People have a First Amendment right to be jerks in public. This doesn't just include being jerks to cops, it ESPECIALLY includes being jerks to cops. As long as they don't actually impede police work, there's nothing they're doing wrong. Filming police at work should be a constitutional right.

 

 

Criminal cases are rarely filed against police brutality, and if they are and by a statistical impossibility the cop is found guilty, they get off with a much lighter sentence than an ordinary person would in the same situation. Best case scenario is usually a lawsuit, followed by the department firing the cop due to the money he costed them. But unfortunately, most cases come down to the cop feeling threatened, and they are usually reinstated.

 

One unfortunate example is this:http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/08/05/oklahoma-police-kill-5-year-old-boy-while-shooting-at-snake/. Police were called to a snake in a birdhouse. However, despite the fact it was a non-venomous black rat snake, the officer felt "threatened" and shot twice at it, missing it also. What they did manage to hit was a 5 year old child fishing with his grandpa, killing him instantly.

 

The piece of shit was expunged and is now capable and trying to get back on the force. http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/08/05/oklahoma-police-kill-5-year-old-boy-while-shooting-at-snake/

Yeah, how dare they harm no one by filming cops. What is it the government says? "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about?"

wouldnt you say the cop was cool though and the guy was being an ass though to the cop

wouldnt you say the cop was cool though and the guy was being an ass though to the cop

The point of doing this is to ensure cops aren't an ass. Being that they have a government job, they have no right to be an ass and being an ass could ruin people's lives given their position.

The point of doing this is to ensure cops aren't an ass. Being that they have a government job, they have no right to be an ass and being an ass could ruin people's lives given their position.

that is true but cop"""""" ((((((((BLOCK""""))))))) emphasis on block is to completely get rid of cops they even have a video called when to shoot a cop

Police are held to a higher standard. Does that mean you should be a jerk to random cops? I don't think so, but that's because I prefer not to be a jerk to random people in general. But just because I think you shouldn't, doesn't mean I won't defend your freedom to do so without official retaliation, or that I think there's some sort of moral deficiency in you (I just wouldn't hang around people who enjoy being jerks).

Yes, the internet can take things to unjustified extremes (e.g. Reddit, where the prevailing view seems to be that being a police officer should be a capital crime). That doesn't mean that there's a problem; people are perfectly allowed to take things to unjustified extremes. I think the view that there should be no cops is silly, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't be allowed to have it (and I don't think that copblock would say that if you press them; generally, organizations like this say that police should respect the limits on their power, and should demilitarize, but they still view some sort of law enforcement as something that must be done).

And police are not exempt from laws saying that you can shoot in self-defense. You are legally allowed to resist unlawful arrest. The only issue with doing so is that a) cops have more and bigger guns, b) courts will almost always take the cop's side, no matter what, c) the cops may not let you reach court alive if you try to escape unlawful arrest, and d) you don't necessarily know if an arrest is unlawful (if the police have probable cause or an arrest warrant, you can be arrested even if you did nothing wrong; that's why we have a "trial", to tell if the arrested person actually *did* commit a crime, and why arrests aren't considered evidence of wrongdoing).

Police are held to a higher standard. Does that mean you should be a jerk to random cops? I don't think so, but that's because I prefer not to be a jerk to random people in general. But just because I think you shouldn't, doesn't mean I won't defend your freedom to do so without official retaliation, or that I think there's some sort of moral deficiency in you (I just wouldn't hang around people who enjoy being jerks).

oh i get what you are saying

Edited October 3, 201312 yr by atiwarie

that is true but cop"""""" ((((((((BLOCK""""))))))) emphasis on block is to completely get rid of cops they even have a video called when to shoot a cop

I view cops as no different than anyone else. Should they put an innocent life in danger, appropriate action should be taken to subdue it, and having a badge doesn't give the authority to break the law. I personally wouldn't shoot a cop unless there were extreme circumstances, primarily because I will most likely be treated as guilty by his buddies and be killed without just cause (ie: surrended with hands plainly visible, no sudden moves and no weapons).

 

One example where shootings could be justified is no knock raids on non-violent offenses. Police have been given fancy equipment from the federal government, including weaponry and APCs, to enforce drug laws. However, this means they have to use that equipment. What could be accomplished with a knock on the door by uniformed officers in broad daylight a majority of the time turns into people dressed in black kicking down doors in the middle of the night and storming in with automatic weapons, drastically escalating the situation. Remember, anyone can yell "Police!"

What do you think?

