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The UKs war on the porn industry

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Honestly don't know why so many people are offended by porn. Sex is natural, we all love it (well, unless you have a reason not too) it's a human thing to do and is considered physically and mentally healthy. Watching porn doesn't hurt anyone, girls/men sign themselves up for it and often they get a good hefty pay. Of course there is porn I even disagree with like reenactment of rape and such but, IF and only IF the girl/man is fine with the scene, they like it or whatever, then really, it's not that bad.

 

As long as what's in the video is legal (apparently female ejaculation isn't........................ but I'm talking about bestiality, pain and all that good stuff) then why shouldn't people be able to produce/watch it? If you get offended by it, just don't watch it and bugger off? Complaining is just going to knock things out of kilter and cause more problems then solve them.

 

I think a lot of the things that happen in porn that the every day male gets aroused by most average women won't do such and not limited to

- Deepthroating.

- Cumshot on the face.

- Anal.

- Even just blowjobs (most women don't even like doing that)

- Getting on her knees to suck you off is domination & makes the male feel more in control.

 

There ARE some weird ass shit on the net that weird people get off on, golden showers, getting wanked off on by 100+ guys...

There are too many different categories to just go through & ban those particular ones because every scene done may fall under a different category & you can't just tell people how they can have sex, just isn't fun & takes away from the fantasy.

My opinion on porn? I'm not against it one bit but there are people that take it too far as if they want to fully re-enact a sexual fantasy of that of what they just watched.

It definitely objectifies ALL women, but I won't lie, some of the most intense/beautiful women I've seen do porn.

95% of women are boring in the sack.. I've had my share of boring & exciting experiences.

How I feel about it if it doesn't directly effect your life STFU & move on.

 

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You seem to be missing the point. I did not at any point say that porn turns men into rapists and I didn't even mention GTA.

 

Your comparison with GTA is completely invalid. For it to be a comparison, people would have to be looking at GTA as an example of how to behave in real life, which everyone knows it is not. Also, the acts committed within GTA are very extreme and involve murder.

 

Teenagers are curious. They look at porn as a way to discover what sex is like. They do not turn on the playstation and play GTA looking to understand how the real world is.

 

However, no one tells teenagers that porn is unrealistic, as so they believe that it is actually how they should behave.

 

Yet again it comes back to parenting. If a teenager is learning about sex from porn than the real issue is a lack of parenting and education. And now a days children are taught sex ed in elementary school so how can you say that teenagers are just learning about sex by watching porn? And yet again Porn is not intended for teenagers so they assume their audience is mature enough to understand that porn is purely entertainment and that everyone involved is acting. 

I think a lot of the things that happen in porn that the every day male gets aroused by most average women won't do such and not limited to

- Deepthroating.

- Cumshot on the face.

- Anal.

- Even just blowjobs (most women don't even like doing that)

- Getting on her knees to suck you off is domination & makes the male feel more in control.

 

There ARE some weird ass shit on the net that weird people get off on, golden showers, getting wanked off on by 100+ guys...

There are too many different categories to just go through & ban those particular ones because every scene done may fall under a different category & you can't just tell people how they can have sex, just isn't fun & takes away from the fantasy.

My opinion on porn? I'm not against it one bit but there are people that take it too far as if they want to fully re-enact a sexual fantasy of that of what they just watched.

It definitely objectifies ALL women, but I won't lie, some of the most intense/beautiful women I've seen do porn.

95% of women are boring in the sack.. I've had my share of boring & exciting experiences.

How I feel about it if it doesn't directly effect your life STFU & move on.

 

This.

Yet again it comes back to parenting. If a teenager is learning about sex from porn than the real issue is a lack of parenting and education. And now a days children are taught sex ed in elementary school so how can you say that teenagers are just learning about sex by watching porn? And yet again Porn is not intended for teenagers so they assume their audience is mature enough to understand that porn is purely entertainment and that everyone involved is acting. 

At no point did they say that they are "just" learning about sex via porn.

 

Sex ed teaches how to use a condom and what masturbation is, but it definitely is not a real life demonstration and doesn't really even touch on the topic. 

