GTA IV get hit with the negative reviews as well? Take 2 must do something soon, they can't let this continue.

 

To be fair, unless their sales are hit, I doubt they care that much.

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Why can't we upload OpenIV here? Who gives a shit what the creators say. They abandoned it and caved in to pressure from a bullshit C&D order based on lies. They also designed it so that we have no control over it, forced updates. I say fuck em. They quit, so it's fair game. What are you all afraid of? Its freeware. You can do what you want with it.

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1 hour ago, Izhevsk said:

Why can't we upload OpenIV here? Who gives a shit what the creators say. They abandoned it and caved in to pressure from a bullshit C&D order based on lies. They also designed it so that we have no control over it, forced updates. I say fuck em. They quit, so it's fair game. What are you all afraid of? Its freeware. You can do what you want with it.

You think many of use are not thinking what your thinking, at this moment of time i'm pretty sure we are but we cannot result in ripping, stealing, claiming, our fellow modellers work just because of greed and fun, its OIV decision to do what they did and i'm sure others are working on a system to be able to mod the GTA franchise, as for now we have to wait and see what happens take a book or watch a movie just don't result to stealing as this is what T2, Rock* or whoever the fugg they are would want. We are all mad and angry but unfortunatelty as much as i agree with you 100% that is not the right way, there's one thing the modding community taught every one and that is to never steal rip or claim work no matter the consequences.

 

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33 minutes ago, victoriousV11 said:

You think many of use are not thinking what your thinking, at this moment of time i'm pretty sure we are but we cannot result in ripping, stealing, claiming, our fellow modellers work just because of greed and fun, its OIV decision to do what they did and i'm sure others are working on a system to be able to mod the GTA franchise, as for now we have to wait and see what happens take a book or watch a movie just don't result to stealing as this is what T2, Rock* or whoever the fugg they are would want. We are all mad and angry but unfortunatelty as much as i agree with you 100% that is not the right way, there's one thing the modding community taught every one and that is to never steal rip or claim work no matter the consequences.

 

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Thats not true at all. And its certainly not stealing, when the creators have thrown up their hands and quit.

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So recently, a couple of Online mods were also shut down: http://www.pcgamer.com/gta-online-cheating-tool-force-hax-shut-down-by-take-two-interactive/

 

Both basically have the same message now: "After discussions with Take-Two Interactive, effective immediately we are ceasing all maintenance, development and distribution of the [name] cheat menu services. We will be donating our proceeds to a charity designated by Take-Two [this is slightly different]. We apologize for any and all problems [name] has caused to the Grand Theft Auto Online community."

 

Weird that they were specifically asked to apologize and OpenIV wasn't. I thought "OpenIV enables recent malicious mods that allow harassment of players and interfere with the GTA Online experience for everybody"? Why shouldn't they apologize for all the grief they caused in Online?

 

Oh, right, you were lying about that.

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8 hours ago, Izhevsk said:

Why can't we upload OpenIV here? Who gives a shit what the creators say. They abandoned it and caved in to pressure from a bullshit C&D order based on lies. They also designed it so that we have no control over it, forced updates. I say fuck em. They quit, so it's fair game. What are you all afraid of? Its freeware. You can do what you want with it.

 

"Freeware" does not mean "you can do what you want with it." "Freeware" means "it is distributed for zero dollars." You might be thinking of "free software" under the FSF definition (also known as "open source" or "FOSS"), although that still doesn't mean "you can do what you want with it" (while the four freedoms do include the freedom to run, modify, redistribute, and redistribute modified copies, copyleft free software licenses like the GPL forbid you from distributing your modifications unless you distribute them under a GPL-compatible free software license). In any event, OpenIV is certainly not FOSS. Its license is fairly restrictive, in fact; you may not reverse-engineer, modify, or redistribute for a fee. Before you say "but I'm uploading it for free," nowhere does the license say you may redistribute it if you don't charge money. It says Russian law governs all situations not explicitly mentioned, and I suspect Russian law doesn't allow copying and redistributing a copyrighted work without permission from the copyright owner regardless of whether you're charging a fee.

 

You say it's been abandoned as if that's relevant. It's not. Copyright doesn't depend on the author continuing to update the copyrighted work; for most copyrighted works (like books and films), the expectation is that the author will not continue to update them. Nor does copyright depend on the author authorizing anyone to copy the work. Copyright means that no one but the owner can authorize copies of the work (with possible exceptions in special cases depending on national legislation, but I would be extremely surprised if any exceptions applied here). If the owner doesn't authorize any copying, no one may copy the work. An author has the right to say "I only want 100 copies of this in existence, so I'll make 100 copies and then forbid anyone from making any more."

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