Pretty sure I figured out how to make the helo do everything it normally does except fire on suspects.

There are 2 things I can do:
 

1) Take away cop helo ability to use a weapon on suspects from the air
OR
2) Give helo cops a weapon, but limit the amount of ammo to 3 or 5 shots.

Please give me your thoughts, if no one seems interested I wont bother, but one thing that always bothered me about role playing was a helicopter cop would rarely fire on a suspect. I have seen maybe one or two cases where a sniper fired on a suspect from a chopper, but that was one shot, not multiple shots onto a moving vehicle during midday traffic.

UPDATE: This is referring to NOOSE called backup, not simple police choppers.

 

Edited April 18, 201610 yr by jdwohlever

I'm almost certain local air support doesn't actually shoot at suspects in the first place, only NOOSE air support does, so I'm not entirely sure why this would be needed.

They don't shoot for me. When I call local or NOOSE air support, they will just stick around. However, when the suspect starts shooting, the gunners of the helicopter will do so too. But this doesn't happen very often.

Are you sure? Anytime I've gotten 3 stars they have fired at me and when playing LSPDFR I have had the choppers shoot at vehicles I was after in a pursuit.

This was about a month ago.

 

Edited April 18, 201610 yr by jdwohlever

1 minute ago, jdwohlever said:

Anytime I've gotten 3 stars they have fired at me

This is typical GTA though.

1 minute ago, jdwohlever said:

and when playing LSPDFR I have had the choppers shoot at vehicles I was after in a pursuit.

This doesn't happen to me usually. If it does, it's only if the suspect used their gun, as I said.

for me the local heli do not shoot no matter what only noose does. but its not very realistic because noose blows them to pieces

Okay, let me change the question, Would you like NOOSE choppers to fire on suspects? I think even NOOSE doing it is far from realistic. Not that they do it, but the amount they fire and where they fire at.

 

3 minutes ago, awsomeboy232 said:

but its not very realistic because noose blows them to pieces

Okay, let me change the question, Would you like NOOSE choppers to fire on suspects? I think even NOOSE doing it is far from realistic. Not that they do it, but the amount they fire and where they fire at.

Modifying the backup.xml should help. Give the NOOSE air support helicopters that are not armed. You can also set armed helicopters to be considered as unarmed so they don't shoot.

Also if you don't want to have any gunners in a helicopter, just reduce the number of peds to 1 or 2.

Just now, TheUniT said:

Modifying the backup.xml should help. Give the NOOSE air support helicopters that are not armed. You can also set armed helicopters to be considered as unarmed so they don't shoot.

Also if you don't want to have any gunners in a helicopter, just reduce the number of peds to 1 or 2.

thanks i will do that, its not that i dont want them to shoot, its just DONT BLOW the suspects up. 

Just now, awsomeboy232 said:

thanks i will do that, its not that i dont want them to shoot, its just DONT BLOW the suspects up. 

Yeah, as I said, switching the Buzzard with some unarmed helicopter should help in that case. Or if you want to keep the armed one but don't want the helicopter, but rather the gunners to shoot, set the IsArmed tag to "no".

Just now, TheUniT said:

Yeah, as I said, switching the Buzzard with some unarmed helicopter should help in that case. Or if you want to keep the armed one but don't want the helicopter, but rather the gunners to shoot, set the IsArmed tag to "no".

that helped alot now i can finally play this realistically thanks alot

Native GTA 5 police choppers will shoot suspets, the ones that patrol around randomly. Since 3.0 police peds/vehicles around the area will automatically join a pursuit.

 

Edited April 18, 201610 yr by fatfluffycat

The reason I was asking is I was working on a realism mod and came across the files that control what police helicopters are loaded with. Saw the Carbine rifle setting (on the choppers loadout) with infinite ammo and decide to see if I removed that or changed it to 3 rounds. It works great.
This would only modify single player and LCPDFR experiences, not multi-play of course.
Any one interested or is this something that has already been done?

 

Edited April 18, 201610 yr by jdwohlever

18 minutes ago, jdwohlever said:

The reason I was asking is I was working on a realism mod and came across the files that control what police helicopters are loaded with. Saw the Carbine rifle setting (on the choppers loadout) with infinite ammo and decide to see if I removed that or changed it to 3 rounds. It works great.
This would only modify single player and LCPDFR experiences, not multi-play of course.
Any one interested or is this something that has already been done?

 

I don't think this exists yet. Feel free to upload it if you feel like sharing it.

2 hours ago, jdwohlever said:

The reason I was asking is I was working on a realism mod and came across the files that control what police helicopters are loaded with. Saw the Carbine rifle setting (on the choppers loadout) with infinite ammo and decide to see if I removed that or changed it to 3 rounds. It works great.
This would only modify single player and LCPDFR experiences, not multi-play of course.
Any one interested or is this something that has already been done?

 

Yeah that would be cool! Sometimes i'll force a 3 star wanted level so they don't loose me with the helicopter. But then they start shooting and it gets out of hand fast.

Simple install something else that doesn't shoot. NOOSE support will kick everyone's ass. My NOOSE is a regular air unit with a sheriff texture and sheriff SWAT guys.

So long as these ridiculous bullet proof armored cars and the Trevor-On-A-Rampage events are in the game, we'll need armed NOOSE helicopters. The AI shooting accuracy is pretty bad anyway, so giving them three shots wouldn't be a great solution to anything you consider to be overpowered.

On 18/04/2016 at 2:37 PM, fatfluffycat said:

Native GTA 5 police choppers will shoot suspets, the ones that patrol around randomly. Since 3.0 police peds/vehicles around the area will automatically join a pursuit.

 

I think that's the issue. My backup XML is set so that local and NOOSE heli have only one person inside and on top of it I have set IsArmed as no to make sure no one will shoot at suspects yet I still have air units shooting at people evading from a simple traffic stop...

Is there any way to calm down the heli units patrolling the city?

The helicopters are one of the best backups I've ever seen in the mod. In my game they are only shooting if the Suspect is running away. I think that don't need a rework.