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This is a great analysis video by Gracie MMA of a COPS episode that aired a few weeks ago:
 



The backstory: The suspect in this video was observed jay-walking. When the officer contacted him (politely), the man said he was trying to catch a bus. The officer said that he wouldn't hold him up long, asked him a couple of basic questions, then stated he wanted to pat him down for weapons. The suspect was apprehensive with his body language and was hesitant to comply from the start. As the pat down continued, the officer felt what appeared to be drug paraphernalia in the suspects pants. As the officer goes for his handcuffs to detain the suspect, he takes off running. The officer manages to do a backside tackle to take him down, but the suspect was an amateur wrestler in high school; giving him the ability to put the cop into a headlock and a tense struggle that potentially puts the officers life in danger, made worse by the fact that the struggle wound up knocking his radio loose so the ability to hit a panic button or call for backup is difficult if not impossible. The officer manages to stay on top for most of the struggle and eventually manages to get a brief call for help out before finally being able to draw his taser, strike the suspect a few times in the head and turn him over before backup arrives to make the arrest. As a result of the widespread incorrect perception of police being evil and unnecessarily violent more often than not, people in the area who don't know why the suspect ran are quick to blame the cop, and start recording with their phones, instead of helping.

Gracie MMA provides police training, and gives a detailed breakdown of what this officer did right, and what an officer without good defensive grapple tactics would resort to instead. The LVMPD is one of the best trained police agencies in the country, and as a result of that, this man was able to walk away with his life. For his efforts, the officer received several contusions to his head, a wrecked name tag, a disconnected radio and a ruined uniform, view-able in the full episode.

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I remember watching that episode. That was a really dangerous situation, and the cop did amazing with how fast things deteriorated. After his backup arrives, the officer talks to the camera, and he's pretty banged up. He's got deep cuts, bruises, and all sorts of small injuries. But it could've gone much worse.

As for the analysis of the fight, I agree 100% with what they said. Officers just aren't given the proper training to deal with these moments to get to a non-violent solution. He's 100% right, most officers go into a panic, and that's when lethal force or excessive force comes into play.

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Before I watch the whole video, I've a small question, why didn't the COPS crew interfere? Not that I'm judging them or something, it's just I'm curious if there are rules that forbid them from interfering no matter what. In my view, if a perp manages to overpower a cop in front of COPS camera, the crew is going to be the next victim. Who needs unnecessary witnesses.

As for the officer's tactics I'd say the suspect is truly lucky to be alive and have no face bones broken thanks for that officer. In the army we were taught that headlocks like that are extremely dangerous and you should counteract with whatever you can, not caring at all about the life of the opponent. I would shoot or at least try to harm his face, eyes and throat.

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23 minutes ago, Hastings said:

Before I watch the whole video, I've a small question, why didn't the COPS crew interfere? Not that I'm judging them or something, it's just I'm curious if there are rules that forbid them from interfering no matter what. In my view, if a perp manages to overpower a cop in front of COPS camera, the crew is going to be the next victim. Who needs unnecessary witnesses.

The COPS crew do intervene on very rare occasions.

Two links, same video. Second one is a compilation.

http://www.spike.com/video-clips/40c3km/cops-drugged-up-pedestrian-fights-officer-part-1

http://www.spike.com/video-collections/5yziws/cops-top-15-craziest-cops-moments/40c3km

I've also seen a camera man interfere with a cop vs. suspect fight in Anchorage Alaska in an episode filmed in the early 2000's, and a camera man detain a passenger of a car in Lafayette Louisiana two years ago when the cop took off after the driver. The clip I linked was from two or three years ago, Metro Las Vegas PD yet again. The person was high, most likely on PCP judging by his behavior and the fact that he didn't feel any pain and had unlimited strength, and was fighting with paramedics before police arrived. This cop did not do as good of a job on the ground, but nothing ever goes 100% your way in the real world. It's likely the suspect could have got up anyway while high on that stuff.

It's discouraged for safety reasons however. Boom mic operator Bryce Dion was shot and killed accidentally by police a few years ago in Omaha Nebraska while filming a shootout at the scene of a robbery inside a Wendy's restaurant. It was Omaha's first time on the show to my recollection, and they wanted to make a good impression and show America what a well trained police department they had. That went very, very wrong.

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20 minutes ago, unr3al said:

The COPS crew do intervene on very rare occasions.
 

