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2009 Crown Victoria

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That's really cool! 

This just for my own curiosity, but can you tell me what kind of material is used to cover the roof on the inside of the car? I searched a lot for a picture capturing the roof but couldn't find any.

Nice car man. If I were you though, I would paint the white doors and white roof black to match the rest of the car (if it's financially feasible). Just to avoid possible police harassment. You could probably get it done for cheap at a body shop, and wont cost you that much since there isn't that much to paint. How many miles are on her? 

 

 

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Nice car man. If I were you though, I would paint the white doors and white roof black to match the rest of the car (if it's financially feasible). Just to avoid possible police harassment. You could probably get it done for cheap at a body shop, and wont cost you that much since there isn't that much to paint. How many miles are on her? 

Not only for police harassment, but for your own personal safety as well. There are many people that don't take a liking to cops.

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Thanks for the comment's everyone I do appreciate them. I have been harassed by the police. For having the push-bars and antennas on it. In Ontario the vehicle can be seized if I impersonate a police officer or put decals on the car to make it say police. So when the officer pulled me over. They ended up having three cruisers show up. There are a few of these black and whites in the city where I live btw. So there try to intimidate for the antennas and such. Now mind you these were city cops. The car is a ex Provincial Police car, much like the CHP. I have never ever had a problem with the OPP while driving this car. They have been directly beside me, across the street from me and I've own the car for over a year. But the city cops had a problem with it. I explained that to the officer with the city and he replied "that's because they think its a real cruiser". To my reply, "Oh come on, do you think they're that stupid that the can't tell the difference". He didn't say anything after that. I said "I know the law and if the vehicle looks has the markings of a police vehicle you can seize the vehicle. So seize it". They said "no we aren't going to seize it". And I replied "well if it looks so much like a OPP cruiser then you are required by law to seize it". Again they replied "No". See just like anything when you tell a person to do something especially the police but I find that for most cases people wont do it. Because they don't like to be told there job. And for another, they knew I was right.

So they went back to their cruisers and I want you to take not of this part. The officer who made the initial stop was driving a Crown Victoria. The officer came came back and handed me a ticket, now get this. For no "mud guards". I said "you've got to be joking"? He said "my vehicle under the Highway Traffic Act (HTA) doesn't comply". So as we were bantering back and fourth I pointed out look at all these cars going by without them. He stated "I write everyone a ticket for this". I said "come on. You can't be serious"? He was. The fine was $160. I was shocked. He walked back to his patrol car and I was sitting there with the ticket in had and I thought, wait I wonder if his Crown Victoria has mud flaps? I get out of the car and him and his partner spring out of the cruisers. I asked "Are police vehicles exempt from such a law"? He said "I believe so". He had no damn idea. So I walked back to his cruiser and said "your car doesn't have them. I guess its a double standard eh"? He didn't say anything and from here on in I decided that he will forever be know as officer Mudflap. Even if he reaches the rank of chief. He will be chief Mudflap. With all do respect of course.

There were three options on the ticket, pay it; speak to the prosecutor; or go to trial. So I opted for #2. Speak to the prosecutor. I read the law under the HTA section 66(3)

Mudguards

(3) Every motor vehicle and every trailer shall be equipped with mudguards or fenders or other device adequate to reduce effectively the wheel spray or splash of water from the roadway to the rear thereof, unless adequate protection is afforded by the body of the motor vehicle or trailer or by a trailer drawn by the motor vehicle.  R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 66 (3).

I figured I had an airtight case. First the officer's cruiser didn't have them. The police weren't exempt from the law. And the vehicle past a safety inspection by a licensed mechanic. As well there are no specific dimensions at to what are adequate or inadequate protection for a vehicle.  I had them dead to rights.

I receive my date to meet with the prosecutor. A day before my birthday. I go to court meet with the prosecutor and she asks why I don't want to pay the fine. I said "first off the police car didn't have them, why should I"? Now this is priceless her response. "Your vehicle is not a police car". "I know this I said, I have the exact same car as the police car" Again "You do not have a police car". "Well how do I go about giving the police officer a ticket for driving a vehicle without mudguards". She said "if you want you can file a complaint with the police". So this went back and fourth and she said "you don't have mudflaps". I was getting pissed off now. "How then could my car pass a safety and the millions of other vehicles on the road"? She gave me a stupid answer and then reverted back to her previous statement "that I didn't have mudflaps" and then she flips a page and she had the officers notes. And on it stated that "It looked like a police car". But yet earlier if you remember she said "It wasn't a police car". AND THAT WAS THE WHOLE ISSUE! POINT BLANK! So I was just so pissed I gave up. She said so your two options are to pay it or go to trial. My aunt was sick I am going through with hell with that and I just said "I'll plead guilty and pay it". I had to then go into the court in front of a bunch or red light camera ticket offenders and plead my guilt before a judge. When the judge read the charge you could just see the look of WTF is this charge. 

