In the recent years climate change has had a devastating impact on our environment, from polar bears to trees climate change is a serious problem. in your guys opinion what do you think should be done to stop climate change or what should the government do to stop climate change?

 

 

here are some links:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2014/may/14/has-marco-rubio-backtracked-climate-change/ 

 

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/5/15/companies-cost-climatechange.html

 

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/14/climate-change-national-security_n_5323148.html

Man Made Climate Change-The idea that out of 4,540,000,000 years, on a planet that has gone from a sea of lava to worldwide tropics to multiple ice ages, research over 30 years, or .00000000660792952% of the time, has indicated that the activities of humans in about 200 years since industrialization, or .0000000440528634% of the time of Earth's life, have caused the temperature to increase by one degree.

 

Oh, and the sky is falling because of that.

Climate change and "global warming" is all just one big joke and lie....the earth has been around for 4.5 BILLION years and it has gone through MANY changes.....and humans have only been around for about 1 million years....so all this "research" that they talk about and how they are able to record the climate....I least likely doubt that they can say the climate is changing "super fast" from only a few years out of the many that the earth has been around...  

Man Made Climate Change-The idea that out of 4,540,000,000 years, on a planet that has gone from a sea of lava to worldwide tropics to multiple ice ages, research over 30 years, or .00000000660792952% of the time, has indicated that the activities of humans in about 200 years since industrialization, or .0000000440528634% of the time of Earth's life, have caused the temperature to increase by one degree.

 

We weren't around all that time though were we, and those things were natural occurrence which we cannot control, but have studied the effects of. In the space of time that we have been on this planet we've taken nearly everything it has to offer us, and we've ruined it.

 

In approximately 200 years from now we wont have any natural resources left to use, and the current rate that scientific technology is developing means we wont be around for much longer after. So what do you propose we do then really?

"oh I wont be alive then so it doesn't matter" great, shall we tell the future generations that too? "Oh son, I'll be dead before then so it's not my problem, good luck" wonderful.

 

But the population of the earth won't stop increasing just so we can think about this, the population will continue to expand, we will continue to deforrest huge areas to use for living space and eventually we will be outputting so much CO2 that we won't be able to breath because we cut down all the things which make oxygen naturally. So what about that idea?

 

I feel very strongly about this topic, we need to attempt to do something to better our future rather than sit idle and take the attitude that it's all made up. Our solar system is halfway through it's life, in another 4 billion years our planet will no longer be capable of sustaining life, let's not kill it off.

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We weren't around all that time though were we, and those things were natural occurrence which we cannot control, but have studied the effects of. In the space of time that we have been on this planet we've taken nearly everything it has to offer us, and we've ruined it.

 

In approximately 200 years from now we wont have any natural resources left to use, and the current rate that scientific technology is developing means we wont be around for much longer after. So what do you propose we do then really?

"oh I wont be alive then so it doesn't matter" great, shall we tell the future generations that too? "Oh son, I'll be dead before then so it's not my problem, good luck" wonderful.

 

But the population of the earth won't stop increasing just so we can think about this, the population will continue to expand, we will continue to deforrest huge areas to use for living space and eventually we will be outputting so much CO2 that we won't be able to breath because we cut down all the things which make oxygen naturally. So what about that idea?

 

I feel very strongly about this topic, we need to attempt to do something to better our future rather than sit idle and take the attitude that it's all made up. Our solar system is halfway through it's life, in another 4 billion years our planet will no longer be capable of sustaining life, let's not kill it off.

There's a difference between using up all of the planet's resources and the UN predicting that all coastal areas will be flooded by the year 2000 due to climate change.

 

Quite frankly, if weather forecasts for the next week aren't accurate, we shouldn't invest billions into science that has made thousands of wrong doom predictions since the 1960's.

There's a difference between using up all of the planet's resources and the UN predicting that all coastal areas will be flooded by the year 2000 due to climate change.

 

Quite frankly, if weather forecasts for the next week aren't accurate, we shouldn't invest billions into science that has made thousands of wrong doom predictions since the 1960's.

 

Yes there is a difference, but one causes the other. There is a small town in Wales, coastal where my friend currently lives. Recently the entire coast was destroyed due to huge amounts of flooding caused by messed up jetstreams which altered the weather, we got more rain than we are stereotypically perceived to get. Their predictions may not be 100% accurate, but if they are coming out with those predictions to begin with something isn't right.

 

And what if we don't make all those investments and turn out to be wrong?

 

If we invest all that money into research NOW, and it doesn't happen, we've got a huge foot in the door for research, and can better our futures anyway for when the obvious happens, like destroying all the trees. But if we invest now and it does happen? We survive.

We can recover from spending huge amounts of money, we can't recover from destroying the earth.

