Suggestion:

 

Prisoner transport -> Transport ped from A to B, with possibility of an assault

Cover -> Cover bank/MVP/prisoner vehicle in their route. Same possibility of above.

 

I can image you transporting someone when suddently a big truck smash your side door, and other cars appear opening fire against you like in movies :P

Hi. My lcpdfr script crashes when i load and  i really wanna use the callouts

I love this callouts script! Very lightweight, dynamic, real fun. Love the indecent exposures lol. Only problem I see with this though is the cardiac arrest and the fuel thefts. For realism purposes, I don't see what a police officer would be doing in a cardiac arrest callout, the guy ate too much burger shot and is now dying of a heart attack, no criminal activity, so the paramedics should be able to deal with this themselves. Unless if there was someone preventing them from doing their job or something, especially in a huge city like LC which is a parallel to NY, Police would be stretched thin as they are, don't think they'd really ask them situations with such minimal risk. Also, the fuel theft, I doubt it happens anymore mainly because here in LA where I live and possibly every other huge city, they just have the gas pumps that you would have to go to the cashier and pay the money and once it is in the cash register, the system allows that much fuel in that gas pump, so it would be impossible to steal fuel unless they pulled a robbery and made the cashier put his own money in the register. Other than those 2 problems, the script is great, would love to see a bank robbery or maybe a fuel depot stick up. Disgruntled persons shooting up buildings, or maybe a manhunt callout. Hopefully that comes to play

I love this callouts script! Very lightweight, dynamic, real fun. Love the indecent exposures lol. Only problem I see with this though is the cardiac arrest and the fuel thefts. For realism purposes, I don't see what a police officer would be doing in a cardiac arrest callout, the guy ate too much burger shot and is now dying of a heart attack, no criminal activity, so the paramedics should be able to deal with this themselves.

 

Police is called to CPR to provide manpower and have somebody arrive on scene as early as possible. Sometimes a police car needs just 3 minutes to be on scene while the ambulance might need 7 or more minutes. If you wait for the ambulance to arrive, the patient has a 30% chance of survival while it is 70% when a police car arrives after 3 minutes.

If you have a confirmed cardiac arrest call, dispatch might send the fire department, ambulances and the police (at least here in germany).

The more people on scene the better, if you give CPR to somebody, you're pretty much done after 15 minutes, it is pretty intense. So imagine you want to transport somebody to a hospital while continuing CPR - you need as many people as you can get to share the work.

So in Germany (or at least in Munich), especially at places with a lot of people (railway stations, airports, ...) there are a lot of forces called to an "unknown level of conciousness/cardiac arrest" call: One or two ambulances, emergency physician, fire trucks, local police and federal police to have somebody on scene as fast as possible.

So to me it makes sense, but I don't know exactly how the US system works, seems like you've got a better survival rate for cardiac arrests.

In Baltimore I saw a huge engine blocking the alleyway just because some old lady had troubles breathing. And there were 2 traffic units and an ambulance. 

 

In Russia however you're lucky if EMS arrives on time :D

In NYC all cardiac cases are transmitted not only via Zone channels but also via SOD (Special Ops Division) citywide channel for ESU/major incidents. You can search it on broadcastify and hear it yourself since it's quite common event.

That's actually very strange, maybe because NYPD is extremely staffed that they can spare the firepower. I've seen this multiple times here in Los Angeles, where only a paramedic, and at the most, a fireteam is dispatched to location to deal with most cases. I remember once being in a gathering with my mom's friends, a kid about 6 was allergic to one of the food and was swelling up and couldn't breathe, they only dispatched a paramedics team and it seems like the 4 guys on scene had everything on control and two of them was maintaining crowd control while everyone else was working on the kid and trying to put him inside. Ofcourse after they stabilized him in the first 10 minutes, you don't need to do CPR while the ambulance is moving, if there's a huge crowd, I saw them just put the person inside and do their thing while the vehicle was parked and someone outside was dealing with crowd control, I assumed paramedics have light crowd control training in LA. Besides, you don't need much man power here, someone ate too much fatty foods and got themselves a heart attack, no one will bat an eye, it's not some racial tension where someone got shot for wearing the wrong colors or being the wrong colors that the crowd would go crazy. I just don't see the point of an officer on scene. How many people does it take to give a fat dude CPR? "I think I should give him a little CPR after you're done lol" But enough of that.