Crew do or crew does? I'm not nagging, just want to learn :)

In the video I also noticed that someone from the operator's side pushed the radio to the officer, and some wires are seen on 1:10

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42 minutes ago, Hastings said:

Crew do or crew does? I'm not nagging, just want to learn :)

In the video I also noticed that someone from the operator's side pushed the radio to the officer, and some wires are seen on 1:10

In this sentence, the term 'the crew' is presented as a plural, implying the term 'they', so saying "they does" is not grammatically correct. Both do and does would work in this situation depending on how the sentence is being structured by the autor. Another example would be "Seal Team Six does wonderful things for America." or "Seal Team Six do wonderful things for America." Both are correct, they both mean the same thing, but one is presented as a plural, where the other is presented as a single unit, so it all depends on the context of the author.

The officers radio in the initial video gets knocked from his belt, but the part he speaks into is still attached to the front of his shirt, which leaves him able to call for help in between punches or struggling to gain control of the suspects hands. You also reminded me of another scenario of a COPS crew member helping out. A man runs from a traffic stop in his vehicle with the door open. It risks striking the officer or a member of the camera crew, so the cameraman shuts it.

The uploader of this video is an idiot, but this is the only clip of this episode I can find quickly.
 

 

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As good as the officer's reaction was, and as nice as the outcome could be, and as dangerous the suspect might have been in the end, it still baffles me that US cops feel the need to question and investigate someone who just jay-walked to catch a bus. I'd get arrested quite often if I lived in the US.

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13 minutes ago, Hystery said:

As good as the officer's reaction was, and as nice as the outcome could be, and as dangerous the suspect might have been in the end, it still baffles me that US cops feel the need to question and investigate someone who just jay-walked to catch a bus. I'd get arrested quite often if I lived in the US.

I often disagree with you on many things, but, frankly, that baffles me too. It's illegal and all, and formally a violation is a violation, and no offenses should be considered less important, and all that, but still the whole event is... Weird.

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2 hours ago, Hystery said:

As good as the officer's reaction was, and as nice as the outcome could be, and as dangerous the suspect might have been in the end, it still baffles me that US cops feel the need to question and investigate someone who just jay-walked to catch a bus. I'd get arrested quite often if I lived in the US.

If I'm going to be honest, I think that the officer knew something was up in his gut, maybe a bit of profiling, maybe a bit of just being on the job long enough he notices subtle things. Most officers I know wont stop someone for something that small. He must have stopped him knowing something was wrong, and used the jaywalking thing as a cover.

Similar to how officers will stop a car for an ANPR hit, but they'll use something to cover why they stopped the car in the first place.

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On 3/28/2016 at 10:44 AM, MikoFiticus said:

If I'm going to be honest, I think that the officer knew something was up in his gut, maybe a bit of profiling, maybe a bit of just being on the job long enough he notices subtle things. Most officers I know wont stop someone for something that small. He must have stopped him knowing something was wrong, and used the jaywalking thing as a cover.

Similar to how officers will stop a car for an ANPR hit, but they'll use something to cover why they stopped the car in the first place.

An ANPR hit is enough to warrant a stop by the letter of the law. That being said, consider this: Very few crimes in this world would be solved or prevented if it wasn't for probable cause. if I jay-walk, I get a ticket or a warning, because I don't carry drugs on me or have a criminal record.

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The officer explains in the episode that the suspect ran out of a motel complex in an area known for narcotics and weapons. They also say that they found a crack pipe and shank on him afterwards. It's lucky the officer didn't get stabbed. You can say "profiling" all you want, but this was a good stop.

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On 4/12/2016 at 0:56 PM, Riley24 said:

Why did he go from stopping him from jay-walking to patting him down for weapons?

When you work as a police officer in a dangerous area, it's within your best interest to find out quickly if the person you're talking to is armed or not. I live in a nice neighborhood, but I do travel to a couple of bad areas in my state frequently, and I wish I had the same privilege to ask or check people I interact with for weapons, because those areas are full of stabbings and shootings along with heroin trafficking and sales. Guns and drugs go hand in hand.
 

On 4/13/2016 at 10:51 PM, willpv23 said:

You can say "profiling" all you want, but this was a good stop.

This ^ is a knee jerk reaction so many people, of all colors, have with police stops now. When my friends complain about getting stopped for speeding, I find myself reminding them "the term is speed limit not suggested speed, so you earned it". In my view, any legal stop is a good stop. Obey the law and you generally won't get hassled. If you do, save all the bulls*** arguing with the cop, and file a formal complaint or a law suit later. It's a waste of everyone's time to argue or fight or whatever else.

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