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First of all never buy an iBuypower PC. iBuypower often uses very low quality components in their their computers to save money, so instead of an iBuypower look at some of MSI's laptops like this one:http://www.msimobile.com/level3_productpage.aspx?cid=6&id=406 or this one:http://www.msimobile.com/level3_productpage.aspx?cid=6&id=401. Both of them include the new generation Haswell processor by Intel and the new generation Nvidia GPU's.

www.pcpartpicker.com is a great website to learn more a computers. Also you can get a great PC for around $1,500, you don't need to spend all $2,000. So here is a build I have put together for you: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1aAw7

 

Thanks for the info, looking at it, it really is helpful... What operating system would you recommend and what type of monitor? I was reading some reviews about the Asus VE247H

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  • Marine831
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    I doubt it will. If I told you my current PC can run GTAIV maxed out with an ENB with 100 FPS, would you believe me? I have a Radeon HD 4350, an AMD Phenom II 910 and 8gb of memory. Do you even know w

  • Is that even a PC? Regardless, can you post your specs please?

  • Marine831
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    Aw hell naw. That thing will either blow up or implode when you play GTA.

Thanks for the info, looking at it, it really is helpful... What operating system would you recommend and what type of monitor? I was reading some reviews about the Asus VE247H

Personally I prefer Windows 7 but, it depends on what you like. As for the monitor Asus makes a great monitor. Do you plan on using more than one monitor?

Personally I prefer Windows 7 but, it depends on what you like. As for the monitor Asus makes a great monitor. Do you plan on using more than one monitor?

 

i dont currently have windows 7 or 8 ... i have vista cause alls i have now is a basic dell that everyone in my house uses, so this new one im going to build is just going to be for me. So idk which is better or just trying to get feed back for whats good to use. As for the monitor i only planned on using one

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Monitors are tough. Brand, resolution, response time. I factor in those three things. I'm one of the few here who likes Windows 8. Most people who argue against using it don't really have anything to say that grabs attention other than they don't like the way it looks and they miss their little start button (which will be patched in sometime during July). Windows Visa, 7 and 8 are all based off the same kernel. Windows 8 is faster than the others and will support Direct X 11.1, and I have a problem with buying old products, so I'd recommend Windows 8.

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Hello guys.

 

I'm about to upgrade my computer, but I don't know much about computer soo I'm asking you. What do I need to upgrade to get better fps.

 

My specs:

 

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit

 

Processor: Intel® Core™2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz (4 CPUs) 2.33GHz

 

RAM: 4 GB 

 

Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT 2GB

 

Thanks for help.

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Everything, really. That machine was top end in the year 2006/2007. That CPU is old, the amount of RAM is the bare minimum I'd use for today's games and the graphics card is several generations behind. They don't make those components anymore so you can't keep your existing motherboard and all of that stuff, so you'd have to ditch your machine and start over. New processors use different CPU sockets, new memory sticks have a different pin count and graphics cards now run on PCI Express 3.0 and likely demand more wattage than an old power supply could give if what you have is a store bought computer.

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Hey currently i'm running on an acer aspire 7551 laptop with 4gb ram 2.1GHz processor and very low budget as i'm going to college for police foundations and i'm looking for a better rig to play LCPDFR on.....

 

 

If anyone could help me find a half decent setup for as low as possible it would be greatly appreciated I've looked at newegg and Tigerdirect but i'm not too bright when it comes to new hardware 

 

Hey currently i'm running on an acer aspire 7551 laptop with 4gb ram 2.1GHz processor and very low budget as i'm going to college for police foundations and i'm looking for a better rig to play LCPDFR on.....

 

 

If anyone could help me find a half decent setup for as low as possible it would be greatly appreciated I've looked at newegg and Tigerdirect but i'm not too bright when it comes to new hardware 

 

 

What's your budget?

Do you need anything else like a Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse, or just the PC itself?

Are you interested in overclocking?

Can you build your PC yourself?

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What's your budget?

Do you need anything else like a Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse, or just the PC itself?

Are you interested in overclocking?

Can you build your PC yourself?

I can build it myself, my budget is as low as you can go most would be roughly 250 maybe a bit more (i know it's not alot but thats all i can work with) and i have a mouse and keyboard aswell as a monitor already 

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my budget is as low as you can go most would be roughly 250 maybe a bit more (i know it's not alot but thats all i can work with)

Not gonna happen. You can't even buy a terrible computer for that amount. Save up.

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Not gonna happen. You can't even buy a terrible computer for that amount. Save up.

yeah i can i've found some half decent ones (better then my laptop for 150) i could easy get at least a 4.0 and a good amd graphics card for 250-300

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If that's the case, buy me a lottery ticket.

 

That's nearly impossible.

i said better i didn't say it was much better... essentially i'm just looking for a short term descent desktop that  can upgrade as i go

Link?

better then what i have not amazing but better http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8238068&CatId=120

That thing won't even run GTA IV. Hell, it doesn't even have a graphics card.