 

Also one more thing I wanted to share was if it was if it's possible make a hostage negotiation bit in. It seems the suicide negotiation is already dealt with, maybe you could take that system and make a scenario where a guy went in an establishment or something and decided to stick up the place and now cops are all over the place trying to get the guy to release hostages, if it goes wrong he hangs up the phone or something and you gotta send people in. Would be cool to see lol. I actually am trying to do this myself but I'm still new to API coding

That's actually very strange, maybe because NYPD is extremely staffed that they can spare the firepower. I've seen this multiple times here in Los Angeles, where only a paramedic, and at the most, a fireteam is dispatched to location to deal with most cases. I remember once being in a gathering with my mom's friends, a kid about 6 was allergic to one of the food and was swelling up and couldn't breathe, they only dispatched a paramedics team and it seems like the 4 guys on scene had everything on control and two of them was maintaining crowd control while everyone else was working on the kid and trying to put him inside. Ofcourse after they stabilized him in the first 10 minutes, you don't need to do CPR while the ambulance is moving, if there's a huge crowd, I saw them just put the person inside and do their thing while the vehicle was parked and someone outside was dealing with crowd control, I assumed paramedics have light crowd control training in LA. Besides, you don't need much man power here, someone ate too much fatty foods and got themselves a heart attack, no one will bat an eye, it's not some racial tension where someone got shot for wearing the wrong colors or being the wrong colors that the crowd would go crazy. I just don't see the point of an officer on scene. How many people does it take to give a fat dude CPR? "I think I should give him a little CPR after you're done lol" But enough of that.

 

Well, the first situation you describe doesn't need much manpower. Allergic situations aren't hard to handle if the patient isn't in anaphylactic shock at the time. You just give adrenaline or cortisol and normally the patient should stabilize immediately. For patients in shock you just give them some O2 additionally and monitor their blood pressure. The airway should be free again in no time. So I'm not entirely sure why you mentioned that situation - no additional forces would be needed here, except the kid was in cardiac arrest (children are far easier to rescusitate though because their problems are mostly airway related and no heart tissue is damaged).

 

What I was refering to was a cardiac arrest call where it is pretty sure that a patient is in cardiac arrest. You send everybody there to make sure somebody arrives as soon as possible. Every minute a patient stays in cardiac arrest without getting CPR, his chances of survival drop by 10%. Also something I forgot to mention: If you find somebody lying in a park or somewhere on a public place in cardiac arrest and the patient is declared dead, it is an unclear cause of death so you need police anyway.

 

And I want to clarify something you mentionned about heart attacks. If somebody suffers from a heart attack he doesn't immediately drop dead. A NSTEMI (non-ST-elevation-myocardial-infarction) can take up to 72 hours to really become life-endangering. An acute STEMI (ST-elevation-myocardial-infarction) needs treatment within 24 hours. So patients who immediately feel symptoms and get treatment right away get away with minor tissue damage. I had a patient though who experienced chest pain the whole day until it got so bad at night (callout at 10PM) that she called an ambulance. She had already difficulty breathing because her heart activity was pretty weak and she developed pulmonary edema. I was just a paramedic at that time and not a doctor but our emergency physician said that, had we arrived one hour later she might have gone into cardiac arrest by then. So the danger of a heart attack definitely depends on the time of treatment.

And even if somebody has a MCI because of fatty food he/she deserves to be treated properly - everybody should "bat an eye". You'd want treatment too, if it were you. If you were guilty of causing an MVA and you're trapped inside your car, I'm sure you'd want paramedics to help you too, not only the other patient you insured. So keep the ignorant comments for yourself.

Another clarification: obese patients are a lot harder to rescusitate because you need to push deeper to give proper cardial massage. For every CPR call, a minimum of 6 people are on scene (in Germany/Austria mostly 2 ambulances + emergency physician vehicle with 1 paramedic and 1 doctor).

