3 hours ago, TheDivineHustle said:

It actually brought a tear to my eye earlier today, the fact that all we had were Trump and Hillary as options. Just shows how broken and screwed the system really is.

 

Honestly, I would've really preferred Rand Paul, he seemed like the most reasonable candidate. But, oh well. 

On 12/8/2016 at 10:35 PM, TheSandwichStealer said:

 

Honestly, I would've really preferred Rand Paul, he seemed like the most reasonable candidate. But, oh well. 

He dropped out the day before my state's primary but I had every intention of voting for him. A smart, well-educated, and logically-sound man with great ideas for how to keep more money in our pockets, promote businesses, and take this country in the right direction. He was definitely the right libertarian candidate as opposed to Johnson, who as was already mentioned in this thread, agreeably was not the right candidate for the party. I hope I live to see a libertarian candidate like him in the oval office.

Trump picks Exxon chief Rex Tillerson for secretary of state

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38301686

 

Drain the swamp! 

 

...then fill it back up with muddy water from another swamp. :^)

"I am going to be an anti-system candidate and president!...

 

... Therefore, I will choose employees of big Wall Street companies and oil cheiks for my government, while I come back on half my campaign promises!"

 

Sounds about Trump alright. Not even in the office yet, and it smells bad...

I am disappointed in him reversing his campaign promises.

 

The wall turned into "fencing" in some areas.

 

The Clinton's are now "good people" and he doesn't want to prosecute her.

 

But I do have to defend his cabinet picks. He's not choosing politicians, he's choosing successful businessmen that know how to make money - so they can make money for our country and make our economy thrive again. At least that's how I perceive it. Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe a year from now, I'll laugh at this post. 

We can't make judgments too soon, he's not even in office yet. However, I will say this. He's not even sworn in yet, and he's already done more than Obama has in 8 years for the middle class (golf, golf, horrible universal healthcare plan, golf).

My dad was an HVAC technician, specifically for an oil company. He made a great salary. My Dad voted for Obama, thinking he would be a good president. One year later, in 2009, my Dad got laid off from the company due to slowing business (government incentives for installing natural gas heating instead of oil). My Dad now makes roughly half the salary of what he used to at another job, and our taxes have increased 45%. My Dad voted for Trump this year (as did I, and my Mom). We're not racist, hillbilly, Budweiser drinking Southern people that the media seems to label all Trump voters. My Dad voted for Obama in 2008, my Mom is a college educated white-collar office worker, and I go to college with the aspirations of becoming a police officer. We voted for Trump because we didn't want another 4 years of a Democratic, Obama-like Administration running our Country. For me, it was choosing the lesser of two evils. 
 

Even if Donald Trump gets impeached, at least we will still have a unified Republican government. Obviously, what we've been doing for the last 8 years isn't working. We need a new direction, and I honestly believe that's the Republican direction. Cutting taxes across the board for companies and every person, so jobs don't move out of the U.S... and that increased employment rate will generate more revenue for the government. And people will have more spending money with tax cuts, allowing them to buy more and support businesses. Whereas Democrats love raising taxes, and it does the opposite effect. Reagan lowered taxes back in the 1980's, and he increased government revenue by 65% if my memory serves me correct.

 

My final point. I believe Hollywood celebrities, or anyone that isn't Middle Class or below, to try and criticize those of us who voted for Trump is disgraceful. They don't understand what we're going through, how our jobs have been taken away, salaries cut, scraping by week by week. They have fancy limos, gourmet dinners, and never have to worry about not being able to pay outrageous tax fees and bills that are increasing month by month, and year by year.

 

I also believe this country is too divided. Everyone is either far left, or far right. What ever happened to being reasonable, or in other words, being a moderate/Independent? 

That's my rant. 

1 hour ago, Original Light said:

I am disappointed in him reversing his campaign promises.

 

The wall turned into "fencing" in some areas.

 

The Clinton's are now "good people" and he doesn't want to prosecute her.

