well, im a canadian so trump dont affect me, what you guys think about him being in? if you are a Christian what do u think? p:(

You have the right to express your opinion, and share your views on this matter, but in my opinion I think we should avoid talking about politics in this community as it is highly controversial right now and it's potent enough to cause an ugly discussion. Maybe this isn't the right time ...

Edited November 11, 20169 yr by GravelRoadCop

i agree if you dont want to, then dont. but as a canadian i want to know what you guys think. @GravelRoadCop

4 minutes ago, awsomeboy232 said:

i agree if you dont want to, then dont. but as a canadian i want to know what you guys think. @GravelRoadCop

 

I am Canadian as well. We're sleeping next to an elephant, so when they shift in bed, we feel it. I am going to sit on the sideline for this one.

true i might be with you, but personally i am surprised hileraly got more votes !!!!!

Here's a good strategy, lets wait and see what happens and not jump to any conclusions. The worst reaction is an overreaction. 

4 hours ago, awsomeboy232 said:

true i might be with you, but personally i am surprised hileraly got more votes !!!!!

The joys of an indirect suffrage. Doesn't matter if your percentage of popular vote is higher than your opponent, the 'winner-take-all' rule coupled to that indirect suffrage ruins everything. I don't call that a democracy personally, but hey, what can you do about it, politics is politics, they'd prefer to defend their seat rather than defend their people.

Edited November 11, 20169 yr by ScarletDraconis

i didnt want either..but the social justice warriors are upset and saying they are scare..personally i dont get it but as long as law enforcement has backing for when i join up and guns are still in my home..im fine

I've moved this to Law Enforcement, Current Events & Society due to this being more of a serious discussion. 

 

 

It's challenging, for me at least, to form any sort of rational/realistic opinion on how I feel about Donald Trump being the President when he hasn't even been sworn into office. So far it's pretty much been the same cup of soup that most American politicians have served the American people for the past few elections. They'll do this, that, and the other and it'll make America the greatest nation and fix all of our economic problems and social issues. Our politicians talk what everyone wants to hear, but then don't follow through with their statements once they're in office. The only difference with Donald Trump, in my opinion, is that what he's saying is simply catering to the far-right wing conservative crowd in America; which is something that we haven't seen in a while. I just feel that it's hard to really give any logical opinion on the matter when nothing has been done thus far. As things happen (or don't happen), then I'll be able to form a more validated opinion on Donald Trump being the President.

Edited November 12, 20169 yr by TheDivineHustle

see this guys i made a serous discussion  

I really don't think Trump being president changes much. Decisions still have to be put through the white house, congress, parliament and whatever first. If presidential elections are anything like politicians here in Australia it's a never ending cycle of who's hated the least.

On 11/11/2016 at 1:56 AM, ScarletDraconis said:

The joys of an indirect suffrage. Doesn't matter if your percentage of popular vote is higher than your opponent, the 'winner-take-all' rule coupled to that indirect suffrage ruins everything. I don't call that a democracy personally, but hey, what can you do about it, politics is politics, they'd prefer to defend their seat rather than defend their people.

 

Well, the US technically isn't a democracy, it's a Republic, we vote for representatives to vote for us, therefore we are a republic.

I could rant until my heart gives out, so I'll just say this: If you're a Trump supporter, you're in the minority of Americans. That is a statistical fact. The electoral college allowed the most unpopular presidential candidate in the history of American politics to become the president. It allowed the views shared by the minority of Americans to overpower the majority. That is an undemocratic system, and is contrary to the very ideals the nation was founded on. 

31 minutes ago, Riley24 said:

I could rant until my heart gives out, so I'll just say this: If you're a Trump supporter, you're in the minority of Americans. That is a statistical fact. The electoral college allowed the most unpopular presidential candidate in the history of American politics to become the president. It allowed the views shared by the minority of Americans to overpower the majority. That is an undemocratic system, and is contrary to the very ideals the nation was founded on. 

 

Yeah, but the majority can still be wrong, just because you are in a minority, doesn't mean your opinion means any less then that of the majority. 

11 minutes ago, TheSandwichStealer said:

 

Yeah, but the majority can still be wrong, just because you are in a minority, doesn't mean your opinion means any less then that of the majority. 

No, but it doesn't mean the minority should be handed the country. That's the antithesis of democracy.

 

Hell, even Trump agrees.

^This is from 2012

Edited November 13, 20169 yr by Riley24

While trump supporters may be in the minority, Hillary supporters aren't really that far ahead, as of right now, the results show that she won by less than 600,000 votes, which is not a lot, also, why do you make the point that trump supporters are in the minority. 

32 minutes ago, Riley24 said:

No, but it doesn't mean the minority should be handed the country. That's the antithesis of democracy.

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Hell, even Trump agrees.

^This is from 2012

 

1 hour ago, Riley24 said:

I could rant until my heart gives out, so I'll just say this: If you're a Trump supporter, you're in the minority of Americans. That is a statistical fact. The electoral college allowed the most unpopular presidential candidate in the history of American politics to become the president. It allowed the views shared by the minority of Americans to overpower the majority. That is an undemocratic system, and is contrary to the very ideals the nation was founded on. 

The electoral college system is a bit like the first past the post system in Britain. It allows individual localities/states the ability to get a chance on their government, and to not be entirely ruled by elite/rich urbanites in the populous areas like inner cities. The downside of this is that candidates who don't have a great ground game don't win. For example in the UK, UKIP got 3.9 million votes in the last general election. They got 1 MP. The Liberal Democrats party got 2.4 million votes, and 8 MPs. SNP got only 1.5 million votes, yet got 56 seats. Nobody on the left complained then.

22 minutes ago, TheSandwichStealer said:

While trump supporters may be in the minority, Hillary supporters aren't really that far ahead, as of right now, the results show that she won by less than 600,000 votes, which is not a lot, also, why do you make the point that trump supporters are in the minority. 

 

You just made the argument for why we shouldn't suppress the opinions of the minority. It only took one reply for you to then disregard the opinions of 600 THOUSAND people. If we can't disregard the opinions of the minority, why can we disregard the opinions of the majority?

Edited November 14, 20169 yr by Riley24

54 minutes ago, Riley24 said:

You just made the argument for why we shouldn't suppress the opinions of the minority. It only took one reply for you to then disregard the opinions of 600 THOUSAND people. If we can't disregard the opinions of the minority, why can we disregard the opinions of the majority?

 

Okay, I'll re frame it, should we disregard the opinions of the minority or the majority? No, but so what trump supporters are in the minority, you act as if though Trump is bad, he's not, has he said some stupid things, of course, but he's president now, so you'll have to deal with it, nothing we can do about it, all we can do is sit back and let Trump do his job, I'm fairly certain he won't screw up the country.