Earlier this evening, a serviceman with the British Armed Forces was beheaded by two terrorists shouting "Allah Akbur"

 

Eye-witnessess' described seeing a blue Opel Tigra veering off the road and ramming into the victim, the two suspects then exited the vehicle, pulled the man in the street and hacked at him with long knifes until he was dead, his head was severed.

 

Police took 20-minutes to arrive as they waited for CO19 (Armed Units in London). The men then charged the armed officers and were shot, one is in serious condition in hospital whilst the other has sustained minor injuries and is in police custody.

 

The victim has not been named.

 

One of the suspects later was recorded by a witness:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQxdB44fKm8

 

We have to send these all islamist, nazis and other kind of radicals, fanatics and scum various meter underground. I'm starting to get really pissed off.

Holy Smoke, the world seems to get crazier each day we live on it!

They better lock both of the suspects up and throw the keys away!

Holy Smoke, the world seems to get crazier each day we live on it!

They better lock both of the suspects up and throw the keys away!

I'm sure tax payers don't want them locked up lol

I'm sure tax payers don't want them locked up lol

Wait, what? If you were in the US, I might understand that comment, but as far as I know neither Canada nor the UK has capital punishment.

20 minute response time....Wow just wow. That is crazy long...

We have to send these all islamist, nazis and other kind of radicals, fanatics and scum various meter underground. I'm starting to get really pissed off.

 Nope they can still do harm underground, I say send them into space and leave them there  

20 minute response time....Wow just wow. That is crazy long...

 

 

The police response time where I live is about 10-15 minuets which isn't that bad giving that we only have just under 200,000 people and very little   "bad crime" (i,e murder and such). How ever the Medical (EMS) is less the 10 minuets 

Edited May 22, 201312 yr by 00Stevo

That is as vicious and evil as it gets.  Make no mistake that Evil walks among us all.  It's hard to believe in a civilized society that one man can be hack to death by another man, a stranger no less, for no apparent reason what-so-ever, right in the middle of a busy street.  Prayers to that victim's family and friends.

 

DrDetroit

Edited May 22, 201312 yr by drdetroit

Nope they can still do harm underground, I say send them into space and leave them there

Well, I didn't actually mean to leave them in condition of harming anyone;)

Also, seems that the killer, in another act of fanatism, attacked the officers because a female one was manipulating the corpse, just because she was a woman. These fucktards are just sick:/

That's just...... horrible.

That's pretty fucked up. But yeah, average 911 response time in the U.S. is 23 minutes and police always have service pistols and might have a shotgun or tactical rifle in their car. "Armed response" in a country with anti-gun laws, who knows. I don't know about European nations to say. I'm sure some of the others on here do.

That's pretty fucked up. But yeah, average 911 response time in the U.S. is 23 minutes and police always have service pistols and might have a shotgun or tactical rifle in their car. "Armed response" in a country with anti-gun laws, who knows. I don't know about European nations to say. I'm sure some of the others on here do.

 

 

I don't think you can say "23 minutes" different calls have different priority's. If someone is having a heart attack a Ambulance will be their in 5-10 minutes. Same with police lets say their is a call for a suicidal person police have to be there with in 5-10 minutes. Its a government regulation that first responders have to be on the scene of a 911 call with in 10 minutes max. If the Average is higher then that, they need to rethink how they respond to calls. I live in a pretty big area, and once my neighbors house was on fire, and police and fire were there with in 10 minutes. I know the Milwaukee Police Department got yelled at by the governor, because they were taking something like 15-20 minutes to get to a call. Since then they have got it down to a average of 8 minutes. (that's for higher priority calls). 

 

 

 

I high doubt the average response time is 23 minutes.....

Edited May 23, 201312 yr by Darkangel

Police were on scene very quickly, however regular beat officers in the UK are unarmed. Tasers are becoming more widespread (to the great despair of many people) however they are not equipped with a firearm.

