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Not sure what laws regarding this topic are in other countries, but at least in the US LEAs now require a warrant to search your cell phone. Funny because I was just watching a COPS episode where the officer arrested a young girl and looked through her phone to find her dealer. 

 

Link: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/25/supreme-court-cellphone-search-privacy-arrest/10025923/

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  • Personally I hate laws like "You have the right to not be searched" Or "You do not have to show your ID". People that are all about laws piss cops off, I mean dont be that guy, and just show the cop y

  • But I care. Question, CriminalKillaz: Would you walk up to a stranger on the subway and tell them all your deepest secrets? The details of your relationships? I can guarantee you they won't care, so

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    Back in the day when the only warrant you needed was a badge, gun, and a foot to the door. Back when murders, rapists, molesters, ect. were looked aside from, so they could get a little one on one jus

Not sure what laws regarding this topic are in other countries, but at least in the US LEAs now require a warrant to search your cell phone. Funny because I was just watching a COPS episode where the officer arrested a young girl and looked through her phone to find her dealer. 

 

Link: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/25/supreme-court-cellphone-search-privacy-arrest/10025923/

 

Strongly disagree with this    as a citizen 

 

and 

 

some1 on the edge of going into Law Enforcement

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Keep you eye  on this thread ;-)

              
 https://www.lcpdfr.com/topic/43278-k-9-police-9-wip-rel-thread/

 

Strongly disagree with this    as a citizen 

 

and 

 

some1 on the edge of going into Law Enforcement

A phone is basically a miniature computer.

 

Police are required to get separate warrants for searching a home and searching a computer.

 

Why is there an issue with this?

Sticks and stones may break bones, but 5.56 fragments on impact.

Personally I hate laws like "You have the right to not be searched" Or "You do not have to show your ID". People that are all about laws piss cops off, I mean dont be that guy, and just show the cop your ID. Just my opinion though, Feedback?

 

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            iiKonrad

It isn't nearly a big enough deal as people will make it out to be. If someone is arrested their phone can be seized for the time being. That gives us plenty of time to get a search warrant, or in most cases, you just talk to their parole/probation officer. (If they have one). Cell phones are small computers, the difference between them is their portable. If they are on the person when they are arrested, the item can be seized by jail staff and given the circumstances you can apply for one later. Same would go for someone carrying a labtop around. The only thing this prevents is police looking through it right away, but in the end if we have reason to believe thetr is evidence on there, we will get in. Whether it's by a court ordered warrant, or the person's parole/probation officer.

 

On a side note, you realize cops episodes are extremely outdated. Often times by years. The article you posted also said police require a warrant to take blood from an individual if they refuse a breathalyzer. THat's completely false in my state. If you refuse blood in my state you'll get charged with refusal (charged in the same manner as DUI). So it will vary from state to state. I would know, I've had people not give me blood and they got two charges instead of one.

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Personally I hate laws like "You have the right to not be searched" Or "You do not have to show your ID". People that are all about laws piss cops off, I mean dont be that guy, and just show the cop your ID. Just my opinion though, Feedback?

 

  -Best Regards,

            iiKonrad

 

In all fairness, why should anyone give up their rights just so a cop can harass you for nothing? which does happen, why do they need to know who you are when, if you didn't break the law.

They can incriminate you & they do incriminate you, I respect them for the job they do, but I don't talk to them, when I'm on scene of a Motor Vehicle Accident with the RCMP or HRP, I ever speak to them when clearing debris, sure they leave us Tow Operators alone for the most part, but that's as far as that relationship goes, I've spoken to 1 Mountie about his new car at a head on collision while we waited for the victims husband & I've been towing for 2 years.

 

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In all fairness, why should anyone give up their rights just so a cop can harass you for nothing? which does happen, why do they need to know who you are when, if you didn't break the law.

They can incriminate you & they do incriminate you, I respect them for the job they do, but I don't talk to them, when I'm on scene of a Motor Vehicle Accident with the RCMP or HRP, I ever speak to them when clearing debris, sure they leave us Tow Operators alone for the most part, but that's as far as that relationship goes, I've spoken to 1 Mountie about his new car at a head on collision while we waited for the victims husband & I've been towing for 2 years.

 

 

"Harass you for nothing" I really dont think that they could harass you more with your ID than without. I'd just respect the cop's job, not waste time, and just give him your ID. If you've done nothing wrong; why not give your ID? Unless your lazy as F#&k that shouldn't be an issue. I dont want to turn this into an argument, but I would really like some more feedback. 

