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At least the conversations here seem to have gotten back to being lighthearted. For a moment there it kinda went like:
 

Not british?

Scotland is in Britain... 

LSPDFR Community and Whomever it may Concern,
 
I've been around this site for a hot minute. I like to think I generally know what I'm doing when it comes to skin designing, among other things that have to do with GTA modding. In my time here, I've released exactly 81 files in just over a year of membership. That's more than most members here. I'm not saying I'm better, more qualified, or more talented than anyone else here, but I will say I have worked very hard to bring this community quality work the entire time I've been here. As of November 7th, 2018, the entirety of my file library will no longer be available on LCPDFR.
 
Why I'm no longer sharing my files here:
 
Rude & disrespectful members: 
Since starting this adventure about a year ago, I've met quite a few great people. Helpful people who give constructive feedback on my work. I've also come across people who have no regard for my intense effort to make high quality work. I've had people rip my designs, screenshots and abuse the LCPDFR review system because they didn't like my response to their rude comments, reviews, etc. For example, humans are not perfect, we all miss a few errors. If one of my screenshots has a bit too much saturation, I probably missed it, there's no need to leave a one star paragraph long essay on how much that one picture sucks. Then when I reply with something you don't like, you go and one star all of my other files, which is real mature. This is why we all can't get along, and it's annoying because if we could just learn to give constructive feedback, this wouldn't be an issue.
 
Staff have treated members poorly:
In the instance I heard about, a modeler I know of was treated unreasonably poorly by a member of the LCPDFR staff. I'm not here to stir more stuff up, but come on! I'm not getting into the specifics, because that's between the member and staff, but what I will say, being on the staff of a pretty large website, you should hold yourself to a higher standard. Don't curse people out because they let you know about something of concern on the site, instead, look at it in a professional manner - and deal with it in a professional manner. This isn't all of the staff, by the way. I have had many positive encounters with site staff, and they are great people!
 
Lack of substantial new things:
Yes, I understand that 0.4 is in development, near release and all. That being said, we've had the same general call-outs, scripts and such for a pretty extended amount of time. 0.3 brought many new and exiting things to this community when it was released in July 2016. Since then, we've seen the same tactics, maneuvers, and bugs over and over again. From the players' side, this should be understandable - as we all want new things to put in our game. From the developers' side, the prolonged wait is also understandable, adding many new things to the update that look like big mechanical changes. Adding ambient crimes, additional player/ped customization, menu options, etc. While this is all very cool, I personally don't think it takes 2 years to develop this. I've seen mods like "Stop The Ped" and "Interaction +" come out and be updated in a much shorter amount of time, and those plugins are considerably similar to the previewed content of the LSPDFR 0.4 release. I also understand the developers are making this in their own time, with little to no financial support. I know I'm not the only member who feels this way about the updates, or lack thereof.
 
Stolen & misused content:
I'm a pretty generous person. I don't charge you for me to design a skin going to a public release or to help develop something to better the community. But, when I'm generous enough to make you textures or something of the sort, I expect you to ask me before modifying the file I made you, I also expect credit for my work as well. I've had multiple occasions on this site where I make something for someone else, and they have either posted it without my permission, modified it without my permission, or sold it without my permission. Yeah, yeah - the site admin doesn't condone any form of financial transactions.... All I'm saying is, it's really not that hard to ask to do something with my work. Most of the time I'll let you post it, modify it, whatever, I just want to know you're doing so. But, when you don't credit me, and ignore my requests for credit for my own work - it makes me pretty angry.  
 
Members are just ugly to each other:
I've been involved in, seen and heard of so much "drama" within this community. Why? We all literally make stuff for a $60 video game. What happens is one person gets too confident about their work, then other people get upset with that person, and arguments arise. It happens in intervals, too. It's a different set of people every time. When this happens, people just leave because they get fed up with this crap. It's like a country's revolution. In this case, it keeps happening over and over again. I'm sure i'm not the first one to point these problems out, but seriously, we all need to see that we have a common goal, and drop all of the pre-existing grudges - AND WORK TOGETHER!
 
Finishing, I'm really not going after anybody, I don't want to start any drama. I wrote this and cleared my files because I want to see some positive change here. We're all getting tired of this toxic crap, and quite frankly, I don't think I'll be the only one to leave because of this. I think we would all like to see an improvement in how we treat each other. I'll be honest, there have been a few instances where I was somewhat rude to other members, but from those instances, I learned that it's only counter-productive to act that way. This will 110% be mis-understood, but just to be safe and repeat myself for the third time - I'm not targeting any single person in this post, I'm making this post because I want people to realize we need a positive change here, and hopefully this will help make people realize that.
 