 

I just wanted to remind you of something very important during this time after the election. The country is more divided now than ever with the exception of pre/post civil war. His job (as all presidents do during the transition) is to reunite the country as best as possible by lessening the more undesirable aspects of the campaign. At the very least until the inauguration. However, I do believe that it's also too early for him to choose a new appointee as a special prosecutor if he's not even inaugurated yet.

 

1 hour ago, Original Light said:

I also believe this country is too divided. Everyone is either far left, or far right. What ever happened to being reasonable, or in other words, being a moderate/Independent? 

The reason independents/moderates are no longer really that large of a group is a rather interesting topic that I had to really think about a while back, and the more that I saw the news, the more I realized it.

 

It simply boils down to how far left the progressives in the Democratic Party have gone. With their stranglehold on the media, entertainment (subliminally changing views), and schooling as well as higher education; the far left has been normalized (progressives ideas such as socialism for example), while right wing views have been demonized and forced into constant defence. Basically the progressives and (for literally lack of a better term) socialists took over the Democratic Party and essentially made their own radical party, let's call it the "alt left". 

Now, things like to be in equilibrium, and this equilibrium came in the form of the growing radical alt right as a result of just how radical the left in this country really went. Before we continue about the alt right, let me state something very important, there is actually two groups of the alt right: the old alt right, and the new alt right. The old alt right include neo nazis and legitimate racists, while the new alt right are the new people who hold views that are right wing (yet not conservative), but not racists. Something misunderstood about blanketing the two together is that they actually are in a civil war right now (if you will).

The alt right has grown in such large numbers is because of the alienation and exclusivity of the left wing, and their control on the country as a whole. It came as an equalizing force, a radical to counter the other radicals.

It's not too hard of a concept to grasp, but actually might be a little contradictory to what everyone else might believe, and therefore they might believe it's false, but I have yet to see anything to contradict the statement ever.

Prejudging by the filling of the Major positions, I assume America will  slowly continue turning further into a kakistocracy.

this is why im Canadian 

http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/99-reasons-why-its-better-to-be-canadian/

On 11/15/2016 at 9:30 PM, Windows446 said:

Trump won because his supporters are tired of being called "deplorables," "misogynists," "bigots," "racists," etc. Also he isn't a career criminal, and he's gonna #MakeAmericaGreatAgain.

 

I find it hilarious how the liberals are crying about him winning yet they were the same ones to attack him for not saying he'd accept the outcome of the election. 

 

There is a fucking reason the world laughs at us. The millennial generation is a fucking joke. 

 

 

 

I forgot to come back and respond to your comment. I want to say that I definitely agree with you and it's true. I didn't like Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton, so initially I was completely unsure of who I was going to vote for. Then I conducted my own research, rather than flip on the TV like most others do, and gathered some background information on the candidates. What I saw was completely insane; I saw anti-Trump protesters rioting. They were attacking police, fighting in the streets, flipping cars, burning out businesses, burning American flags, waving Mexican flags, cursing American to the ground to crumble and burn, attacking Trump supporters and vandalizing property publicly endorsing Trump. I immediately went out and voted for Donald Trump afterward. They made it easy for me. If it hadn't been for them, I may have actually voted Clinton or third party.

1 hour ago, awsomeboy232 said:

this is why im Canadian 

http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/99-reasons-why-its-better-to-be-canadian/

 

 

 

I wasn't aware that we had an interactive selection menu of a preferred country of origin before we were born. I must have missed the cut, maybe new technology of some sort?

 

I did not choose to be an American, I was born an American, and I take pride in it thereof. If I were born Australian then I'd be proud to be Australian. If I were born French then I'd be proud to be French. America isn't any different friend.

