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Maybe shooting at the car was a tad bit excessive, but

The trooper again pulls the woman over and yells for her to get out of the car several times before reaching into the minivan to try and pull her out.

It's clearly the woman who is at fault here for endangering her kids in this way. She's even been charged with child endangerment

The mother is charged with child abuse and fleeing as well as misdemeanor possession of drug paraphernalia.

Of course, the police is investigating the shooting (as is protocol with all shootings) and it's still pending review. We'll have to see what the verdict is, but this is what I think.

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It looks like the officer who fired the shots was one of the backup officers. In his defense he was probably unaware of the children in the vehicle, going by what he heard on the radio and saw when he rolled up, he probably assumed the officer was in trouble and decided to take action. Watching the video back, it doesn't look like any of the shots hit the van itself. Perhaps he was going for the tires or firing warning shots near the vehicle. 

 

We won't really know why the officer fired the shots until more information is released. 

 

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Jesus Fucking Christ! Can we please just stop with this shit! Being from New Mexico does not help. Anyways, a source says that the Officer who fired the shots will not face any charges. The officer was in fact aiming for the tires. And surprising enough, the officers bought the other kids McD's afterwards.

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Wow After seeing this video i ask myself why would a parent Put there kids endanger by running.

 

1) This could have been all avoided if she just accept the ticket and fight it in court.

 

2) by law a officer can Command you out of your vehicle no matter what....

 

3) If you having a issue with a officer. Its best to Request another officer on since or supervisor to handle the issue! or just go in front of the judge. a  speeding ticket is nothing to go to jail for.

 

4) once you see your kid trying to attack the police officer . the mother is the one that Provoke the chain cause if she just listen to the cop and not ran back into the car and resisting the officers orders . now those lods are gonna are gonna have a bad idea of the cops now.. ont op if the  14 year old kid have a record

 

5) as for the 1 cop shooting it seemes he was aiming for the tires as he didnt blindly shoot. by the angle and position he got into . you can see he is trying to take the tires out.... maybe..  No I dont think he should have use this weapon. i believe he was to much caught up in his officers jumping back, and the lady running and he panic at the last action.

 

6) the officer that was on his own before back up showed up did everything fine. the video Fully shows he was calm untill the lady started to resist his orders....

 

 

So in overall in what i think is ! the mother is Clearly a Dumb*** for running and could have taken the ticket and went about her way! instead her action cause a chain event and trigger 3 crimes for no reason from speeding ticket to Evading a officer , Endangering Childs life, and her son Charge with Assault to police officer....  again the back up  officer did Over react and dont think he should lose his job.... in the video you didn;t see the windows get hit or the trunk i think he was trying to take out the tires so the pursuit can end quickly.. and on top of that.. Didnt seem he knew there was kids in the vehicle... so please keep that in mind!..

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Aiming for the tires: Because CLEARLY the situation justified the use of lethal force.

For those saying he's backup: If you don't know what's going on, you shouldn't shoot. Whenever you fire a gun, you should have an idea of what's in the area you're shooting at. Firing a gun at tires of an occupied car is already automatically violating most of the rules of gun safety: if there's no imminent threat to life, you don't shoot a gun, period.

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Aiming for the tires: Because CLEARLY the situation justified the use of lethal force.

For those saying he's backup: If you don't know what's going on, you shouldn't shoot. Whenever you fire a gun, you should have an idea of what's in the area you're shooting at. Firing a gun at tires of an occupied car is already automatically violating most of the rules of gun safety: if there's no imminent threat to life, you don't shoot a gun, period.

Adding onto this, firing at tires add the risk of the bullets ricocheting off the ground and hitting an innocent bystander.

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Adding onto this, firing at tires add the risk of the bullets ricocheting off the ground and hitting an innocent bystander.

It didn't look like there were any innocent bystanders in the area at the time but given a different environment I would totally agree with you

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The officer had no right to shoot at the vehicle, regardless if he knew what was going on or not. While possibly leading police on a high speed pursuit will put many lives in danger, trying to prevent it by shooting at the vehicle without knowing who was inside is still wrong. It was a bad decision in the heat of the moment that thankfully did not have fatal results. I don't think he should lose his job, but he should be punished in a way that will improve his decision making in the future. Unless, of course, the officer has some sort of bad history in the police.

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I find both parties to be at fault.  The mother should never have tried to flee (especially at 100+ mph), and the officer should never have employed the use of lethal force.  Also, the other officer shouldn't have started smashing the window with his nightstick.

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I feel like the title "Police shoot minivan full of kids" is a tad bit misleading. Another thing to note is that obviously the police wouldn't have known that there were other people in the vehicle, as is the case in most pursuits that start because of a person trying to evade police. One last thing to mention is that the mother will be held at fault for endangering the lives of whoever else was in the vehicle because of her at the moment actions. The officer should not be hated on and abused because of what he was trained to do in this kind of a scenario.

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The mother looks really weird, like she never heard of police, obeying the lawful order of an official and all that stuff, you know, it's called the law. She was speeding, that;s not a capital offense, so pull over, take you ticket. have a disagreement? You can always explain it to the judge, because officers really aren't the ones who you should talk to. Instead she just leaves, and then tries to leave again, like no one is saying nothing and this is just a chit chat...

 

The officer is no better. Instead of trying to calm her down, he acts too aggressive, and this actually might have frightened her. Finally, smashing the window was very strange, I never heard of any regulation which recommend an officer to smash someone's car as a way to convince him to stop. The shots are so out of place, that I'm not even gonna duscuss them.

 

Finally, this backup unit could have just blocked her van with their car to prevent her from fleeing.

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He smashed the windows because he had no idea what was going on behind those dark tinted windows.  The cop was just assaulted by the son, whom then jumped back into the mini van and locked the doors.  You bet that cop is going to break out the windows.  Also, for all he knows those kids are being kidnapped or there are armed folks in the back...who knows!  Gotta find out though don't ya if your a cop. 

 

That's not the issue, the issue is the cop shooting at the car, which was stupid.  Other than that, everything else was justified and I'm sure the courts will find this assertion correct as well.

 

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