Closing: Thank you to all the people who helped me get where I am today. I'm not going offline, I'm just leaving this site. I'll still be on Discord and such. Again, thanks to the following people for their support, kind words and such, it doesn't go unnoticed.
 
If you want to join my Discord, PM me since it's against guidelines to post it here. My Discord username is T. Jennings#1056
 
Regards,
T. Jennings

I guess I'll add my two cents in real quick.
 
I'm not going to lie, I've been absent from the community for the last couple of years so I don't really know who you are, but thank you for your contribution to the community. It's really something that goes unnoticed and people really take it for granted which is unacceptable. People need to stop being so god damn needy. If you would like something, either create it yourself or ask for some help. Creating content isn't really that easy, if it was easy everyone would do it. There are some people out there that are better than others, but every little contribution counts. It's what makes a community a community.
 
One thing that I've noticed over the last 8 years is that the sense of a community has gone down the drain. Back in the early modding days of GTA 4 with modders like Lt. Caine, Bxbugs, and Yakadafi (Just saying those names makes me feel old, especially Yakadafi before his namechange lol), everyone was giving other members their own content so they could create something off of that and vice versa. Now it seems like everyone is all self centered which takes away from the whole point of a community. Maybe it's just because the older generation is moving on from the GTA scene and we're getting the new batch of younger members into the community, but who knows. It's childish. 

So, Ive been thinking about this long time now, but i think i made the right choice, I am going to leave lcpdfr.com. I've just been fed up with most of the situations on here, from lots of hate comments to 1 stars review for a typo, Firstly, I never told this anyone but the hate i get from people on normal dms is just too much, people just telling me to delete stuff cuz its too quiet, to a siren that did pretty good and they guy says it dosent contain a e.g. Hilo tone for a 1 star review. So you might ask where im going to go, Im not sure yet.... but i might make my own discord server or go to a different page like gta-mod-center or gta5-mods, I will (if im not going to be too lazy) a update to this of where im going to go, Soooo.... Goodbye everyone, Hopefully The haters will not follow me, Also I am going to leave my mods untouched here so they will still be able to be downloaded, i might comeback i might not, it just depends to the community now. for the last time now, Bye to everyone that supported me.

I have no idea who will all see this, but I hope a few. I just want to say thank you to everyone who has been working for us to have LSPDFR to enjoy. Modders/modelers/scrip authors, etc.  What you do is simply magic to me. I can't imagine how much time goes into this, or what it takes. I just want to say again thank you. I wish I had knowledge and skills to help and I wish I had money to contribute. As of now, as it is, I can only offer my sincerest gratitude. 
 
Keep up the good work and I look forward to your future release. 

I'm leaving my computer, LCPDFR, & ZModeler... To unwind from working on models and this community.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
So I'm gonna make a sandwich. Brb in 10 minutes. It's 2am, I'm tired and wanted to bring some humor up of the retirement/leaving posts.

I have to say, I am a little worried about the whole stats thing. Now people will see how I truly play as a cop. 😂 

I fully understand and appreciate things like this take time and effort to complete, however, with such a following that LSPDFR now has and how big it has become, i  still do not think its appropriate to begin making out like this is going to be released within a few months. Lets be realistic here, these updates were drip fed throughout the course of a year to build hype, over lets be real , nothing as of yet, and ultimately no sign of it any time soon considering this post in itself is now 2 months, going on for 3 months old. 
 
I fully support the dev team here and do believe they have done a fantastic job with this , and i do understand , it takes as long as it takes, but why build up all this hype, to let it all go stale , capitalise on the hype and release these updates when your ready to produce something , my memory might be shot but i do recall previous topics like this for nearly all of the previous releases going back to the LCPDFR days, 

Firstly dismount your high horse for a moment and take the time to read some of the previous comments. Now I haven't been the one making these comments; nevertheless, I have taken it upon myself to reply on their behalf. What the previous comments seem to be about is not the fact that they don't have their mod now but, it is a discussion as to why the devs would have chosen to reveal the news of 0.4 when they did. I'm sure everyone here especially those who have been fans since Liberty City can appreciate the incredible hard work that has gone into this mod as I hope you can appreciate that their antsy-ness is a compliment as to the achievements of aforementioned devs.
 
