I have a nivida graphics card with AMD CPU so far seems fine to me

I have a nivida graphics card with AMD CPU so far seems fine to me

 

How is it? Which AMD CPU do you have? Is it fast?

 

Thanks.

This are the two parts I use and so far I haven't gotten any problems with it, I been using it for years already I think it really doesn't matter what u pick :).

 

AMD Phenom II X6 1045T Processor (6 CPUs), ~2.7GHz

 

 

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti

 

bro this is the way i see it if you on a budget go with AMD, amd is as good as intel i just built my pc so far so good is super fast and the way i see it is intel is not cheap and all you paying is for a name with intel like i say amd is as good as intel and the perform and is cheapper

 

the only thing i do recommend you is to get a 2GB or higher video card as of right now thas my only problem im using a 1GB so my multiplayer is not so good crash every 5 minutes but when playing single is good

This is what I run and games like BF3, GTA4, Guild Wars 2 all run on high/ultra. I have AMD phenom 965BE (3.4ghz) and a ATI Radeon 6850 1Gig card. The video card is under $200 and you can get a faster AMD processor then mine for the money you want to spend. If you dont have to have all your graphic settings on ultra then you dont have to spend that much on a CPU and Video card. Intel's are always going to be a little more expensive but some people dont mind paying more for the extra features you get. If you can hold off and save up then go with the intel and get a core 5 (k) chip that you can overclock. On your graphics card sometimes a higher series card that is 128bit isnt as good as a lower one thats 256 bit. There are so many choices and alot of it is personal preference. I wish you luck man

Here you go

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-3570K-vs-AMD-FX-4300-Black-Edition

 

I am going to get the Intel i5-3570k for my next computer build too, so follow my steps if you please. :)

Here you go

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-3570K-vs-AMD-FX-4300-Black-Edition

 

I am going to get the Intel i5-3570k for my next computer build too, so follow my steps if you please. :)

 

Thanks! It seems like to me that people buy Intel just because it says Intel on it. Why can I get a 6 core 4.0 GHz AMD CPU for half the price of a lesser Intel that I can't overclock? What drives people to Intel?

Thanks! It seems like to me that people buy Intel just because it says Intel on it. Why can I get a 6 core 4.0 GHz AMD CPU for half the price of a lesser Intel that I can't overclock? What drives people to Intel?

 

I don't have a professional statement to make regarding this, but Intel CPUs are generally more faster than AMD CPUs regardless of the amount of cores or frequency they're clocked at. Just get the i5-3570k, you can easily overclock it to 4,4GHz with the right mindset.

Thanks! It seems like to me that people buy Intel just because it says Intel on it. Why can I get a 6 core 4.0 GHz AMD CPU for half the price of a lesser Intel that I can't overclock? What drives people to Intel?

 

Because the new AMD CPU's are all terrible. A six core sounds attractive until you find out that because it's on a smaller chip size, each core is far less effective compared to its Intel counterpart. AMD themselves the other year said they are no longer attempting to compete with Intel, and it shows. Intels top brass always stomps AMD in benchmark tests and real world performance. Clock speed and core count mean nothing if the actual architecture (the way the processor handles instructions) sucks. Hell, even my old AMD 955BE Phenom II X4 can outperform the new AMD FX series chips in some tests. That's bad engineering if you can't at least match a product that's over 4 years old.

AMD graphics cards are closer to their nVidia rivals, but only because AMD just simply bought ATI, kept on all the same engineers and firmware developers and re-branded a good company (which I also think they shouldn't have done, due to AMD's poor reputation in enthusiest level CPU's and their unknown brand status for general consumers). The last time AMD had any significant lead over Intel was from around 2002-2005. Once the Core 2 Duo's came out, it's been a slow ride downhill. The Phenom II's could compete in some capacity, but ever since then AMD has just been falling short. AMD as a processor company has refocused it's goals to be a company that makes extremely small CPU & Graphics Card combos called APU's which are fantastic for use in small portable devices such as phones, tablets and ultrabooks.