 

I would rather like to live thanks.

Yes there is a difference, but one causes the other. There is a small town in Wales, coastal where my friend currently lives. Recently the entire coast was destroyed due to huge amounts of flooding caused by messed up jetstreams which altered the weather, we got more rain than we are stereotypically perceived to get. Their predictions may not be 100% accurate, but if they are coming out with those predictions to begin with something isn't right.

 

And what if we don't make all those investments and turn out to be wrong?

 

If we invest all that money into research NOW, and it doesn't happen, we've got a huge foot in the door for research, and can better our futures anyway for when the obvious happens, like destroying all the trees. But if we invest now and it does happen? We survive.

We can recover from spending huge amounts of money, we can't recover from destroying the earth.

 

I would rather like to live thanks.

And in the US, we got one of the coldest winters on record and heavier than usual snow. Right now temperatures in my area have been at the low 60's for the last week. This is despite an average temperature of about 85 degrees Fahrenheit for this time of year. This is despite being lectured several years ago on how "snow is a thing of the past," "the ice caps are melting" (despite growing by 50% in 2013) and that global "warming" is happening. I've noticed something odd with the media. Ever since it got really cold in the United States, any time the subject is mentioned it has had its name changed to "Climate Change" instead of the failed "Global Warming" prediction.

 

That UN statement was made, and we've drastically increased the amount of CO2 into the atmosphere since then, thus, coastal areas should have been wiped out before 2000. The temperature has gone up by a whopping .1 degree 25 years since then.

 

Again, we've invested billions into research. It has been skewed statistics, no solution and more money for those researching it. The entire investment is based on a theory that has failed, for the last 25 years, to pan out. If you were making tens of thousands of dollars a year researching something that doesn't exist, would you stop or continue to say it exists to get more funding?

 

That money could be spent fixing the infrastructure, which is desperately needed, invested in medicine or nation building. Instead, it is being spent by politicians looking for more control over the every day man and scientists looking for money.

And in the US, we got one of the coldest winters on record and heavier than usual snow. Right now temperatures in my area have been at the low 60's for the last week. This is despite an average temperature of about 85 degrees Fahrenheit for this time of year. This is despite being lectured several years ago on how "snow is a thing of the past," "the ice caps are melting" (despite growing by 50% in 2013) and that global "warming" is happening. I've noticed something odd with the media. Ever since it got really cold in the United States, any time the subject is mentioned it has had its name changed to "Climate Change" instead of the failed "Global Warming" prediction.

 

That UN statement was made, and we've drastically increased the amount of CO2 into the atmosphere since then, thus, coastal areas should have been wiped out before 2000. The temperature has gone up by a whopping .1 degree 25 years since then.

 

Again, we've invested billions into research. It has been skewed statistics, no solution and more money for those researching it. The entire investment is based on a theory that has failed, for the last 25 years, to pan out. If you were making tens of thousands of dollars a year researching something that doesn't exist, would you stop or continue to say it exists to get more funding?

 

That money could be spent fixing the infrastructure, which is desperately needed, invested in medicine or nation building. Instead, it is being spent by politicians looking for more control over the every day man and scientists looking for money.

You believed the media.

You're still going off the fact that you think climate change is all about the heating up of the earth. The effect of our influence on climate change has led to more than just an increase in temperatures. We had no snow this year at all, where at my dad's house we usually get 6ft snow drifts during the majority of the winter months. We've had storms more recently, more severe flooding, stronger winds etc. Go to somewhere like Turkey, and they've had shifts in typical weathers too.

 

If the entire investment was based on a theory that failed why are we getting these shifts in normalities? Why are the ice caps actually melting? Why is it that pollution within the atmosphere is getting worse? Why is it that costs of resources are going through the roof?

Whether you like it or not, these things are happening, the data has recorded those things. Just because the media says "say goodbye to the snow forever" doesn't mean that is what the scientific data showed. these things are happening, and we need to do what we can to stop them happening. Otherwise we will fall down into a hole we cannot get out of.

 

200 years. No more resources. And you are still saying "don't spend the money on science, spend it on infrastructure". I agree, that other things need funding too. But don't detract from the fact that we need the scientific research to improve the conditions we live in. Because if you ignore them what are you going to do if they turn round and say "we told you so".

Like I said before, we can recover from an economic collapse should it happen. But if we deplete everything and leave this planet in a state that we cannot control, there will be no recovery. And we can't just jump ship and pick a new planet. "lol, restart"

Write Mother Nature a letter, tell her to stop changing, you don't have to change people love you for who you are. All you need is love!

 

climate change is a hoax mmkay

You believed the media.