 

But teenagers have access to porn nevertheless. It still influences them and it is therefore still a problem.

 

Also, you're not replying to half my points. I'm not going to continue this conversation with you if you're just going to ignore the points I've made which you are clearly proving to be correct.

It's okay, I speak french. Just send me the link.

 

Yeah but maybe you're not the only one interested. Sheesh, relax.

 

Here's the rough translation I made.

 

"The results of french research about squirting women (department of reproductive biology, cytogenetic and gynecology, city of Poissy)
 
Between September 2012 and May 2013, we invited several woman having regular squirting experiences to participate to our scientific study in order to localize sonographically the origine of the squirting emission and be able to analyze biochemically the liquid. At their arriving, all of them signed a MoU and had an  medical and sexology interrogation to be sure all the criterias of inclusion were gathered. Then, the participant went to urinate and a first sample was taken for biochemical analysis (B1). A first sonography (E1) allowed to verify the bladder was completely empty. After a self-stimulation leading to a satisfying sexual arousal, a sonography (E2) was realized to evaluate the pelvic organs and look for a fluid collection. After the squirting, a sample of the squirted fluid was collected (B2) and immediately after, a third sonography was made. Finally, a new spontaneous micturition was asked to the participant as soon as possible.
 
Results
 
7 women between 19 and 52 years old meeting the criterias of inclusion accepted to participate to the study. For all of them, the sonography E1 allowed to confirm that the bladder was indeed completely empty after micturition. The sonography E2 revealed that every participant had a variable filling of the bladder and no other fluid collection was identified. The third sonography after squirting revealed that the bladder was again completely empty. The 3 successive sonographies showed that the bladder plays a main role in the squirting mechanism. The biochemical analysis showed presence of urea, creatinine and uric acid in the 3 samples. Prostatic Specific Antigen was detected in the B2 and B3 samples for 5 of the 7 women while no one of them had Prostatic Specific Antigen in their urine for the B1 sample. For 2 of those women, there was no Prostatic Specific Antigen found even though they were identified as squirting women.
 
Conclusion
 
This experiment allows to confirm that the squirting comes from the bladder and that the liquid was mainly secreted by the kidneys. The prostate has a very accesory function. In 2011, Rubio Casillas showed on a woman, thanks to a catheterization of the female urethra, that there was actually 2 distinct and independant mechanisms: an emission of white fluid coming from the prostate (ejaculation), and an emission of urine coming from the bladder (squirting)."
 

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Okay, so the study was conducted with 7 people. Just 7 people of everyone in the whole wide world. That's some pretty reliable study right there.

 

Also, it's possible for women to leak urine when they climax. It's called "stress incontinence" and given the very low percentage of women who can actually ejaculate, it's more than likely that the majority of women who believe they are ejaculating are just leaking urine.

 

Also, up until quite recently, it was not believed that all women could orgasm, hence why there was very little support to help women who could not do so. Since then medical advances have proven that all women can indeed orgasm when in the right condition.

 

It's possible that there is not sufficient ability to realize that some women can indeed ejaculate, and the only way to prove it would be to observe it, which cannot take place since very low percentages can do it, and they may not wish to come forward.

 

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Okay, so the study was conducted with 7 people. Just 7 people of everyone in the whole wide world. That's some pretty reliable study right there.

Also, it's possible for women to leak urine when they climax. It's called "stress incontinence" and given the very low percentage of women who can actually ejaculate, it's more than likely that the majority of women who believe they are ejaculating are just leaking urine.

Also, up until quite recently, it was not believed that all women could orgasm, hence why there was very little support to help women who could not do so. Since then medical advances have proven that all women can indeed orgasm when in the right condition.

It's possible that there is not sufficient ability to realize that some women can indeed ejaculate, and the only way to prove it would be to observe it, which cannot take place since very low percentages can do it, and they may not wish to come forward.

Okay I edited my post, now do you see it? And yes I do agree with you on most points.

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Ray Machowski

This.

At no point did they say that they are "just" learning about sex via porn.

 

Sex ed teaches how to use a condom and what masturbation is, but it definitely is not a real life demonstration and doesn't really even touch on the topic. 

