A lack of care and time work hand in hand when it comes to my descriptions for article posting. I just simply don't care enough...

If you don't care about the topic you shouldn't be posting about it. Simple as that. 

If you don't care about the topic you shouldn't be posting about it. Simple as that. 

LOL.

 

I mean that I don't care to write a description. I feel that if you want to participate in the discussion, then you should go and read the article yourself and get a better understanding. I'm not going to type it for you.

I dont think management have any plans to remove the board or change its guidelines at this time.

It's very common for topics in the politics board to be completely derailed -- although our current guidelines cover this. I think if anything we'll probably be stricter in enforcing them.

I mean that I don't care to write a description. I feel that if you want to participate in the discussion, then you should go and read the article yourself and get a better understanding. I'm not going to type it for you.

Regardless, you should at-least try to post some content about the article rather than just copying bits of it. Whether it's your opinion, information about that said piece or a question to the community, just put something there. It'll look a whole lot more professional that just copying and pasting bits and pieces and leaving it in a giant mess. A simple sentence will do. You don't have to go all out with paragraphs and paragraphs if you don't want to.

 

What I said above still stands though. If you don't care about that said event/news story, you shouldn't be posting about it. 

Regardless, you should at-least try to post some content about the article rather than just copying bits of it. Whether it's your opinion, information about that said piece or a question to the community, just put something there. It'll look a whole lot more professional that just copying and pasting bits and pieces and leaving it in a giant mess. A simple sentence will do. You don't have to go all out with paragraphs and paragraphs if you don't want to.

 

What I said above still stands though. If you don't care about that said event/news story, you shouldn't be posting about it. 

I understand what you're saying. Though my intention isn't to appear "professional" to complete strangers on the internet...   Even if I post a "professional" topic, most of the responses probably won't be the least bit professional anyways. 

 

"i wish i could kill you fucking prejudice fat ugly american".

 

One of the responses I got in a topic I posted about anti-Islam. 

Edited January 24, 201511 yr by CriminalKillaz

I understand what you're saying. Though my intention isn't to appear "professional" to complete strangers on the internet...   Even if I post a "professional" topic, most of the responses probably won't be the least bit professional anyways. 

*sigh* You're completely missing the point I'm trying to make. It doesn't matter if you aim to be professional or not, our website has guidelines that must be followed. One of those guidelines prohibits unstructured, messy or otherwise hard to read posts. Look at that thread of yours and tell me it's not an eyesore.

 

As for that last remark, perhaps people wouldn't be so hostile towards you if you stop covering controversial issues.

 I say no.

 

I'm aware that I've contributed to discussions that have gotten well off topic and far more heated than they needed to be. I think we all, myself included, can do a better job of self-policing. OPs can do a better job of trying to keep discussion on track, and those replying can take a moment to consider if what they're posting is appropriate, necessary, etc... 

 

As to what is being posted, I think some topics, as mentioned above, might be better suited to be left alone. However, it is a board for discussing "politics, current events, and society." This is very broad, so to expect nothing posted to be controversial defeats the purpose of having the board. 

 

Just because you have whatever expectations or predispositions toward the internet and those using it doesn't excuse you from the forum rules or making quality discussion and/or contributions. 

Edited January 24, 201511 yr by SIR_Sergeant

Politics should be left to those who are smart enough to discuss them. If anything, those who aren't mature enough to discuss politics should stay out of the politics forum.

*sigh* You're completely missing the point I'm trying to make. It doesn't matter if you aim to be professional or not, our website has guidelines that must be followed. One of those guidelines prohibits unstructured, messy or otherwise hard to read posts. Look at that thread of yours and tell me it's not an eyesore.

 

As for that last remark, perhaps people wouldn't be so hostile towards you if you stop covering controversial issues.

Well I did structure the post by putting the = signs to separate different subjects, so that is where I used structure and organization. I also bolded and underlined the headlines with a small description under it, that's where I made it easy to read. If I understand what you're trying to say correctly, you're saying that I need to be more elaborate on my topic posting.

 

That's like saying that perhaps people wouldn't get beat up if they stopped walking through alleys. They should be able to walk through an alley without fear or a concern of getting beaten. Same with posting a debatable topic. I should be able to post a topic without it derailing and becoming aggressive and negative.

That's like saying that perhaps people wouldn't get beat up if they stopped walking through alleys. They should be able to walk through an alley without fear or a concern of getting beaten. Same with posting a debatable topic. I should be able to post a topic without it derailing and becoming aggressive and negative.

It was only a suggestion. Controversial topics are way more likely to end in disaster than those of other nature, as I'm sure you know. 

It was only a suggestion. Controversial topics are way more likely to end in disaster than those of other nature, as I'm sure you know. 

But isn't that why we have a politics board? To discuss controversial topics and share insight on subjects where people hold different views? Isn't the purpose of a politics board to discuss current events and come together as an online community and express our opinions on said events? The fact that these discussions get out of hand has nothing to do with the topic, it has to do with the fact that the community isn't able to express and share opinions without becoming aggressive, and nasty, and closed-minded. It's a community issue, not a topic issue. 

 

The way I see it, what you're trying to say is like saying something along the lines of: "Because my child can't stick to watching appropriate shows on TV, I am going to remove our cable service." It wasn't the TV that caused problems, it was the child that couldn't handle watching appropriate shows on it. The child needs fixing, not the TV.

