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41 minutes ago, Xenith said:

The title says it all. Condition is unknown, but either way we thank him for committing the ultimate sacrifice. #ThinBlueLine

http://fox2now.com/2016/07/08/report-officer-shot-in-ballwin-manhunt-underway/ 

:) I think whats happening is that as a result of 3 bone headed incompetent police officers. All police will have to suffer. Sad but that's gist of it. Like Malcolm X said "its a case of the chickens coming home to roost".

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4 hours ago, NYPDDetectiveODonnell said:

:) I think whats happening is that as a result of 3 bone headed incompetent police officers. All police will have to suffer. Sad but that's gist of it. Like Malcolm X said "its a case of the chickens coming home to roost".

While that is true, imagine having to live with the fact that something you did caused a terrorist attack. I certainly wouldn't be able to.

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5 hours ago, NYPDDetectiveODonnell said:

:) I think whats happening is that as a result of 3 bone headed incompetent police officers. All police will have to suffer. Sad but that's gist of it. Like Malcolm X said "its a case of the chickens coming home to roost".

 

Oh lord, not you again, the amount of disrespect in this comment is unbelievable, PLEASE tell me you're not still considering becoming a cop. 

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8 hours ago, NYPDDetectiveODonnell said:

:) I think whats happening is that as a result of 3 bone headed incompetent police officers. All police will have to suffer. Sad but that's gist of it. Like Malcolm X said "its a case of the chickens coming home to roost".

You may want to consider re-wording this post. I think I understand what you are trying to say, but the confusing sentence structure is completely changing the meaning.

What I think you are saying is that this event is due to the mistakes of other police officers, and because of their mistakes, all police will unfortunately have to suffer. What it seems like you are saying is that all police must suffer because of the mistakes of other officers, as if you are condoning violence against police officers.

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The officer is alive. He's in critical, but stable condition. Hopefully he pulls through.

9 hours ago, Requiem said:

Can we like, stop killing each other? 

Wouldn't that be wonderful? But no, not in our lifetime.

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6 hours ago, SkillfulCorpse said:

While that is true, imagine having to live with the fact that something you did caused a terrorist attack. I certainly wouldn't be able to.

I wouldn't either. This has gotten way out of hand, If I were president I would shut all police departments down for six months and let the army defend the country. This way police officers will begin to understand just how it feels to be a citizen/normal person for a change. and then maybe they'll learn that their badge is not a special power  and they're not superhuman.  While I am saddened by the loss of life. I am not surprised at the results infact, I am quite proud of my people #imblackandproud. America bled for the sake of respect and liberty, and so shall we. GIVE US LIBERTY OR GIVE US DEATH.

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10 minutes ago, NYPDDetectiveODonnell said:

I wouldn't either. This has gotten way out of hand, If I were president I would shut all police departments down for six months and let the army defend the country. This way police officers will begin to understand just how it feels to be a citizen/normal person for a change. and then maybe they'll learn that their badge is not a special power  and they're not superhuman.  While I am saddened by the loss of life. I am not surprised at the results infact, I am quite proud of my people #imblackandproud. America bled for the sake of respect and liberty, and so shall we. GIVE US LIBERTY OR GIVE US DEATH.

What the flying fuck are you smoking? Martial law? Really?

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3 hours ago, NYPDDetectiveODonnell said:

I wouldn't either. This has gotten way out of hand, If I were president I would shut all police departments down for six months and let the army defend the country. This way police officers will begin to understand just how it feels to be a citizen/normal person for a change. and then maybe they'll learn that their badge is not a special power  and they're not superhuman.  While I am saddened by the loss of life. I am not surprised at the results infact, I am quite proud of my people #imblackandproud. America bled for the sake of respect and liberty, and so shall we. GIVE US LIBERTY OR GIVE US DEATH.

Let me start off by saying that it's an honor to have a celebrity (not a politician) like you visit our forum board Mr. Trump, thank you for taking the time.

However, a large portion of police officers are either former military or active duty military, so doing that wouldn't have the intended effect. Also, all police officers are civilians. They're civilians from the time they clock out until the time they clock back in for their next shift, and they run the same risks of being pulled over, or robbed, or assaulted, or shot, or hit by a car, etc. as the rest of us do when they're not in uniform. Some of those risks actually increase while on duty, in fact, but I shouldn't need to tell you that, right Detective?

And yes, Malcom X said some thought provoking things. But he also said "All praise due to the honorable Muhammad.", a conquering war lord who spread Islam by the sword and had a child for a wife and supported slavery. So not everything he said was great.
 

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8 hours ago, Illusionyary said:

What the flying fuck are you smoking? Martial law? Really?

Nope Kyre' Law. And the purpose would be aiming to restore a positive relationship between civilians and police. As far as Martial law is concerned, well I'd rather that than a police state any day.

4 hours ago, unr3al said:

Let me start off by saying that it's an honor to have a celebrity (not a politician) like you visit our forum board Mr. Trump, thank you for taking the time.

However, a large portion of police officers are either former military or active duty military, so doing that wouldn't have the intended effect. Also, all police officers are civilians. They're civilians from the time they clock out until the time they clock back in for their next shift, and they run the same risks of being pulled over, or robbed, or assaulted, or shot, or hit by a car, etc. as the rest of us do when they're not in uniform. Some of those risks actually increase while on duty, in fact, but I shouldn't need to tell you that, right Detective?