Edited December 17, 20169 yr by TheDivineHustle

52 minutes ago, TheDivineHustle said:

I forgot to come back and respond to your comment. I want to say that I definitely agree with you and it's true. I didn't like Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton, so initially I was completely unsure of who I was going to vote for. Then I conducted my own research, rather than flip on the TV like most others do, and gathered some background information on the candidates. What I saw was completely insane; I saw anti-Trump protesters rioting. They were attacking police, fighting in the streets, flipping cars, burning out businesses, burning American flags, waving Mexican flags, cursing American to the ground to crumble and burn, attacking Trump supporters and vandalizing property publicly endorsing Trump. I immediately went out and voted for Donald Trump afterward. They made it easy for me. If it hadn't been for them, I may have actually voted Clinton or third party.

I wasn't aware that we had an interactive selection menu of a preferred country of origin before we were born. I must have missed the cut, maybe new technology of some sort?

 

I did not choose to be an American, I was born an American, and I take pride in it thereof. If I were born Australian then I'd be proud to be Australian. If I were born French then I'd be proud to be French. America isn't any different friend.

yes well my post doesnt lie and i like americains...kinda, dont take it personally

2 hours ago, awsomeboy232 said:

yes well my post doesnt lie and i like americains...kinda, dont take it personally

 

This is a serious discussion. Please post elsewhere if you don't have anything meaningful to contribute in this topic. Simply linking "99 reasons why it's better to be Canadian" has absolutely nothing to do with the topic.  

I'm surprised no one is talking about the CIA and now FBI assessing Russia deliberately tipped the election in favor of Trump.

 

I can agree that at first it could seem like a democrat's last attempt to save their seat, but... I mean, both CIA and FBI assess it. Seems a bit too big to be a democrat tantrum now.

3 hours ago, ScarletDraconis said:

I'm surprised no one is talking about the CIA and now FBI assessing Russia deliberately tipped the election in favor of Trump.

 

I can agree that at first it could seem like a democrat's last attempt to save their seat, but... I mean, both CIA and FBI assess it. Seems a bit too big to be a democrat tantrum now.

You've also got to take note that Democratic Party officials are the people that initially made the claim of Russian interference. There's a good possibility that the claim is completely bogus and biased. You've also got to remember that this is the same FBI that cleared  Hillary Clinton from her email situation. I don't trust the claims to be honest. I also don't understand how Russian interference, if somehow possible, is even true if Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. I'd think that the Russians would have tripped that up or something. I haven't done much research on it so to keep from speaking out of my butt I'll go and conduct research shortly. But the way things are looking right now I'd say it's just simply the way our election system is designed. Whether or not it should be changed is a matter of personal opinion. I think Democrats aimply aren't happy with the outcome so they're trying to find reasons to have some sort of recount or something. They don't want a far right conservative Republican, as he claims to be, in the White House with a Republican dominated government. 

Edited December 17, 20169 yr by TheDivineHustle

4 hours ago, TheDivineHustle said:

You've also got to take note that Democratic Party officials are the people that initially made the claim of Russian interference. There's a good possibility that the claim is completely bogus and biased. You've also got to remember that this is the same FBI that cleared  Hillary Clinton from her email situation. I don't trust the claims to be honest. I also don't understand how Russian interference, if somehow possible, is even true if Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. I'd think that the Russians would have tripped that up or something. I haven't done much research on it so to keep from speaking out of my butt I'll go and conduct research shortly. But the way things are looking right now I'd say it's just simply the way our election system is designed. Whether or not it should be changed is a matter of personal opinion. I think Democrats aimply aren't happy with the outcome so they're trying to find reasons to have some sort of recount or something. They don't want a far right conservative Republican, as he claims to be, in the White House with a Republican dominated government. 

It's the annoying situation that this is now even being blamed for Brexit. Nobody even made this assessment after or even close to the time, only in the past few weeks.

Seems a little like the "boogyman" - I'm not seeing any evidence for it at all.

4 hours ago, Cyan said:

It's the annoying situation that this is now even being blamed for Brexit. Nobody even made this assessment after or even close to the time, only in the past few weeks.

Seems a little like the "boogyman" - I'm not seeing any evidence for it at all.