It took officers from the specialist firearms division 20 minutes to get on scene, it would not have been safe for normal officers to approach the two men, it is standard procedure for normal officers to keep their distance until armed officers has cleared the scene.

You cannot send in cops who aren't able to safely deal with the call, this could have been a much worse repeat of the officers who were mauled by a dog last year, only replace the dog with two mentally unstable men with meat cleavers and a firearm.

 

 

One of the suspects charged at a firearms officer and was shot, the second suspect attempted to fire the gun, however the reports I've heard state that the gun malfunctioned and injured the suspect. Police also shot him.

 

 

The police did what the police could do, I cannot see any way for them to have dealt with it any different given the circumstances.

 

 

 

I personally find it disturbing that the first thing that is shown about this is the suspects rambling while they seemingly wait for police to arrive, I have stayed away from the main news networks here as they quite frankly end up circlejerking the same information over and over.

 

I think that incidents like this that does not impact anyone outside of the country should remain as internal news, there's absolutely no reason for why this is global news other than it preaches fear and hatred.

Aren't there firearms officers outside CO19? I thought CO19 was just the specialist unit, but that there were also (more numerous) Armed Response Vehicles that could have given a better response time.

Also, Darkangel, many places in the US aren't in a city. Outside a city, there may not be a cop 10 minutes away. It doesn't have it do with priorities; sometimes there just aren't enough cops (there might be a single deputy on patrol for the entire county, no troopers there, and maybe a couple cops in a city there - they literally wouldn't be able to reach everywhere that fast). Keep in mind the effect of population density.

Wait, what? If you were in the US, I might understand that comment, but as far as I know neither Canada nor the UK has capital punishment.

What i'm saying is, if this was in Canada (which it did happen on a bus in Manitoba a few years ago just outside my home town http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2012/05/22/mb-vince-li-schizophrenia-interview-manitoba.html ).

My tax dollars goes to housing these people, I don't want to give away my hard earned money to inmates who commit these crimes, 3 square meals a day?  pfft fuck that shit I don't even get time for 3 meals a day..

I'm not racist by any means, but all immigrants should be deported back to their own countries where they can do this to each other.

Aren't there firearms officers outside CO19? I thought CO19 was just the specialist unit, but that there were also (more numerous) Armed Response Vehicles that could have given a better response time.

 

From what I've read (I could've misread though), CO19 is the specialist unit (like our SWAT Teams), but in times of elevated risk, there are some patrol officers that can be given weapons from the PD armory (kind of like a percentage of non-swat officers carrying AR-15s in some US departments, but a lot more restricted)

CO19 are the ones using ARV's. There's also the Diplomatic Protection Group, DPG and the Special Escort Group, SEG, they are all armed, however only DPG provides ARV support for CO19 if needed and availeble.

 

DPG protects diplomats in London whereas the Special Escort Group escorts VIP's around the city.

Oh, I thought ARVs were AFOs. Aren't CO19 just SFOs? Or how do police firearms units work in the UK? Is there some reference I could read?

Specialist Crime and Operations Specialist Firearms Command (SCO19) (previously known as SO19 and then CO19) is a Central Operations branch within Greater London's Metropolitan Police Service.^[2] The Command is responsible for providing a firearms-response capability, assisting the rest of the service, which is normally unarmed.^[2] Within the media it is occasionally compared to the SWAT units of the United States, being seen as London's equivalent. The unit is based at Leman Street Police Station in Whitechapel, Central London.

Source

 

And here I was just getting used to CO19 after calling it SO19.

 

Alternatively there's the "firearms unit" wiki page

 

One of the UK channels aired a brilliant documentary series based on CO19 a few years ago called CO19 frontline, it's worth watching.

Middle-easterns wonder why there are harsh stereotypes. Some live up to them!!

There has got to be some glitch, I watched it once, and heard the news audio. I tried to replay it and it plays some country song!! I even refreshed the page, and clicked the external link to view it on YouTube, and it still has a country song! So weird..

Edited May 23, 201312 yr by BroJam67