And yes, Malcom X said some thought provoking things. But he also said "All praise due to the honorable Muhammad.", a conquering war lord who spread Islam by the sword and had a child for a wife and supported slavery. So not everything he said was great.
 

"All praise due to the honorable Muhammad.", a conquering war lord who spread Islam by the sword and had a child for a wife and supported slavery. So not everything he said was great.

 

:) I have never heard Malcolm X say these words. As a former member of he Nation of Islam under the leadership of the honorable Louis Farrakhan, and the Most honorable Elijah Muhammad, I believe the correct saying is

"In the Name of Allah the Beneficent the Merciful, All praises due  Allah lord of all the worlds, I bare witness that there is no GOD but Allah, the one who came to us in the person of Master Farad Muhammad and raised up the honorable Elijah Muhammad" 

Lastly  A blue uniform is no excuse not to do your job correctly, what is the  Explanation for these two incompetent police officers did? You tell a man to reach for his I.D. and when he did you murder him? how did he get pass the physiological exam?  No we must fight fire with fire that is the only way. We have to put fear in America the way 13 colonies put fear to the British empire. No more Marching holding hands, or tough words, its time for us to grab our AR15 and tell congress that: "If you dont do something about this, we will. WE ARE FED UP  with a broken injustice system and crooked police who use that to their advantage 

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14 hours ago, NYPDDetectiveODonnell said:

:) I have never heard Malcolm X say these words

I've never personally heard Malcom X sing happy birthday to one of his kids, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. There are countless documentaries on him, and lots of literature. I'd take a look at some of that stuff. If you wish to hold up Malcom X as a model on how to live a good life and be a peaceful person, you need to first look at his life in its totality. He started out as a career criminal, who only converted to Islam once he wound up in jail, as many African Americans do. After that, he was largely anti-white and was not the peace loving, brotherly person he was towards the end of his life before being killed. I'm glad that he eventually grew into a person who cared for all, but it didn't happen overnight, and he's not the Tiger Woods of compassion, so to speak. Nobody should model their life after his.
 

14 hours ago, NYPDDetectiveODonnell said:

Lastly  A blue uniform is no excuse not to do your job correctly, what is the  Explanation for these two incompetent police officers did?

You'll have to ask the officer who fired the shots that question, or wait for his trial to hear a lawyer ask him. I'd put my money on the Hispanic officer who shot the African American man with a valid CCW permit on being overly nervous and not fit for the job. That doesn't make him a cold blooded murderer, contrary to what you, BLM advocates or other internet trolls might say. Unfortunately it does make him somebody who committed a homicide, as the definition of the word 'homicide' means death at the hands of another; and the officer will have to pay for it. The guy selling CD's who got shot prior to that incident on the other hand; isn't so cut and dry. Much like Eric Garner and other false martyrs in what has become a war on authority; he was painted to be a great person who wouldn't harm a fly. Then they discovered that he had a concealed gun on him. Then they discovered upon further review of the camera footage that one of his arms seems to dip to one side of his body where it is not visible, possibly towards the direction of the gun. Both of these killings likely could have been avoided had different officers handled them, and had the CD "salesman" not been carrying a concealed gun on him he had no business carrying; but things did not work out that way I'm sorry to say. On a more positive note however, think of all of the thousands of traffic stops that happen each day where people don't get shot and killed. My own mother was pulled over last week, and she's still alive, and better still; didn't receive a citation. Unfortunately, that didn't make the national news or get recorded on a cell phone camera.

 

14 hours ago, NYPDDetectiveODonnell said:

No we must fight fire with fire that is the only way. We have to put fear in America the way 13 colonies put fear to the British empire. No more Marching holding hands, or tough words, its time for us to grab our AR15 and tell congress that: "If you dont do something about this, we will. WE ARE FED UP  with a broken injustice system and crooked police who use that to their advantage 

The idea that average Americans are going to fight the U.S. government and military is ridiculous. AR-15's aren't going to do anything against armored ground vehicles and air power. Put that stupid fantasy to bed. This is not 1776, it's 2016. You're advocating for the same kind of murder you claim to be against.

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3 minutes ago, unr3al said:

and he's not the Tiger Woods of compassion, so to speak.

Why did I laugh so hard at this? Couldn't let this joke go unappreciated

Also, this is largely irrelevant but Eric Garner didn't have a gun. Think you're mixing up your victims (human mistake).

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23 hours ago, NYPDDetectiveODonnell said:

I wouldn't either. This has gotten way out of hand, If I were president I would shut all police departments down for six months and let the army defend the country. This way police officers will begin to understand just how it feels to be a citizen/normal person for a change. and then maybe they'll learn that their badge is not a special power  and they're not superhuman.  While I am saddened by the loss of life. I am not surprised at the results infact, I am quite proud of my people #imblackandproud. America bled for the sake of respect and liberty, and so shall we. GIVE US LIBERTY OR GIVE US DEATH.

You aim to solve the problem by removing the people who are trained to enforce laws and protect the public and replace them with a nervous 18 year old straight out of BMT with bigger and badder guns? Not to mention that if your insane plan was implmented what is to stop a soldier with an undiagnosed mental health issue deciding "Know what I'm up for some target practice" and opening up on other people? 

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3 hours ago, Riley24 said:

Also, this is largely irrelevant but Eric Garner didn't have a gun. Think you're mixing up your victims (human mistake).

No, I was just pointing out that Eric is portrayed as an innocent martyr, as are other victims of these police shootings when in fact they weren't nice, innocent guys who did absolutely nothing wrong.

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