 

But teenagers have access to porn nevertheless. It still influences them and it is therefore still a problem.

 

Also, you're not replying to half my points. I'm not going to continue this conversation with you if you're just going to ignore the points I've made which you are clearly proving to be correct.

 

Im confused to what your argument is? I make a point and you state its invalid when it totally is if you going to say that a teenager watches porn and assumes that is how you have sex. Than its safe to assume that if a teenager plays GTA they will assume thats how you behave as a citizen. So what is the difference? They are both forms of entertainment so why cant they distinguish between what is wrong and right between the two? 

 

What points have you made? 

 

Does porn objectify woman? Perhaps, but porn is completely voluntary and you are payed quite well for what you do. So if its so objectifying why do women do it? Furthermore women are objectified everyday every been to hooters,winghouse,or twinpeaks? Idk whats more objectifying doing porn or walking around half naked while a room full of drunk guys hit on you and try to touch you? So if our society constantly objectives woman why do they volunteer  for this type of treatment. 

 

And the only point that matters is its entertainment! Kids learn about things alot sooner these days and i dont belive that when they watch porn they assume thats how sex should be. They are smarter and better than that. 

Well, a recent report showed that female ejaculation is actually urine. So it might be because of that.

 

*launches the "The More You Know" jingle*

 

I don't think that's necessarily true however, I've never experienced it first hand.

 

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I could reply to all of your points, but all I'm really going to say is, you over think stuff. Everyone knows, sex is about love and compassion. Whether or not they follow that is up to them. I myself don't really care what people do, but I for one can't stand when people get too deep.

 

You obviously believe that porn is creating a generation of teenagers, expecting non realistic things from sex. That happened before porn. Most people watch porn, male and females, we know the difference between porn and real sex. You seem to believe a lot of what you read rather then know or find out through your own experience, you go off statistics, 'facts'  and quotes from the internet. You gave me an example of the YouTube video, here's some for you. I too could find many other articles, I could probably find many on why pedophilia is alright. In this post however, it does say that since porn has become widely available, the number of teenage sexual offenses has dropped.

 

I lost my virginity to my girlfriend after we had been going out for around a year and a half, I wasn't expecting reverse cowgirl then to finish off in her mouth. Yes, it was after porn, what's the significance of that.

 

Porn is just porn and only porn, it's not effecting people like so many seem to believe, of course some people will see it and try to re-enact it, doesn't mean all teenagers do.

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I've cleaned this topic up immensely and removed all of the off-topic posts, memes, and those one-word replies that don't contribute to anything.  This thread did initially go way off topic, but it did right itself in the end.  This is an apparently popular debate topic, and one that I don't believe should be stifled yet since the community seems to enjoy debating about it.  Should this thread go off track again, it will be closed.

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Alright guys, the topic is open again, now that we have everything thing clear now. I'll go ahead and post my opinion: porn is not a right, so if the UK wants to ban it then oh well, while I've nothing against twelve years watching it (you know to get them introduced to sex) then that's fine, but if porn watching starts to become an addiction, you should get help. I also think that porn objectify women in a lot of ways, so there's a good reason as to why the UK is taking a stand against the industry. One thing that is undeniable is the billions of dollars that the porn industry ranks in every year.

"I'm a marked man, so I'm getting out of here"

 

Ray Machowski

if porn watching starts to become an addiction, you should get help. One thing that is undeniable is the billions of dollars that the porn industry ranks in every year.

 

What's the problem with someone watching a lot of porn? What if they've recently divorced? Can't find anyone? They're lonely? Perhaps there conscious of their selves. There are many different reasons for someone to watch constant porn, and a porn addiction is not related to a sex addiction.

 

And what's the significance of porn bringing in a large sum on money? So does the gun industry, so does the food market. Making money isn't a negative thing, nor does it prove in anyway porn is bad.

 

I didn't really understand the beginning of your post though. Are you saying porn is alright if you're not addicted, and you think porn should be shown the 12 year olds to introduce them to sex?

