Is anybody tired of getting the same models over and over because i know i am.

Crown Victorias all look the same. people are uploading a new one every other day.

i think we need a bigger variety of models.

Like: Trucks, Cars, ATV'S Motorcycles ext. 

Vote above if you agree/disagree.

Edited May 27, 201312 yr by TheLocalKing

People mod with what they have access to. Maybe if you were to provide them with unlocked models of the vehicles you want to see, they'd have more options. But right now, there is very little unlocked vehicles and most unlocked parts are optimized for the CVPI.

 

This is also in the wrong section.

 

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Well, fortunately, thanks to people like Compeast, UndercoverChicken or Bigfoot/Carface there has started appearing a bigger variety of the cars I like (do I have to say these are classics? lol), though I wish more people worked and were interested in these older vehicles to have an even bigger selection of classic vehicles (from trucks to 2dr interceptors, and different years).

well seeing how their are only so many different types of crown vics out there, and so many different kind of light bars. You can only make so many before they start over lapping one another. If your sick of "all the same models" Why don't you make some different ones?

Edited May 27, 201312 yr by Darkangel

Obviously we all want new models and new cars, but as stated above, people have no access to these models. Then again, I don't know what you mean by "Variety". If you mean other types of vehicles that are not your average day police vehicles.. than I'm against that. ie: A 2001 Honda accord Police edition

 

If you want to see variety than make them yourself. I don't mean to be rude here, but people put a lot of time into making that "Crown Victoria that looks the same". In fact, not all crown vics look alike. That's why we see a lot of crown vics or chargers, because they are all unique. Some may have the same equipment or lighting, but they are all different in some way.

 

If you want to see more models, than be my guest and make us some.

Alright when you make the UNLOCKED: Trucks, Cars, ATV'S Motorcycles ext. 

 

Lots of people will be happy to make new mods

People mod with what they have access to. Maybe if you were to provide them with unlocked models of the vehicles you want to see, they'd have more options. But right now, there is very little unlocked vehicles and most unlocked parts are optimized for the CVPI.

 

I am sorry sir but it isn't necessary for them to keep modding Crown Victorias only because they are available unlocked. Just in the same way as every other person on this planet doesn't keep mining because there are a lot of natural resources deep inside. Except for the fact that latter requires way more effort and patience than sticking lighbars onto a car.

Edited May 28, 201312 yr by LucaDiablo

People *do* keep mining because there are natural resources and people want them. Not sure what world you live in where that doesn't happen. Likewise, people want Crown Vics in general (because they're a common police car), and people can make them easily. What's the issue with that? Why is it inherently bad to assemble unlocked parts into a new configuration? Just because some people learned to model when there weren't many unlocked parts, why's that make it bad to use them now that they're available?

People mod with what they have access to. Maybe if you were to provide them with unlocked models of the vehicles you want to see, they'd have more options. 

 

How about they stop being lazy and learn how to make/convert their own? If modding worked under your opinion, we'd still be working with Rockstar's models because noone was "provided" any other unlocked models.

 

Honestly, it sounds so ridiculous, "spoonfeed me, I don't want to do any of the work."

It's nothing personal, just my opinion.

People *do* keep mining because there are natural resources and people want them. Not sure what world you live in where that doesn't happen. Likewise, people want Crown Vics in general (because they're a common police car), and people can make them easily. What's the issue with that? Why is it inherently bad to assemble unlocked parts into a new configuration? Just because some people learned to model when there weren't many unlocked parts, why's that make it bad to use them now that they're available?

 

Like I said in the other topic, try and read what people have written.

 

I said, not everybody on this planet keeps mining. A handful of people do that work, because:

1) There are many more things to do than just sticking lightbars or mining coal

2) Its good to leave a work to some people who are good at it. Why do something when you can see you're not doing it any better? Different people have different skills. Not everybody needs to jump in do what others are doing.

Like I said, I do read what people wrote. How does it hurt you in any way that other people model? Why must you crusade against people sticking together unlocked parts? Why must modding be exclusive? There's no safety risk in modeling, unlike mining.

Like I said, I do read what people wrote. How does it hurt you in any way that other people model? Why must you crusade against people sticking together unlocked parts? Why must modding be exclusive? There's no safety risk in modeling, unlike mining.

 

Safety is not the only concern. Output quality is too. Can't say if that matters for you or not, but it does for me and many others. I'd love to see whats your reaction if every other car company start selling Crown Victoria lookalikes under their name. Innovation is what keeps this world alive.

Safety is not the only concern. Output quality is too. Can't say if that matters for you or not, but it does for me and many others. I'd love to see whats your reaction if every other car company start selling Crown Victoria lookalikes under their name. Innovation is what keeps this world alive.

And in what way does it hurt you if people throw together unlocked parts? Why must you crusade against that?