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i said better i didn't say it was much better... essentially i'm just looking for a short term descent desktop that  can upgrade as i go

better then what i have not amazing but better http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8238068&CatId=120

 

If you plan on "upgrading" that, the first thing would be a whole new motherboard. That PC has DDR2 RAM. You're going to want DDR3 which isn't compatible with PC's using DDR2. It has an Intel Core 2 Duo which uses an LGA 775 socket. The best way to upgrade the processor would be to go to at least an i5 which requires, I believe, an LGA 1155 socket. The PCIe x16 slot is generation 2 where you are going to want PCIe 3.0. Based on what the case looks like, you're going to need a whole new one so your PC doesn't overheat with the upgrades. Basically, upgrading that will not work. It would be better to save up money to at least buy something worth getting to be upgraded, but I would suggest building your own computer on a website such as cyberpowerpc.com

"Work and ideas get stolen, then you keep moving on doing your thing."

If you plan on "upgrading" that, the first thing would be a whole new motherboard. That PC has DDR2 RAM. You're going to want DDR3 which isn't compatible with PC's using DDR2. It has an Intel Core 2 Duo which uses an LGA 775 socket. The best way to upgrade the processor would be to go to at least an i5 which requires, I believe, an LGA 1155 socket. The PCIe x16 slot is generation 2 where you are going to want PCIe 3.0. Based on what the case looks like, you're going to need a whole new one so your PC doesn't overheat with the upgrades. Basically, upgrading that will not work. It would be better to save up money to at least buy something worth getting to be upgraded, but I would suggest building your own computer on a website such as cyberpowerpc.com

what would you say about this? http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8238056&CatId=2628

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Well that's slightly better since it has DDR3 - although it's only expandable to 8GB (you shouldn't need more than that right now, but with next-gen consoles coming out, the PC requirements for games will be increasing). Again, it has the Core 2 Duo meaning to upgrade you'll probably need a new motherboard (that does meet the minimum requirements for GTA IV meaning you can probably play it on minimum settings). You will need a video card since Integrated Graphics will not do the trick whatsoever. I can't seem to find a manual to see what type of PCI slots it has. Another problem is that good video cards require good power supplies. It doesn't say what the power supply is, but my guess is you'll need a new one. Again, the case doesn't look very ventilated so it would probably overheat just with a new PSU and GPU.

 

The problem is that the first PC is for a business lifestyle and this one is for home and student. On these types of PC's you will not find a GPU at all, only integrated graphics. They are also made to be low power so you will not have a good enough PSU to get a new GPU. The processor is meant for general PC usage, not games, although it will meet minimum requirements on older games. As I said before, it would be better to save money and build a computer yourself.

 

Edit - another thing with getting a GPU but not a new CPU is that you will most likely bottleneck the CPU meaning the computer will not use the GPU to its full potential.

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Well that's slightly better since it has DDR3 - although it's only expandable to 8GB (you shouldn't need more than that right now, but with next-gen consoles coming out, the PC requirements for games will be increasing). Again, it has the Core 2 Duo meaning to upgrade you'll probably need a new motherboard (that does meet the minimum requirements for GTA IV meaning you can probably play it on minimum settings). You will need a video card since Integrated Graphics will not do the trick whatsoever. I can't seem to find a manual to see what type of PCI slots it has. Another problem is that good video cards require good power supplies. It doesn't say what the power supply is, but my guess is you'll need a new one. Again, the case doesn't look very ventilated so it would probably overheat just with a new PSU and GPU.

 

The problem is that the first PC is for a business lifestyle and this one is for home and student. On these types of PC's you will not find a GPU at all, only integrated graphics. They are also made to be low power so you will not have a good enough PSU to get a new GPU. The processor is meant for general PC usage, not games, although it will meet minimum requirements on older games. As I said before, it would be better to save money and build a computer yourself.

Ok... Would you be willing to look something up for me? i'm willing to put my budget up to 500 maybe a bit more but i'm pushing it doing that.. i can put the pc together my self so even a barebones kit or something with a graphics card on the side i can work with

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Ok... Would you be willing to look something up for me? i'm willing to put my budget up to 500 maybe a bit more but i'm pushing it doing that.. i can put the pc together my self so even a barebones kit or something with a graphics card on the side i can work with

 

The best way is to build a PC. I'm no good at building with a low budget, but I'm sure somebody could get something decent for $500. Try playing around with builds on sites. I used cyberpowerpc.com for mine, but I'm sure someone has a better site. Go there and mess around with builds or just buy the parts individually. My advice would be to go with an AMD processor since they are a lot cheaper and will get the job done.

 

Here are my suggestions:

 

The FX-8350 is only $190 and will definitely be good enough for now, but even going down to the FX-8320 would be good (I have the 8120 and it's works nicely). For video cards, I don't know much about AMD, but the Nvidia GTX 650 Ti will be good enough for at least medium settings. This case and power supply will be perfect (I have the same case). I would suggest 8GB DDR3 RAM, but 4GB is the absolute minimum (RAM comes relatively cheap). This would require a motherboard with an AM3+ socket, a PCIe 3.0 X16 slot, and support for at least 8GB of DDR3 RAM. You will also need fans and a hard drive (and OS).

 

Adding up what I linked (using the 8320), the subtotal is $294.97 after rebates and before tax and shipping. This doesn't include a motherboard, RAM, hard drive, or fans.

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