Edited January 24, 201511 yr by CriminalKillaz

The fact that these discussions get out of hand has nothing to do with the topic, it has to do with the fact that the community isn't able to express and share opinions without becoming aggressive, and nasty, and closed-minded. It's a community issue, not a topic issue. 

It's the internet, what do you expect? You're complaining about those becoming hostile towards you and I'm offering you advice on how to avoid those conflicts.

It's the internet, what do you expect? You're complaining about those becoming hostile towards you and I'm offering you advice on how to avoid those conflicts.

Right, but where we disagree is the solution to the issue. You believe the solution is to avoid the discussion altogether. I believe the solution is that members need to work on their aggressiveness and hostility towards opposing opinions.

 

It is the internet, but this isn't the YouTube comment section, or the TwitchTV chat. Rules here are enforced and monitored, so I'd expect a more appropriate response when posting a controversial topic.

I'm just going to call it as I see it. 

 

CK and Chester, Goddamn, guys.... Like Holy shit you 2 post a lot. When everyone says "BuzzFeed", they're probably referring to the articles you two post. They're small controversial issues, that quite frankly, don't matter to an international crowd. Are the topics interesting? Sure, but that's why there are sites like BuzzFeed. 

 

Chester, you're a prime example of it. I don't know how many threads I read that you've posted that begin with, "So today I want to discuss...". 

And as stated above, CK just copies the intro to an article and posts the link to the rest of it, and SOMEHOW he generates discussion.

 

By the way, all this is meant in more of a humorous tone and I'm not bashing you guys, but you 2 are a prime example of what Ini and Ill are saying.

I'm just going to call it as I see it. 

 

CK and Chester, Goddamn, guys.... Like Holy shit you 2 post a lot. When everyone says "BuzzFeed", they're probably referring to the articles you two post. They're small controversial issues, that quite frankly, don't matter to an international crowd. Are the topics interesting? Sure, but that's why there are sites like BuzzFeed. 

 

Chester, you're a prime example of it. I don't know how many threads I read that you've posted that begin with, "So today I want to discuss...". 

And as stated above, CK just copies the intro to an article and posts the link to the rest of it, and SOMEHOW he generates discussion.

 

By the way, all this is meant in more of a humorous tone and I'm not bashing you guys, but you 2 are a prime example of what Ini and Ill are saying.

Don't worry, I'm not a humorless stone like others. I found the humor in your post :).

 

Edit: I have already discussed my view on the postings with Illusionary just now. Anyone wanting to know why should refer back to those.

Edited January 24, 201511 yr by CriminalKillaz

I'm just going to call it as I see it.

CK and Chester, Goddamn, guys.... Like Holy shit you 2 post a lot. When everyone says "BuzzFeed", they're probably referring to the articles you two post. They're small controversial issues, that quite frankly, don't matter to an international crowd. Are the topics interesting? Sure, but that's why there are sites like BuzzFeed.

Chester, you're a prime example of it. I don't know how many threads I read that you've posted that begin with, "So today I want to discuss...".

And as stated above, CK just copies the intro to an article and posts the link to the rest of it, and SOMEHOW he generates discussion.

By the way, all this is meant in more of a humorous tone and I'm not bashing you guys, but you 2 are a prime example of what Ini and Ill are saying.

HA! Don't worry dude I'm not offended, I found this quite funny, yes I do post a lot, but besides that, I think that I've made myself a good member here. :D

Well firstly, you're the one who's been posting the most in that forum section lately.

 

Secondly, no, I don't think it should be removed; it's where I get a lot of my daily culture/news from.

I dont think management have any plans to remove the board or change its guidelines at this time.

It's very common for topics in the politics board to be completely derailed -- although our current guidelines cover this. I think if anything we'll probably be stricter in enforcing them.

Yes this is really the only thing I have in mind currently.  Some people hate the Politics board and some people love it.  Generally, those who hate dealing with politics and debates (like me!) give that section a very wide berth and are thus relatively unaffected by it.  The way I see it, the Politics and current events section gives people a place to voice their opinions on matters that don't currently have a place anywhere else on the site.  We don't like impromptu debates popping up in random discussion threads, and it's far better if people can create their own dedicated debate thread for a topic.  The people who are the most likely to get caught up in the politics section are probably those who enjoy debating, and removing the section would thus deprive them of that arena.

 

Likely to the dismay of some, I believe the only viable course of action is to become even more strict in how we handle debate threads.  We must ensure they remain on topic, but without impeding the ability of the participants to debate.  The major problem is that the politics section requires close monitoring, and if we're even 30 minutes late to a fight it spirals way out of control.  There really isn't much we can do about that, though - we all have lives outside of the site, and none of us are prepared to sacrifice what little personal free time we have in monitoring the section constantly.  The main way to fix this is to ensure we extinguish problems before they become real problems.  

Quite often the opening posts set the tone for the rest of the topic. If there are well constructed posts those topics are much healthier.

 

Cheers.

I'd say I like the politics section because it allowed me to see how different people from different countries view common issues. I can't say I'm active on many forums, so LCPDFR gives me the opportunity to see how CK (american) sees this thing, then Hystery from France gives his opinion, and so on. Nothing can be more interesting than seeing how different cultures react to same problems.