Oh, and if new car companies started that bought the rights to the Crown Vic and tweaked it in various ways? Great! That works too! If people buy them, it proves they're filling a market need, so it's actually a good thing - it means people prefer those cars to what we have now. It's not like that would stop you from making other new cars, unless everyone preferred the Crown Vic lookalikes to your car - in which case, sorry, but no one cares how much work you put in. If everyone prefers Crown Vic knockoffs to your car, you go out of business, because you're making something useless from an economic standpoint. People don't want it. Economic value doesn't come from the effort put in, it comes from the fact that others want the product.

This is different still - there's no "going out of business". There is no expensive assembly line you must maintain. Even if other people like CVPI lookalikes, you can still go on making your cars - you won't go bankrupt.

I am sorry sir but it isn't necessary for them to keep modding Crown Victorias only because they are available unlocked. Just in the same way as every other person on this planet doesn't keep mining because there are a lot of natural resources deep inside. Except for the fact that latter requires way more effort and patience than sticking lighbars onto a car.

  

How about they stop being lazy and learn how to make/convert their own? If modding worked under your opinion, we'd still be working with Rockstar's models because noone was "provided" any other unlocked models.

 

Honestly, it sounds so ridiculous, "spoonfeed me, I don't want to do any of the work."

It's nothing personal, just my opinion.

Funny, I don't see any files from either of you. Maybe you should get started on mods you want to see. It would surely be more effective than complaining about it on a forum.

Alright, I agree that there are a lot of CVPI's out there and yes there are a lot being uploaded to the site. The reason they all look the same is because all these new "modelers" are just importing parts that import directly into place or ones that can be placed with little effort. Then you end up with another CVPI with a go-rhino and a Liberty. I've been taking a lot of time lately to scratch make new parts just so that my cars have some variety and new lighting modules on them. That way I'm not adding to the list of 100 CVPIs with Libertys. OP, you say you want a variety of cars, new cars, well you don't understand how hard it is to get those cars. The very few people who have them are not giving them out to just anyone. Plus some have mentioned converting, I don't think you realize how long and how much work it takes to convert something. This is another big reason why you don't see every modeler converting cars. In the end, modelers, experienced or not, are going to make what they want to make. You can post about it and complain all day long but the only true way to get the models you want is to make them yourself. I'm not going to join in on the little war thats started here but I do agree with LucaDiablo on some of his points

Alright, I agree that there are a lot of CVPI's out there and yes there are a lot being uploaded to the site. The reason they all look the same is because all these new "modelers" are just importing parts that import directly into place or ones that can be placed with little effort. Then you end up with another CVPI with a go-rhino and a Liberty. I've been taking a lot of time lately to scratch make new parts just so that my cars have some variety and new lighting modules on them. That way I'm not adding to the list of 100 CVPIs with Libertys. OP, you say you want a variety of cars, new cars, well you don't understand how hard it is to get those cars. The very few people who have them are not giving them out to just anyone. Plus some have mentioned converting, I don't think you realize how long and how much work it takes to convert something. This is another big reason why you don't see every modeler converting cars. In the end, modelers, experienced or not, are going to make what they want to make. You can post about it and complain all day long but the only true way to get the models you want is to make them yourself. I'm not going to join in on the little war thats started here but I do agree with LucaDiablo on some of his points

 

I agree with what you said Nickie, If people who want to comment and say how they want more variety of vehicles, take a look again.... It isnt easy for us Modders to get what we have unlocked. One by one all the experienced modders are leaving.... aznairsoftdude is one. Kevin left LCPDFR. EVI has released his last car a CVPI. I cant see why people want to comment on how we modders are producing any new variety of vehicles. especially those who have not even do mods. For example I have mentioned about the Ford Expedition and its irritating how people comment and say I am not even doing it. For me I jumped straight to scratch modeling. Patience is a Virtue and I have a freaking LIFE too.... Thanks. 

One by one all the experienced modders are leaving.... aznairsoftdude is one. Kevin left LCPDFR. EVI has released his last car a CVPI.

Kevin still creates and releases mods, EVI works on cars and plans to release as well. Lt.Caine and Bxbugs are releasing again, only aznairsoftdude left, but not because too many guys released CVPIs. It just seems like I'm not the only one who took a break.

 

Its good to leave a work to some people who are good at it. Why do something when you can see you're not doing it any better? Different people have different skills. Not everybody needs to jump in do what others are doing.

And how do you gain skills? Only by experience. Modding is supposed to be fun, not everybody has to create high quality mods. My first mod was an Admiral with box lights I modeled and a completely screwed handling. Telling somebody to stop working on a model, just because one person says it's low quality, is wrong, how else do you learn?