What is extremely unhelpful here is to turn a forum intended for a community of fans of LSPDFR into a sour place that allows personal insults levied amongst one another instead of calm carefully-worded discourse on any of the issues/praise they have regarding this mod. It's hard not to reflect onto you the common trend of recent society which is to find something for which to be outraged about, however it seems your dressing-down in this matter is more than a little unwarranted especially considering other users have already made a similar point in a far less attacking manner.
 
I can appreciate your intentions were probably to protect the developers' reputation however, there are community moderators who are perfectly capable of doing so.
 
 

Yeah same. Have been wanting to go back to LSPDFR for quite some time now, but kept postponing it because I thought 0.4 was just around the corner. I didn't want to redownload GTA and mod an entire game folder and then having to start from scratch less than a month later. It's almost been a year. I do realise how long it takes for a mod this big to be bug free and have all the features that are asked for, but why the incredibly early announcement? Making the announcement so early just makes people lose their hype. It's like you just started coding when the announcement was made.
 
Most games are announced half a year before launch, this modification took longer than that. In the meantime even longtime GTA youtubers quit playing the game. I know this is just all complaining, but I'd rather see much much smaller updates, like one single feature, each quarter/half a year than having to wait 3 years for a big update.

Yeah same. Have been wanting to go back to LSPDFR for quite some time now, but kept postponing it because I thought 0.4 was just around the corner. I didn't want to redownload GTA and mod an entire game folder and then having to start from scratch less than a month later. It's almost been a year. I do realise how long it takes for a mod this big to be bug free and have all the features that are asked for, but why the incredibly early announcement? Making the announcement so early just makes people lose their hype. It's like you just started coding when the announcement was made.
 
Most games are announced half a year before launch, this modification took longer than that. In the meantime even longtime GTA youtubers quit playing the game. I know this is just all complaining, but I'd rather see much much smaller updates, like one single feature, each quarter/half a year than having to wait 3 years for a big update.

Yeah, i'm also loosing interest.
It defenitely takes too long.
Would be better to post all the announcements a couple weeks before the actual releaae.
You know people get excited when you post announcements.
If it'll not released this year it, than it's pretty disappointing.

I am inclined to agree somewhat,  i do seem to be losing interest now,  I have followed each update / blog post with great anticipation for an impeding release , This post originates from 8/10/2018 nearly 2 months old now, and still nothing,  not that i am pushing for a release date or anything, i do think these posts would be much better suited showcasing the work 1-2 weeks before release, rather than  getting hopes up constantly each day , to then find nothing.  I dare say , with the new GTA V update, it will be well after christmas before we see anything of a new LSPDFR 😞 

In a little less than 2 months it will be a year since this update was previewed.

Well, that's not what i wrote.
Read my text again.
Why do they have to announce an update over a year of it's actual release?
We even don't know if it will released this year.
At some point people get dissapointed and loose interest because they don't know how long will it still take.

Anyone else checking the site for the update to drop everyday sometimes twice a day. Every now and then it pulls up the news page and I see 0.4 and I get excited then I realize it didn't actually drop. So excited. I assumed it will drop New Years though.

Even if it does a lot of what other mods already do, I think it will do it much better. Also, every plugin or mod tends to drop performance and is poorly integrated. This means a massively better overall experience. Some of the improvements like AI will be amazing though. 

@Sam My only request..... Bring back the "Fat Cop" lol. I know it's no simple task, but that always offered a fun challenge. 0.4 looks great!!! You folks have really outdone yourselves this time around 

I'll admit, recently I've lost interest in LSPDFR due to frustrating things like incompetent AI and lack of variation in pursuits. However, this does look like a promising update and it makes me want to play it again. I also hope you've addressed the annoying issues in 0.3 like the AI doing u turns on highways and accidentally triggering a pursuit with a random civilian while there is one already active.

Dying here! It's been two months! Why do you have to tease us so long! 🙂 Here's to hoping they're just waiting for the final GT 5 DLC to work out any associated bugs....

OMG YASS!!! Download running right now!
 
In the meantime, does someone have a full list with all available vehicles, including new ones? <3

I wonder what "manual approval" is. Are the mods downloading it a testing it out for a few hours...
 
3.1 is pending on GTA 5 mods too.