 

I actually think it's kind of funny. I turned on the TV and flipped to the news, which is something that I don't do often, and saw Obama making statements directly accusing Russia and Vladimir Putin of interfering with the election. He made a statement, "If Russia continues to interfere, there will be severe consequences". Consequences such as what? Lol, the man is comical to me. I just can't come to believe that Russia has any involvement.

23 hours ago, awsomeboy232 said:

this is why im Canadian 

http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/99-reasons-why-its-better-to-be-canadian/

I hate to tell you, but many of those reasons are either shallow as judgement, or misleading as a whole. For misleading for example, I'll go with the simplest and quickest one to debunk, which is the infant mortality rate. 

 

The main reason ours is so high is because if an abortion goes sour, and the baby survives, our law requires doctors to attempt to save it (which doesn't always allow them to survive). Thereby, this increases our infant mortality rate. Other than that, many of the statistics are extremely close in numbers, even by a margin of error.

 

Basically, it's a shallow, heavily opinionated list that leaves out many necessary facts for actual comparison. Oh well, some good nationalism couldn't hurt every once in awhile to drown out the white guilt :)

13 hours ago, ScarletDraconis said:

I'm surprised no one is talking about the CIA and now FBI assessing Russia deliberately tipped the election in favor of Trump.

 

I can agree that at first it could seem like a democrat's last attempt to save their seat, but... I mean, both CIA and FBI assess it. Seems a bit too big to be a democrat tantrum now.

I have yet to hear any statement from the CIA or FBI stating that Russia was involved in the election at all. The best I've heard is baseless accusations from DNC officials, and Obama (who wanted Hillary to win). Until the director from either one outright make a statement stating Russia has, I will be very skeptical of the claims.

 

Furthermore, the only plausible action they could've taken is releasing emails from the DNC to Wikileaks. However, there are doubts in that statement because Julian Assange himself has stated that Russia is not the source of the emails from any of the DNC leaks, and I believe that this be true judging by his anti government stance.

I have yet to hear from anybody in the DNC state that these emails leaked from any of the leaks (be it DNC or Podesta) are false, it's always deflection on to the bogeyman known as Russia.

 

The point is that there is no evidence from anyone that has been publically released at the very least from a credible 100% unbiased source (like the CIA or FBI). Look it up, the only sources that say anything about those statements are left wing sites that are at the very most as credible as Fox News (not actually Fox News). Just check both the Facebook, and Twitter page of the FBI, neither have said anything about that, and this would be such a great matter that they would have said something on there.

3 hours ago, crkinnh said:

I have yet to hear any statement from the CIA or FBI stating that Russia was involved in the election at all. The best I've heard is baseless accusations from DNC officials, and Obama (who wanted Hillary to win). Until the director from either one outright make a statement stating Russia has, I will be very skeptical of the claims.

Google it.

45 minutes ago, Riley24 said:

Google it.

I already did. I made sure to do this before commenting here. This "investigation conclusion" was supposedly from a CIA agent who leaked the information anonymously to the Washington Post, the problem with this is that no one is accountable, and this could easily be misinformation. The only people who are reporting this conclusion are left leaning news outlets and fake news websites.

 

Interestingly, I came across this clip from CBS News (a left leaning news company), this brings up all the problems with the Russian claim via the CIA.

 

Edited December 18, 20169 yr by crkinnh

21 hours ago, crkinnh said:

I already did. I made sure to do this before commenting here. This "investigation conclusion" was supposedly from a CIA agent who leaked the information anonymously to the Washington Post, the problem with this is that no one is accountable, and this could easily be misinformation. The only people who are reporting this conclusion are left leaning news outlets and fake news websites.

 

Interestingly, I came across this clip from CBS News (a left leaning news company), this brings up all the problems with the Russian claim via the CIA.

 

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-cia-director-fbi-and-cia-find-strong-1481920045-htmlstory.html

https://www.rt.com/usa/370641-fbi-cia-agree-russia/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-blames-putins-personal-grudge-against-her-for-election-interference/2016/12/16/12f36250-c3be-11e6-8422-eac61c0ef74d_story.html?utm_term=.90a21ad75e35