 

 

For those guys who want to use different vehicles: Three possibilities, all of them mentioned before:

1. Find a modder who creates it. (Likely impossible)

2. Model or convert it yourself.

3. Forget about it.

 

Most departments use CVPI, and as most people try to recreate cars they like, you'll have a lot CVPI models. And apart from the typical "first-mod" thing, CVPI with Liberty and GoRhino, you won't find a lot variants of the exactly same car. If somebody now thinks about NYPD or LAPD, they're actually all different. We now have three CVPI models with probably 5 templates, there're so many different lightbars, so many ways to setup patterns, they have to be different.

And what's wrong with using unlocked models? The most things I use are either models from friends or small things I made myself. I don't like converting at all, I've converted an Impala, that's it. But, and that seems to be the difference, I edit a model until I'm happy with it. If somebody gives me a Tahoe, an Interceptor or a Charger and I notice something doesn't work the way it's supposed to, I don't say yeah, the original author did it wrong, I try to fix it. But if there're wrong normals like with the 2013 Charger hood, what is nearly impossible to fix without the actual working model, you have to live with it. If somebody doesn't like it, he'll have to use a different model. If there're no alternatives, well, that sucks then. Then you'll have to go back to the three possibilites mentioned above.

 

Critics are important, for any kind of creative work. If you see something is wrong, tell the author. If he changes it, you're lucky, if not, ignore it. And I'm talking about small changes, not a different model or whatever. An author usually knows what he's trying to create.

It seems like beginners recieve two kinds of input: People saying it's exactly what they were waiting for and other guys complaining about the fact only unlocked models have been used. Well, and then somebody tries to model his own lights and everybody complains it's just a box.

 

 

Long story short: Everybody makes what he wants to, but with their limited possibilities. If you don't like it, don't use it and don't complain. Doesn't matter if you make mods yourself or not.

 Except for the fact that latter requires way more effort and patience than sticking lighbars onto a car.

 

+ 100 billion

Kevin still creates and releases mods, EVI works on cars and plans to release as well. Lt.Caine and Bxbugs are releasing again, only aznairsoftdude left, but not because too many guys released CVPIs. It just seems like I'm not the only one who took a break.

 

And how do you gain skills? Only by experience. Modding is supposed to be fun, not everybody has to create high quality mods. My first mod was an Admiral with box lights I modeled and a completely screwed handling. Telling somebody to stop working on a model, just because one person says it's low quality, is wrong, how else do you learn?

 

 

For those guys who want to use different vehicles: Three possibilities, all of them mentioned before:

1. Find a modder who creates it. (Likely impossible)

2. Model or convert it yourself.

3. Forget about it.

 

Most departments use CVPI, and as most people try to recreate cars they like, you'll have a lot CVPI models. And apart from the typical "first-mod" thing, CVPI with Liberty and GoRhino, you won't find a lot variants of the exactly same car. If somebody now thinks about NYPD or LAPD, they're actually all different. We now have three CVPI models with probably 5 templates, there're so many different lightbars, so many ways to setup patterns, they have to be different.

And what's wrong with using unlocked models? The most things I use are either models from friends or small things I made myself. I don't like converting at all, I've converted an Impala, that's it. But, and that seems to be the difference, I edit a model until I'm happy with it. If somebody gives me a Tahoe, an Interceptor or a Charger and I notice something doesn't work the way it's supposed to, I don't say yeah, the original author did it wrong, I try to fix it. But if there're wrong normals like with the 2013 Charger hood, what is nearly impossible to fix without the actual working model, you have to live with it. If somebody doesn't like it, he'll have to use a different model. If there're no alternatives, well, that sucks then. Then you'll have to go back to the three possibilites mentioned above.

 

Critics are important, for any kind of creative work. If you see something is wrong, tell the author. If he changes it, you're lucky, if not, ignore it. And I'm talking about small changes, not a different model or whatever. An author usually knows what he's trying to create.

It seems like beginners recieve two kinds of input: People saying it's exactly what they were waiting for and other guys complaining about the fact only unlocked models have been used. Well, and then somebody tries to model his own lights and everybody complains it's just a box.

 

 

Long story short: Everybody makes what he wants to, but with their limited possibilities. If you don't like it, don't use it and don't complain. Doesn't matter if you make mods yourself or not.

 

Yeah. aznairsoftdude told me why he chose to leave. And I have read Kevin's post. 

 

I agree with what you say. We modders do what we want to do.

And how do you gain skills? Only by experience. Modding is supposed to be fun, not everybody has to create high quality mods. My first mod was an Admiral with box lights I modeled and a completely screwed handling. Telling somebody to stop working on a model, just because one person says it's low quality, is wrong, how else do you learn?

 

 

Alright, your first mod was shitty. But do you realize what level your skills are now? The 'modders' you're defending don't upgrade theirs like you did, dude.