You're still going off the fact that you think climate change is all about the heating up of the earth. The effect of our influence on climate change has led to more than just an increase in temperatures. We had no snow this year at all, where at my dad's house we usually get 6ft snow drifts during the majority of the winter months. We've had storms more recently, more severe flooding, stronger winds etc. Go to somewhere like Turkey, and they've had shifts in typical weathers too.

 

If the entire investment was based on a theory that failed why are we getting these shifts in normalities? Why are the ice caps actually melting? Why is it that pollution within the atmosphere is getting worse? Why is it that costs of resources are going through the roof?

Whether you like it or not, these things are happening, the data has recorded those things. Just because the media says "say goodbye to the snow forever" doesn't mean that is what the scientific data showed. these things are happening, and we need to do what we can to stop them happening. Otherwise we will fall down into a hole we cannot get out of.

 

200 years. No more resources. And you are still saying "don't spend the money on science, spend it on infrastructure". I agree, that other things need funding too. But don't detract from the fact that we need the scientific research to improve the conditions we live in. Because if you ignore them what are you going to do if they turn round and say "we told you so".

Like I said before, we can recover from an economic collapse should it happen. But if we deplete everything and leave this planet in a state that we cannot control, there will be no recovery. And we can't just jump ship and pick a new planet. "lol, restart"

I didn't say climate change was about heating up the Earth. I said the rhetoric that has existed has constantly changed, from "global warming" to "climate change" now.

 

There is no proof that we have an effect on climate change.

 

Yes, shifts in typical weather are normal, that is called weather. It changes constantly. That's how the Earth went from tropics to an ice age over time. Some seasons are more active than others. 10 years ago, there were winters with almost no snow in my area. There were also winters in that same time period with several blizzards and a few ice storms.

 

Why are the ice caps melting on Mars? Should the humans up there stop sending CO2 into the atmosphere?

 

Pollution in the atmosphere has failed to be linked to global warming.

 

Rising prices is caused by inflation of all currencies, mainly due to the arbitrary value of money. It is also caused by lessening resources, which this isn't about.

 

They've been saying "we'll tell you so" for the last 50 years. Nothing they have predicted has come true. There's still snow falling, ice caps are increasing, and, much like it has been over the last 2000 years since the last Ice Age ended, the Earth has been gradually getting warmer without any drastic uptake since the industrial age.

 

I still fail to see the logic in creating an economic collapse just to see if "scientists" that have been wrong for the last 50 years are suddenly right.

Earth is just fine. We're the problem.

Neil deGrasse Tyson -

“The good thing about science is that it’s true, whether or not you believe it. But the experimental consensus is there that human beings, by virtue of our conduct, burning sources of carbon, fossil fuels among them, that have been buried for millions of years. Carbon previously underground is now in the atmosphere, and that source of carbon makes carbon dioxide a greenhouse gas and is warming the earth. We are warming and that comes with consequences.” 

 

“Earth will survive this. People say ‘save the Earth.’ No, Don’t worry about Earth. Earth will be here long after we render ourselves extinct. What happens is that we’re changing the climate faster than our culture may be able to respond. One of the consequences is you melt ice caps and the water levels rise.”

 

Earth is just fine. We're the problem.

Neil deGrasse Tyson -

Do you mean that flooding that was supposed to wipe out all coastal cities 14 years ago?

Do you mean that flooding that was supposed to wipe out all coastal cities 14 years ago?

Honestly man. I don't really know shit about this topic. I just read an article a week or so ago, and it's been stuck in my head for awhile. Saw the topic on Climate Change and thought it would be appropriate.

 

Couldn't find the original article on this.. but i did find a video.

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/neil-degrasse-tyson-climate-change-greenhouse-gas-2014-4

global warming hoax for dummies

global warming hoax for dummies

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 if you really think the government cares about the environment...you may have your head in the sand....Monsanto nuff said

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yes....its a hoax dude earth has cycles it gets hot it gets cold btw how warm was it during the winter time?

 

global warming hoax for dummies

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 if you really think the government cares about the environment...you may have your head in the sand....Monsanto nuff said

You always comment about how the government doesn't care about the people, how everything is a hoax, Obama is out to kill us etc.. Seriously, it's so annoying everywhere, that's all you post about. 

+10batrillmillion 

 

Climate change is something we cannot really talk about as it is something, as said above, we do not have enough data on. 

 

However, there is a set "normal" that has been adopted in the past years and when that set normal changes, people like to say there is an issue. 

I do not agree with everything on the subject of climate change, but it is naiive to think that we are not changing the climate when we have destroyed so much land to build structures, have emitted loads of pollutants into the sea, land, and air as well as depleted many resources. 

 

climate change does not necessarily have to mean the end of the world, it can mean any change to the climate or to species on the planet. We are changing the planet and not in a good way.