No need to go keyboard warrior mode here, we are all adults here and no one is insulting anyone to go on so defensive and also keep in mind, this is the internet, rough and tough acts don't fool anyone. I'm just discussing this, if I'm doing so in a way that seems aggressive to you then I can say I'm sorry but I don't mean to, you might want to read the comment and understand fully what I'm trying to say before jumping to conclusion. Yes everyone SHOULD bat an eye in a situation like this and people suffering of such a heart problem should definitely be treated with full care, no argument, and how you even took what I said in a different way is beyond me, but in real life, people are more practical and busy with their own affairs that if someone is dying of a heart attack, the best you could hope for is that someone calls 911, especially in a city like New York City where everyone is way too busy. 

 

The Police is not there to be doctors or mechanics when your car breaks down, or to unlock your car when you get locked out, they are there to deal with criminal activity and crowd control. I understand there's alot more responsibilities for them today in the 21st century, but mainly, that's their priority.

 

The average person does not know how to deal with a situation like this, almost everybody in the general population knows that, and that's why they just steer clear of the situation and let the professionals handle it to begin with, that is why most of the time, you don't see the police in situations like this in LA, now as I remember, LAPD has about 9,000 officers while NYPD has about 40,000, they obviously can spare more firepower than LA, which I understand is the second biggest city in the US, 9,000 officers sure have a lot of ground to cover and 40,000 is probably not enough to cover all of New York City which is the largest city in the US. Most people would just watch from a distance for 5 minutes when the authorities arrive and just leave to their own daily schedules. It is the paramedic's job to take care of the bodily harmed, not the police, they enforce the law, and if needed, control the crowd. Now I'm just going on speculation here, as well as what I hear from people, the news and ofcourse, observation, and I don't mind being corrected, but i don't appreciate hostilities in the process either. I just think that to have a police officer in every minor situation like that is thinning out resources, especially in cities like New York and Los Angeles where criminal and gang related activities are a frequency, the main reason for police. Clearly I was wrong and I learned that NYPD does everything, but again, no need for hostilities

 

P.S: Also, I have never even once even thought that a person could die instantly from a cardiac arrest, I don't know where you got that part from, but as I said, you should read the post and understand it before you jump to conclusions.

Edited December 1, 201411 yr by shammy007

P.S: Also, I have never even once even thought that a person could die instantly from a cardiac arrest, I don't know where you got that part from, but as I said, you should read the post and understand it before you jump to conclusions.

 

Maybe I misunderstood your "heart attack statement" then.

 

A person does instead die instantly from a cardiac arrest. A patient in cardiac arrest is considered clinically dead. The patient may be rescusitated, but after 10 minutes of asystoly, patients are normally declared dead.

So maybe you were just using the wrong terms that led to my misunderstanding of your post - no bad blood on my side. But you have to differentiate between cardiac arrest and heart attack.

 

 

Besides, you don't need much man power here, someone ate too much fatty foods and got themselves a heart attack, no one will bat an eye

 

This statement only made me think you wouldn't "bat an eye" if somebody had a heart attack. Trust me, I've seen far too many people who don't care.

 

But I think we went pretty offtopic already, so back to topic.

Maybe we all can just settle to that all the departments in different countries work differently. In Germany they help medics, in Russia they don't arrive at calls, in America we see it all. But this plugin is about LCPD which is in turn is about NYPD. And NYPD can do everything. :)

eh, heart attack, cardiac arrest, I just kinda say one thing referring to the other, medical field is really not my forte. But yes, I am aware, cardiac arrest is basically when the heart just stops beating where as a heart attack is where blood flow to the muscle of the heart is just impaired at the most. Ofcourse, i could be wrong. That's where you guys at the paramedics department could do wonders lol Thanks for the reminder though. Health class bored me too much in high school but I am starting to appreciate knowledge I barely remember lol

 

And what i meant to say with the bat an eye thing was that most people are too busy and too cynical, especially in big American cities like New York to care about someone dying of a heart problem, they would rather go home and eat chips and that mc donalds they've had at home for 2 days straight and not learn a lesson from the thing. Grey's Anatomy, CSI, Southland, NYPD Blue, they are only fiction, people here are more cynical than most people think. That's basically all I was trying to say.