 

 

       Best Regards,

                    iiKonrad

A phone is basically a miniature computer.

 

Police are required to get separate warrants for searching a home and searching a computer.

 

Why is there an issue with this?

 

 

they have been able to stop bigger crime's and catch criminal's that may have gone undetected by going through the person's phone at the time of arrest

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https://www.lcpdfr.com/files/file/7083-liberty-city-based-on-seattle-10-part-1/   - Seattle Base
         
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Keep you eye  on this thread ;-)

              
 https://www.lcpdfr.com/topic/43278-k-9-police-9-wip-rel-thread/

 

If you've got nothing illegal to hide, why does it matter if they search your phone? What privacy do you need if you've been obeying the law? I doubt an officer is going to care about you breaking up with that girl, and that guy buying two Chipotle burrito bowls.

But I care.

Question, CriminalKillaz: Would you walk up to a stranger on the subway and tell them all your deepest secrets? The details of your relationships? I can guarantee you they won't care, so will that make it OK for you to do it? No? Why should someone know just because they have a badge and gun? Why does the state get to decide whether I have anything to hide? Why is wanting something to stay private somehow only something that takes place if it's illegal? You've said you're fine telling random strangers everything about yourself that doesn't implicate you in crimes; care to share some of that with us?

But I care.

Question, CriminalKillaz: Would you walk up to a stranger on the subway and tell them all your deepest secrets? The details of your relationships? I can guarantee you they won't care, so will that make it OK for you to do it? No? Why should someone know just because they have a badge and gun? Why does the state get to decide whether I have anything to hide? Why is wanting something to stay private somehow only something that takes place if it's illegal? You've said you're fine telling random strangers everything about yourself that doesn't implicate you in crimes; care to share some of that with us?

Well first off, I've noticed that you've misunderstood what I've said on a lot of different fronts. I never said that the state should get to bust in on my business. I never said that hiding something makes it illegal. I never said that because someone is an officer, they get to know everything about you. My point is, why does it matter so much that an officer knows whats on your cellular device. I personally haven't had any problems with law enforcement needing some kind of search warrant for my cell phone. Check my text messages, browsing history, call history, whatever you like. I have nothing to hide on my cell phone.

 

As far as sharing some personal information, sure I don't see why not. Sharing this information won't really harm me as much as giving out my house address or cell phone number would.

 

I'm 17. I plan on joining the military once I finish my final year of High school. Both of my parents are military veterans. My father's been to Iraq once, and Afghanistan twice on deployment. Though my country has it's share of problems, I love it and I'm willing to defend it with my life. I haven't had a girlfriend since I was 14 years old, and I'm a pretty big geek when it comes to video gaming and computers. Sometimes I act like I'm more financially well off then I actually am. I was afraid of the dark up until age 15. The list goes on and on really. I don't have any huge secrets, other then a password for an account or a secret crush. Something along those lines of severity to be completely sincere. 

they have been able to stop bigger crime's and catch criminal's that may have gone undetected by going through the person's phone at the time of arrest

Any examples that couldn't of waited for a warrant, which are issued far too much these days anyways?

Sticks and stones may break bones, but 5.56 fragments on impact.

Thanks for the warm welcome. Unfortunately the train for the old age doesn't seem like it's going to show up. It brought me here, and won't come to take me back.

Back in the day when the only warrant you needed was a badge, gun, and a foot to the door. Back when murders, rapists, molesters, ect. were looked aside from, so they could get a little one on one justice along with their life sentence to hell. Now you can't even tackle a suspect without getting sued for police brutality.

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Strongly disagree with this    as a citizen 

 

and 

 

some1 on the edge of going into Law Enforcement

 

This goes a long the lines of the whole NSA spying thing.

 

HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO TIME:

 

I may be an upstanding citizen and have a clean record and be law abiding. But lets say for whatever reason I'm legally detained  by the police, for lets say, making too much noise with a couple friends at my house. The police go through my phone and find personal/intimate/sexual/embarrassing/slanderous texts/pics/vids/emails. Just the simple fact that they've seen whatever it is on my phone is an invasion of my privacy. 

 

It's come a long way from simply having a flip phone with a few random texts or numbers. Now your whole identity and history can be found on your phone due to all the accounts that have to connect. 

 

This is coming from someone who is in Law Enforcement. 

I don't want any law enforcement group looking into my phone. If they do I want to see a warrant.

 

Cheers.

If you are not hiding anything why would you care so what if they see that you bought a new TV or something 

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