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And The Most Generous Country In The World Is.....

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Great, now if only the united states could pay their debt of 17 trillion dollars. :D 

 

But, anyways this is good news, although this does not make the united states the best country in the world, these statistics show the positives of the US.  :thumbsup:

 

I would too, like to know how this is calculated.  :unsure:

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"I'm a marked man, so I'm getting out of here"

 

Ray Machowski

Im surprised none of you are asking where in the world is myanmar?

Burma, officially the Republic of the Union of Myanmar, commonly shortened to Myanmar, is a sovereign state in Southeast Asia bordered by Bangladesh, India, China, Laos and Thailand.

 

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"I'm a marked man, so I'm getting out of here"

 

Ray Machowski

Wow. U.S. Donating money when it has no money to donate. Sounds like 'murica to me. We go around helping all these countries when we still have problems of our own. I could see if we were somewhat close to solving our own problems with hunger, homelessness and education. Not to forget making money. To just go to other places and ask if they need help and give them our resources seems trivial at best. How about we spend that money on bettering our own nation. Im not saying stop helping and giving. Im just saying do a BUNCH of cutbacks. 

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2 things need to happen for that.

 

1. Get rid of the Federal Reserve (not federal, it's a private foreign banking system that we were conned into signing onto).

If by "not federal" you mean "complicated governance, but overall policy is set by the independent federal government agency known as the Fed's Board of Governors, whose members are appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate [just like every *other* independent executive agency; there's a lot of them], and whose constituent banks have significant presence on their boards of directors of those designated by the Board of Governors; which is established, given its mission, and regulated by statute; and which is mostly relatively independent because politicians don't know the first thing about economics", then yeah, it's not federal. If by "foreign" you mean "has literally nothing at all to do with any other country, is entirely homegrown", then it's "foreign". I'm really not sure you know what the Fed is.

 

2. Get rid of the IRS (today's mafia). Another con that we were fooled by. We can go back to just having the Department of the Treasury both print the money, instead of the foreign Federal Reserve Bank, and collect taxes and set tax laws, instead of the criminal IRS.

Again, I'm not sure you have the slightest idea what the IRS is, or how tax law works. The Treasury department never set tax laws. Ever. They can't. Laws are set by this agency (by your standards, it's probably a "foreign" agency) known as "Congress". The Treasury sets regulations around taxes; that provides interpretations, which are given a fair amount of deference by courts, but they absolutely must follow the tax code established by Congress. In other cases, an agency has a lot of leeway in regulations (e.g. the FAA has a fairly broad mandate, because the idea is that Congress shouldn't try to be aviation safety experts; instead, the FAA's told to "make flying safe" and decides what regulations best achieve that goal. The IRS, less so - the Internal Revenue Code is fairly detailed, because tax is one of those things that's supposed to be determined by elected representatives instead of civil servants).

The Treasury has always collected income tax. It does so via the IRS. The IRS is an agency of the Treasury Department. It has literally existed since the very beginning of the income tax. To claim that the Treasury, not the IRS, should collect income tax shows a fundamental lack of understanding of the basic structure of the US government. If the IRS collecting taxes means the Treasury doesn't, then the Department of Defense does not conduct any military operations, because the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines do.

 

We do these 2 things and we have a chance. Though staying out of unnecessary wars would be a great addition. But special interests force us into them because of the way their criminal organizations are set up. In other words, we either get rid of the nutjobs that run the Country from behind the scenes with secret threats and harassments, or we're fucked.

Or, you take the trouble to do the most basic research on your claims. Then, you come up with arguments whose premises are at least mildly true.

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Great, now if only the united states could pay their debt of 17 trillion dollars. :D 

 

But, anyways this is good news, although this does not make the united states the best country in the world, these statistics show the positives of the US.  :thumbsup:

 

I would too, like to know how this is calculated.  :unsure:

The majority of that $17 Trillion is owed to the American people, and I'm sure most of the American people don't even know it. It still baffles me how people think we owe $17 Trillion to China.

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I do my research by the way, and I know what I'm talking about. I don't just talk out of my ass, just to set the record straight. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_the_Treasury

As far as them setting law you're correct, they never did and I never meant to make it sound as if they did. I should've used different words there and it was my mistake. What I meant was they were in control of them and aided in the enforcement of them after the law had passed (prior to Lincoln). Rather than the IRS strong-arming people to gain currency (which is illegal according to the U.S. Constitution, no matter what any other law says, if it goes against the Constitution, it's void). What I'm saying is, Income tax is illegal, like it or not. The Constitution says your income is a private matter that you do not have to discuss with anyone, local or federal. So I call them today's Mafia because they illegally go around collecting money. Those who do not comply with these criminals are labeled as criminals themselves (also illegal, this is called "false imprisonment" which is a federal crime). Just because they do something doesn't make it legal or okay, we are not in North Korea. I'm not saying taxes are bad, I'm saying illegal taxes need to go.

I'm confused now. Tax is always collected by ordering people to pay it; furthermore, the Treasury still does collect taxes, because the IRS is a part of the Treasury Department. On that wiki page, note how under "Structure" the IRS is listed as a bureau of the Treasury Department, so the Treasury is still in control of tax collection and regulations, just as much as the Justice Department is in control of FBI operations, or the State Department is in control of the Foreign Service, or the Department of Defense is in control of the US Army.

As for constitutionality -- the Constitution says nothing of the sort. It doesn't say your income is private; the sole Constitutional objection back in 1895 (when some income taxes were struck down) was that a tax on income derived from property was a direct tax, meaning it would have to be apportioned based on population (instead of based on income). Taxes on wages have never been considered unconstitutional; they weren't implemented until the Civil War for reasons of public policy (tariffs were considered more desirable), not for reasons of constitutionality. After taxes on income derived from property were ruled unconstitutional, the Sixteenth Amendment was passed and ratified:

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

I find it hard to reconcile that with a claim that an income tax is unconstitutional.

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