 

Again, sorry if I came out too aggressive there, no bad blood on my side either, I appreciate these types of conversations because I am hopefully going to apply for LAPD in a couple months, gives me some knowledge before I get in, anyways, have a nice day

What does this mean?

 

[ERROR - 1:17:27 AM] [script.CalloutManager] Error while processing callout: StolenFuel: Value cannot be null.

Parameter name: pursuit   at LCPD_First_Response.LCPDFR.API.Functions.ForceEndPursuit(LHandle pursuit) in d:GTA IVLCPDFRSVNbranchesLCPDFR Ambient ActionLCPD First ResponseLCPD First ResponseLCPDFRAPIFunctions.cs:line 253

   at WoutersCallouts.Callouts.StolenFuel.Process()

   at ‮‮‭‭‪‮‭‮‌‏‮‍​‫‬‬‮‮.‎‎‎‮‫‮‏‪‌‌‫‍‎‬​‫‬‍‌‍‮‏‏‍‌‫‪‌‫‮() in d:GTA IVLCPDFRSVNbranchesLCPDFR Ambient ActionLCPD First ResponseLCPD First ResponseLCPDFRCalloutsCalloutManager.cs:line 165

[ERROR - 1:17:27 AM] [script.StolenFuel] System.ArgumentNullException: Value cannot be null.

Parameter name: pursuit

   at LCPD_First_Response.LCPDFR.API.Functions.ForceEndPursuit(LHandle pursuit) in d:GTA IVLCPDFRSVNbranchesLCPDFR Ambient ActionLCPD First ResponseLCPD First ResponseLCPDFRAPIFunctions.cs:line 253

   at WoutersCallouts.Callouts.StolenFuel.Process()

   at .() in d:GTA IVLCPDFRSVNbranchesLCPDFR Ambient ActionLCPD First ResponseLCPD First ResponseLCPDFRCalloutsCalloutManager.cs:line 165

[ERROR - 1:17:27 AM] [ExceptionHandler]  LCPD_First_Response.LCPDFR.API.Functions.ForceEndPursuit(LHandle pursuit) L_0000 

 WoutersCallouts.Callouts.StolenFuel.Process() L_0695 

 ‮‮‭‭‪‮‭‮‌‏‮‍​‫‬‬‮‮.‎‎‎‮‫‮‏‪‌‌‫‍‎‬​‫‬‍‌‍‮‏‏‍‌‫‪‌‫‮() L_0352 

Error hash: 8D7B1F0A4400F1938F55F5345BB532D5BA9B9DB7

Hi! First of all, awesome script!

Just downloaded it, but i'm having a few major problems.

Is it working with the latest lcpdfr btw? The 1.0d

And also when i try to spawn the callout by pressing ~ then Startcallout Securicarrobbery (example) it will spawn other callout inatead maybe homeless ppl causing problems, mugging, etc.

Next problem i have is when i receive call regarding the LTA, everytime i arrive on scene it says case solved..and when i check the log file it says unable spawn ped after 2 attempt.

Thirdly if i get a cardiac arrest call, when i arrive near the scene it will comeout an error saying lcpdfr has encountered and error and ask me to restart lcpdfr

Lastly.. To be honest these are the only callouts i receive besides the original ones from lcpdfr.

Really hope someone can help me with my problems..

Thanks in advance!!

I assume this script is abandoned. Shame, I loved it and I'm having issues when encountering any callout from this mod specifically. It's just an insta game crash.

On 16-12-2015 at 3:15 AM, FranklinK said:

I assume this script is abandoned. Shame, I loved it and I'm having issues when encountering any callout from this mod specifically. It's just an insta game crash.

Unfortunately, because of a busy schedule, I am indeed no longer working on this plugin. Maybe, in the future, I can work on mods for LCPDFR/GTA again, although I would likely work on mods for LSPDFR/GTA5 then.
If somebody with coding experience wants to continue work on this plugin, I am willing to give access to the source.