The only problem is, not a single major brand phone, tablet or ultrabook carries one. And they probably won't for a while, if at all. AMD is dumping this technology into devices that don't use it or need it, like DESKTOPS and normal size laptops. I commend AMD for their work on what we are beginning to call the 'APU', but if they don't start making good use of what they develop, and if they don't stop wasting resources trying to play catch-up to Intel, they're going to go under. They've been on the verge of bankruptcy since 2006, and the whole company could collapse if one more major design or marketing failure is produced. If you really want to see how AMD is doing in real world tests, go check out their latest top end chip and how it benchmarks. It manages to beat the unlocked dual core Intel i3 in most tests, contends back and forth with a few models of i5, and can't touch any of the i7's. The "benefit" is that if you had no graphics card, the new AMD CPU's have an on board chip far superior to that of Intels, but any gamer will have their own graphics card, making that feature useless. Unless you're desperately strapped for cash, AMD just shouldn't be considered anymore.

 

Edited March 27, 201313 yr by unr3al

GPU should be fine for todays games, I'm just concerned about scaling for the future, as my GTX 570 beats the 660Ti in several benchmarks, especially with FSAA enabled. The i5 you have certainly isn't a bad choice, but when I look for a CPU I don't have the mindset of overclocking something out of the box. I buy a CPU with a high frequency to begin with so I shouldn't have to OC it. OCing would only be something I do if I ran into money problems and I had to stretch my CPU's usefullness lifespan for another 6-12 months. Right now my PC is about 4 years old and it's just starting to show signs of slowing in the newest games like Battlefield 3, Sleeping Dogs and Crysis 3. Basically where I can't max everything anymore, or in Crysis 3 having to go to 'medium' settings. But I got about 4 years out of it, so I'm content enough that it served me well for what I spent on it. The GPU could use a slight bump, but the thing that's bottlenecking me the most is the CPU. In my case, my GPU happens to be bricked anyway, so that's going to need a toss too.

Because the new AMD CPU's are all terrible. A six core sounds attractive until you find out that because it's on a smaller chip size, each core is far less effective compared to its Intel counterpart. AMD themselves the other year said they are no longer attempting to compete with Intel, and it shows. Intels top brass always stomps AMD in benchmark tests and real world performance. Clock speed and core count mean nothing if the actual architecture (the way the processor handles instructions) sucks. Hell, even my old AMD 955BE Phenom II X4 can outperform the new AMD FX series chips in some tests. That's bad engineering if you can't at least match a product that's over 4 years old.

AMD graphics cards are closer to their nVidia rivals, but only because AMD just simply bought ATI, kept on all the same engineers and firmware developers and re-branded a good company (which I also think they shouldn't have done, due to AMD's poor reputation in enthusiest level CPU's and their unknown brand status for general consumers). The last time AMD had any significant lead over Intel was from around 2002-2005. Once the Core 2 Duo's came out, it's been a slow ride downhill. The Phenom II's could compete in some capacity, but ever since then AMD has just been falling short. AMD as a processor company has refocused it's goals to be a company that makes extremely small CPU & Graphics Card combos called APU's which are fantastic for use in small portable devices such as phones, tablets and ultrabooks.

The only problem is, not a single major brand phone, tablet or ultrabook carries one. And they probably won't for a while, if at all. AMD is dumping this technology into devices that don't use it or need it, like DESKTOPS and normal size laptops. I commend AMD for their work on what we are beginning to call the 'APU', but if they don't start making good use of what they develop, and if they don't stop wasting resources trying to play catch-up to Intel, they're going to go under. They've been on the verge of bankruptcy since 2006, and the whole company could collapse if one more major design or marketing failure is produced. If you really want to see how AMD is doing in real world tests, go check out their latest top end chip and how it benchmarks. It manages to beat the unlocked dual core Intel i3 in most tests, contends back and forth with a few models of i5, and can't touch any of the i7's. The "benefit" is that if you had no graphics card, the new AMD CPU's have an on board chip far superior to that of Intels, but any gamer will have their own graphics card, making that feature useless. Unless you're desperately strapped for cash, AMD just shouldn't be considered anymore.

Thanks for that extremely detailed response! I see what you mean. I'm not desperately strapped for cash, just the more expensive the machine is, the longer it will be before I have the extra greenbacks to buy one with.

Thanks again! Intel it is.

Here is a separate question: How important is a separate sound card? This is the motherboard - ASUS P8B75-V LGA 1155 Intel B75 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

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Edited March 28, 201313 yr by cp702

It still belongs in an edit. Merging.

Separate sound cards really aren't that important anymore. Your motherboard should be able to handle any necessary sound, unless you want surround sound or something.