In hind site, I wondered to myself what had transpired and how I could have handled that differently with the prosecutor. I wondered to myself, I bet she doesn't have mud guards on her vehicle. The hypocrisy of it all. I know its a minor infraction, but just think how the law can screw you. And this is why we have lawyers people. For crap like this. It doesn't matter that the police is above the law or anyone else for that matter. Just that I got "caught". I have never ever felt so cheated and railroaded in my life. I let the issue rest for a while. Made a joke out of it. Then I contacted the Chief of Police. He was put me in contact with his executive officer. We've been playing phone tag, but I'm sure I'll get the same cavalier attitude that they are the law and I'm wrong.

That's the story so far

So as to comment to the post about harassment or being attacked by the public. The public is the least of my worries. The police are the issue. I have stripped the car of antennas and push bar and it is exactly how you see it. It's a great car to drive. Handles like a dream and have more get up and go then my 2008 Bullitt Mustang 4.6L 3V. And is not to bad on gas for a V8. The headliner is typical of North American cars. Pictures to follow. Now as for what I paid it was a steal. I paid taxes in safety, etested $2400 on the road. It had 180000Km and 2550 hours on the idle clock. Now it did have a pretty bad shake in the front end so I think they just wanted to unload it. The dealer I bought it from bought lots of them. He would get them for his taxis buddies and the left overs he would sell to the public. It turns out it had a bent rim. That was it. Replaced it and drives great. My plans are to fully restore it to original OPP markings once there are no more CVPI's on the road and with the OPP's permission.

That is really unfortunate. Sorry to hear that. Those cops and the prosecutor you talked with were textbook assholes imo. Funny how it's only the crown vic, that is getting shit about "impersonating a police officer". I have never heard any1 being fined for driving a ford explorer, which is basically the ford piu.

Anyway I don't think they'd let you put OPP markings on your CVPI, even after they phase out the crown vic completely. I bet you couldn't drive a model T with OPP (or any police) markings on it.

This was my ride for 2 years in Socal, and I got waves and hellos from local law enforcement lol.

It was a city beat unit, repainted it dark blue, and added the antennas and push bar, even had PA and some LEDs. Only bad part was could never go anywhere quick on the freeway because everyone did 65mph on the dot lol. 

I sold it though a few months back.

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Angelo, I know what you mean. So when ever I take her out I keep her in the right lane and just take my time. I check my mirrors on the highway and see a guy flying. Then you don't seem the car pass. They've jammed the breaks on. Crazy! That's a great colour and the car looks fantastic. Fortunately up her the damn salt plays hell on the cars. Fortunately the underbelly on my Vic is good shape for being 6 years old. I get it oil sprayed like my truck. The only way to go. Oh guys, listen to this story. I almost forgot. Last month stop my truck at the drug store and see a CVPI the same colour as yours Angelo. It's got the puck antennas. Whip antennas. You can see a cord for a hand mic wrapped around the rear view mirror. I didn't have much time to take a look at it as the owner came out no more than 30 seconds when I walked over to it. After having my ordeal, I though well this car looks way more like a cruiser than mine. I had the dual factory LED flasher lamps right beside the third brake light. Spot lamp. A laptop stand, IPhone stand. I wish I could have snapped some pics. 

As she came to her to car, I asked her "if she has had any problems with the police due to the fact it looked like an unmarked cruiser. She stated she hadn't. I told her my incident and she should watch out and her answer to me was "I know how to get out of trouble with the cops". I can only imagine what she meant by that. But see, the hypocrisy of it all. She was in a rush to get away from me for some reason or another. I told her to make sure she gets the mud guards on the car because it's a $160 if she don't. She thanked me and went on her way.

Sgt.Kanyo you're absolutely right. But there are a few cars in the area that are allow police markings as long as it's only for "show purposes". If you have a chance, check out the OPP Museum website http://www.opp.ca/museum/index.php . Check out the 100 years of the OPP CVPI. It's a 2009 with embroidered seats. Totally wicked! There have been some classic cars that have been made over of local police agency's. I have to get further info but I just wouldn't be able to drive the car unless it was to and from a show and such. If I'm unsuccessful. Then I will just take the advice of the others and paint the doors and roof. I wonder if I can use CHP livery lol? My mind is always on the go. This is actually my second one. The first was an 03 which was painted all white.

I hope this pics can help the modders, put together even more life like skins and interiors for the CVPI. The last of the finest in my humble opinion.

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Here are some photos of the interiors and basic exteriors of the car. Hope this helps for modders?!

 

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Think you could get me some really good photo's of the seats? 

 

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Put the antennas and push bar back on it. You can have them on all you want. Your can can be pink with as many antennas on it as you want or a basic push bar like you had or a go rhino wrap around. Don't let them intimidate you, at that point they think they are above the law. If I seen them and you take what I said seriously and put the antennas and push bar back on if you seen the same officers I would flip them off every time you see them.

Nice car, OP.  Engine bay is a lot cleaner than my '02 CVPI.  I own a 2002 ex-LAPD unit that's been repainted and had its pushbar removed, but retains its spotlamps and has a radio antenna mounted on the trunk.  Most agencies around me don't mind the car.

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