 

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What's the problem with someone watching a lot of porn? What if they've recently divorced? Can't find anyone? They're lonely? Perhaps there conscious of their selves. There are many different reasons for someone to watch constant porn, and a porn addiction is not related to a sex addiction.

 

And what's the significance of porn bringing in a large sum on money? So does the gun industry, so does the food market. Making money isn't a negative thing, nor does it prove in anyway porn is bad.

 

I didn't really understand the beginning of your post though. Are you saying porn is alright if you're not addicted, and you think porn should be shown the 12 year olds to introduce them to sex?

If they're "addicted" to porn (notice the keyword there), then there definitely is a massive problem.

 

Those addicted to porn often exhibit the following symptoms:

  • Antisocial (Finds excuses to stay at home instead of going to social/family gatherings)
  • The fact they watch porn (or the frequency) is kept a secret
  • They lose track of time (people have been known to not realize that 5 hours has passed)
  • It interferes with their sex life as well as their everyday life (porn is the first thing that they think about when they get home)
  • IRL sex is expected to be like a porno, when their partner cannot, or does not want this, they may get angry. 

 

As you said though, there's nothing wrong with watching a lot of porn, if that's what you wish to do, however if it becomes an addiction, and it affects you or others around you in the ways listed above, then yes, there's a serious problem.

 

I do not have a problem with the porn industry, I have watched it myself, however I think more should be done to limit exposure to those who are younger as it is obviously aimed at an older audience.

I don't condone porn - partly because it objectifies performers, and it's a taboo industry- but it is just a natural part of growing up. Trying to stifle producers can push an already underground industry into the Earth's core, and this could push performers into prostitution. As far as addiction goes, one of the best ways to avoid porn is putting a filter on porn sites yourself, for your own good.

I think it is ridiculous that a country would attempt to get rid of it. Does it harm anyone? No. It is simply a form of entertainment that seems to be needed in our society. Why should it be banned as long as children are not used or watch it. Pornography is for adult entertainment and I see nothing wrong with adults who want to watch this in the privacy of their own homes. Sex is a healthily activity that some need visual stimulation to help them enjoy it. No one forces any one to buy or make these films so why not have them? Personally I enjoy porn. I have had GFs that enjoyed it too. In fact we watched it together from time to time. Meaning that porn is not just for males, nor does it always have to be viewed alone. Just my 2 and 1/2 cents.

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What's the problem with someone watching a lot of porn? What if they've recently divorced? Can't find anyone? They're lonely? Perhaps there conscious of their selves. There are many different reasons for someone to watch constant porn, and a porn addiction is not related to a sex addiction.

And what's the significance of porn bringing in a large sum on money? So does the gun industry, so does the food market. Making money isn't a negative thing, nor does it prove in anyway porn is bad.

I didn't really understand the beginning of your post though. Are you saying porn is alright if you're not addicted, and you think porn should be shown the 12 year olds to introduce them to sex?

You're missing the point, as Tom stated if you become addicted to porn, it is a problem. I brought up the fact that the porn industry rakes up lots of money so people will see the benefit of not banning it. And I think it is alright to show a twelve year old pornagraphy just to get them introduced to sex and the ups and downs of sex.

"I'm a marked man, so I'm getting out of here"

 

Ray Machowski

You're missing the point, as Tom stated if you become addicted to porn, it is a problem. I brought up the fact that the porn industry rakes up lots of money so people will see the benefit of not banning it. And I think it is alright to show a twelve year old pornagraphy just to get them introduced to sex and the ups and downs of sex.

I agree with all of that, except from the last statement. Porn is unrealistic. It's nothing like real sex and should not be used as an example.

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I agree with all of that, except from the last statement. Porn is unrealistic. It's nothing like real sex and should not be used as an example.

You're right, porn is usually unrealistic, okay put it this way, if a child is caught watching porn, he/she shouldn't be punished for it but rather told that this is NOT real life.

"I'm a marked man, so I'm getting out of here"

 

Ray Machowski

You're right, porn is usually unrealistic, okay put it this way, if a child is caught watching porn, he/she shouldn't be punished for it but rather told that this is NOT real life.

I don't that that a child should be allowed to watch it after being caught. It's a negative influence on their susceptible minds.

 

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