Can someone help me? I'm looking to upgrade my laptop's CPU and I'm going with an AMD one because i already have an AMD A4-3300M and I want something better, but I don't know which one I should get. It should be fairly low priced and should be a really good processor for running GTA 4 smoothly. I recently added 4GB of memory so I have 8GB now and I hope that helps some. Here are the list of processors I would like a recommendation from because these are the only ones compatible with my laptop. So which one?

 

 

*AMD Fusion E-450

 

*AMD A8-3500M

 

*AMD A6-3400M

 

*AMD Athlon II P360

 

*AMD Athlon II P340

 

*AMD Phenom II N870

 

*AMD Phenom II N970

 

*AMD Phenom II P860

 

*AMD Phenom II N660

 

*AMD Phenom II N850

 

*AMD Phenom II P650

 

*AMD Phenom II P960

 

*AMD Turion II P560

 

*AMD V160

 

*AMD V140

 

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Can someone help me? I'm looking to upgrade my laptop's CPU

 

Firstly, laptops aren't upgradeable, you're stuck with what you have until you buy a new one.

Second, back onto the sound topic, sound cards help relieve a little bit of taxation on the CPU. It depends on how much another 2% is worth to you. I've had a dedicated one for 7 years now across three different computers, and will continue to do so until can't find sound cards at a reasonable price anymore. I don't buy the $200 sound cards with the Fata1ity branding, but I do make sure to get a dedicated APU of some kind.

Thirdly, since none of you helped me in picking out parts, I ordered what I originally posted with a couple of minor changes in the motherboard and case. It's a sad day indeed when the author of this topic can't get an answer to a question or a recommendation in his own thread on a forum board this big. I ended up with:

Intel Core i7 3770K CPU

Zalman CNPS5X Cooler

GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H Motherboard

PNY XLR8 nVidia GeForce GTX 670 GPU

NZXT Apollo Black Case

Wish me luck, I should have it built in about a week or so.

 

Edited March 30, 201313 yr by unr3al

Firstly, laptops aren't upgradeable, you're stuck with what you have until you buy a new one.

Second, back onto the sound topic, sound cards help relieve a little bit of taxation on the CPU. It depends on how much another 2% is worth to you. I've had a dedicated one for 7 years now across three different computers, and will continue to do so until can't find sound cards at a reasonable price anymore. I don't buy the $200 sound cards with the Fata1ity branding, but I do make sure to get a dedicated APU of some kind.

Thirdly, since none of you helped me in picking out parts, I ordered what I originally posted with a couple of minor changes in the motherboard and case. It's a sad day indeed when the author of this topic can't get an answer to a question or a recommendation in his own thread on a forum board this big. I ended up with:

Intel Core i7 3770K CPU

Zalman CNPS5X Cooler

GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H Motherboard

PNY XLR8 nVidia GeForce GTX 670 GPU

NZXT Apollo Black Case

Wish me luck, I should have it built in about a week or so.

Tell us how it goes! Also, could you tell me if this motherboard can go with this case? The specs say it can but the images make it look like it won't fit.

Thanks!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154109

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131835

Edited March 31, 201313 yr by Senatov

Yes, it will fit fine. ATX is a standard size. The only time you'd have to be concerned is if the case or motherboard says MicroATX.

Do you think you could put more of a selection of cards and CPUs on the first page? And maybe a "minimum build" for GTA IV LCPDFR (from what I've tested with my GPU, GTA IV takes 1200ish MB of video card memory) It would probably help a lot of the people who are new to computers (they don't know what to get exactly, sometimes people pick more than what they need and sometimes they don't pick the minimum of what they should have)

I could if I wanted to waste several hours of my day, but I don't. And the minimum requirements for LCPDFR are the same as those for GTA IV. But people don't understand that the word minimum is literal. Meaning that it is barely enough to get the game to start. I've posted it before and people don't heed the warning because they either don't read it, or they don't care. Gaming on PC's is expensive. But those who can't or don't want to shell out the cash can always buy an XBOX.

Edited March 31, 201313 yr by unr3al

This is the build I recommend to PC gamer that want a computer that can play any game out there with pretty good FPS:

 

CPU:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

 

Thermal paste for CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186020

 

Heatsink: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

 

MotherBoard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131837

 

Graphics card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130826

 

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341017

 

HardDrive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533

 

Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314

 

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153

 

 

Now feel free to change out the motherboard with another Z77 montherboard. Any mondern day Z77 motherboard will support everything I just posted there. This is just a default build I recommend everyone at 1st then build off of that...

 

 

 

 

Edited March 31, 201313 yr by Darkangel