Yup. Ever seen the movie 'The Recruit' before? It's about a CIA agent, but one of the instructors at the academy (played by Al Pacino) said a line about all government employees I'll never forget:

"Our failures are known, our successes are not."

Kids and adults alike don't like authority. They don't like being told what to do. I started in a citizens police academy just two weeks ago, and the officers I've met so far are 24 karat gold. They seem fair, and they do have a sense of what laws are fair and effective, and ones that don't benefit anyone. Cops are people. Some are bad people, some are good people. And the effectiveness "customer service" can be likened to that of a restaurant. If the people they interact with have a bad experience, they'll remember that longer and tell more people than if they have a good one. That's just the way it is.

Edited October 3, 201312 yr by unr3al

Now, I live in a rural area and really don't have anything bad to say about police brutality and have never seen it. The OPP saved my cousin from overdosing on oxycodone. I hold them in high regard for that. As for harsh behavior or force, the people that they ever do that to in my area are put simply druged up fuck-heads (pardon my french) or people with an IQ of 5 that don't have a hope of knowing better 'cause they don't try to do anything other than what they do which in a vicious circle gets them in trouble again.

Almost all the police here in Australia and nice people

My basic view is that most cops try to do good most of the time. Removing "most" in either place, or removing "try", makes the statement false. Cops are people, and have human failings; they are often placed in situations where the proper action is not pretty, and looks bad on video. That doesn't matter; I expect police to maintain a higher standard. While police brutality is generally over-exaggerated online, it is generally massively under-reported in real disciplinary records and court proceedings. Many corners of the Internet view any use of force as unjustified; with humans placed in stressful situations, some leniency has to be given. However, there is currently far, far too much.

As I have said countless times before, anytime I hear someone say that LEOs are useless and all are crooked and that they don't want to deal with them; my rebuttal is always, "Who are you going to call when your house was broken into? You were robbed? Assaulted?" Yes you get the few cops that take it too far, and though my opinion is probably biased since I have family that are LEOs. But the thing that irritates me the most, are the people who go out and purposely try to aggravate police officers. The cameraman always says something along the lines of, "I have rights, I can do this blah blah blah." But if they are told to leave the area to cease their current behavior and don't, to my knowledge, they can be charged, in the US at least, with either public nuicesnce or disorderly conduct. At that point, they are liable to be detained and whatnot. But My personal opinion of the police is that they are a must, and every now and then you get a bad one, but the majority of them are good ones.

I agree, these cops were complete assholes you should not kick anyone unless you are off duty and don't carry your gun

So you're saying that it is okay to kick people when you are off duty??? I'm not understanding.

If a cop is off-duty and unarmed, he probably shouldn't be taking part in law enforcement actions. For one thing, I'm pretty sure cops tend to only carry police ID if they also carry a gun, and without ID, they'll have a hard time convincing people they're a cop.

Something nice for the Officers here in New Mexico is they get extra protection. Meaning if they were to assault someone, the DA cannot prove if it was excessive force or not.

Wait, WHAT!!???!?!?! That is pretty much the single worst possible legal regime that is imaginable. I guess the one consolation is that police depriving someone of their civil rights is also a federal crime, which doesn't depend on states. However, I'd need a citation on any claim that it's legally impossible to prove a cop in NM committed assault, because that's just asking for massive federal lawsuits.

Wait, WHAT!!???!?!?! That is pretty much the single worst possible legal regime that is imaginable. I guess the one consolation is that police depriving someone of their civil rights is also a federal crime, which doesn't depend on states. However, I'd need a citation on any claim that it's legally impossible to prove a cop in NM committed assault, because that's just asking for massive federal lawsuits.

Here are some videos proving it.

 

In certain cases, police brutaility does need to be addressed because it is genuinely the fault of the officer, however, force is often needed in cases in which officers are called to and is greatly over exaggerated at times.

Police brutality?

Ever heard of the LAPD and Long Beach Police? They should come up as the definition of this damn thing:

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa-aiCAQ7zg

 

Bottom line is, every human is naturally tempted once they gain authority or power(or both). At some point or another every officer is bound to be tempted by it, and get carried away. It sets a fine line between those cops of great character, those of mediocre character, and the trash that needs to be locked up to never see daylight again.

Yes! In fact, cops too deserve to be issued sentences equal to those of murderers when they are in the wrong. Just because the bullet comes from a man with a badge does not make it morally or ethically correct nor legal. 

 

I have the upmost respect for police officers. However, I have absolutely no respect and no remorse for those who beat people senseless because they were "resisting"

So you're saying that it is okay to kick people when you are off duty??? I'm not understanding.

Im saying if you get into a dangerous situation and have to fight back