this device can be deployed anywhere anytime and its a risk to everyone's freedom its the stingray

 http://www.infowars.com/sacramento-sheriff-confronted-over-stingray-surveillance/

this country needs transparency ASAP  this technology is getting crazy and out of control

Edited June 24, 201411 yr by rss3781

I don't see the problem, your data gets collected as soon as you get a phone, or sign your contract for the internet etc. 

Right. Unfortunately, almost no one (including me) is staying on topic here, so this thread is being closed for 6 hours and will then be cleaned up. If people want to contribute something to the topic at hand, they will be allowed to do so then, but this thread will be closed to prevent further off topic posts.

As it has been 6 hours, this thread is being reopened with all off topic remarks hidden. Any further off topic remarks by anyone in this thread will result in the thread being closed.

 

Also, moved to Politics, Current Events and Society.

Just what most people must be suspecting I guess.
It should be common knowledge now that when you use a Cell Phone or the Internet, you can expect all that you do with it, to be monitored by "security" agencies (NSA, CIA, etc.). It's new (to me) that even PDs now started using them, but oh well.

Heard about these a few months ago. It's really nothing new, but it's still surprising how many people don't know that the government is tracking your every moves. I mean these days it's pretty hard to escape surveillance. Cellphone pings, Intersection traffic-detection (as in to tell if there's a car waiting at the intersection) cameras, hidden microphones, browser tracking... I'd be surprised if the government WASN'T tracking us, to be honest.

Sarcastic humour: If you don't want to be tracked at all by the government, go to Antarctica and make sure you don't have anything capable of receiving a GPS signal on you. There's no real cellphone towers there, nor Internet, so you should be good. Also, tinfoil hats go shiny-side down.

Off-topic: It's also surprising how many people don't know that social media companies (e.g. Google, Twitter, etc.) collect information about your browsing habits to sell to the highest bidder. Seriously... have you read the privacy policies? You really should one of these days.

Edited June 25, 201411 yr by EvilJackCarver

Not that I agree with invading people's privacy, but it really doesn't bother me. What will they do with my information? As long as they aren't contacting me just to criticize me on what I do on my phone, I really don't care.

I'm one of those people who is a very private person, doesn't mean that I'm doing something wrong, I don't really tell people my life story or what I'm about because it's really none of their business, nothing I do effects their life choices & it bugs the fuck out of me when people ask questions that's none of their business, my mom even knows better then to ask me questions like what I make at my job, girlfriends mom is BAD for butting into my business, asking questions about things that don't concern her, if I feel that way about my gf's mom then I sure as hell don't want some government official sitting at a desk getting into my "dirty laundry"

I wouldn't be very moved by this if I lived there. What are they gonna do with my information? No illegal activities going on around here, I got nothing to worry about. Only people who'll boo-hoo about this are going to be those who invest in tin-foil hats. What's the problem.

What is privacy?

 

Everywhere we go, we are being watched by CCTV, we're being monitored, recorded and watched.. so does it really matter if the police has this stuff, it's not like our phone conversations were private anyways. If you have nothing to hide, then what's the big deal.

 

If they're going to do it, then they're going to do it.. there is nothing we can do to stop them

Not that I agree with invading people's privacy, but it really doesn't bother me. What will they do with my information? As long as they aren't contacting me just to criticize me on what I do on my phone, I really don't care.

 

Exactly the same feelings I have.

I highly doubt government has enough employees to follow every person and monitor all the email and conversations. I do suspect though that this may be used in case of a particular suspect. In The Wire (telling story, obviously, about monitoring) Baltimore cops tried extremely hard to listed to known drug dealer conversations. I imagine a device like that could help them.

 

There's another issue if we question the government officials' trustworthiness. But that has nothing to do with the device itself. 

What is privacy?

 

Everywhere we go, we are being watched by CCTV, we're being monitored, recorded and watched.. so does it really matter if the police has this stuff, it's not like our phone conversations were private anyways. If you have nothing to hide, then what's the big deal.

 

If they're going to do it, then they're going to do it.. there is nothing we can do to stop them

 

See that's what the problem is..

I don't need to have anything to hide to want my privacy & I like having it.. It's my right & gives me piece of mind knowing my rights aren't being violated, if you want to give up that right then all the power to you.

 

its still illegal you need a warrant if you are going to listen to anyones calls

its still illegal you need a warrant if you are going to listen to anyones calls

 

Yes, it may be illegal, but when has laws stopped anyone?

 

 

 

I have no problem with the tracking because I have nothing to hide. And if it protects our nation, I have no problem with it.

The problem with the logic of most people on this thread is that they are trusting people who have not just broken a law, but the supreme law of the land, to enforce laws and to protect them.

 

To me, the very core of this debate is that the government is getting a pass to break the law, simply because of an illusion of "public safety."

 

Being that the government is the entity that arrests, processes, fines, imprisons and kills people for breaking the law, the government should set an example by following the law at all times.

The problem with the logic of most people on this thread is that they are trusting people who have not just broken a law, but the supreme law of the land, to enforce laws and to protect them.

 

To me, the very core of this debate is that the government is getting a pass to break the law, simply because of an illusion of "public safety."

 

Being that the government is the entity that arrests, processes, fines, imprisons and kills people for breaking the law, the government should set an example by following the law at all times.

That'll never happen, the Government is above everyone, didn't you know?

The problem with the logic of most people on this thread is that they are trusting people who have not just broken a law, but the supreme law of the land, to enforce laws and to protect them.

 

To me, the very core of this debate is that the government is getting a pass to break the law, simply because of an illusion of "public safety."

 

Being that the government is the entity that arrests, processes, fines, imprisons and kills people for breaking the law, the government should set an example by following the law at all times.

And let many criminals get away in process.

And let many criminals get away in process.

So your plan is to fight crime by committing crime?

So your plan is to fight crime by committing crime?

No, if you can guarantee that there's a way to get them all without violating our rights.