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Talk of this was in the past and it is being planned, but I can say that any updates at all are a long ways away.

Here's scanner audio that talks about "proceed with the burn" and "seven burners in position". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0tK09NNFfI

If it weren't for the obvious safety risks, I'd laugh my ass off if that actually happened.

He means that, if you had watched the news report that was linked before the unedited video, you would learn that the guy called the cops because his roommates evicted him and assaulted him in the process. Being angry in that type of situation is perfectly acceptable, especially when the police take so long to show up. An attempt to defuse the situation, maybe explaining why they couldn't come sooner, would've been better than walking up to him and inviting a reaction.

I understand. I was simply trying to get a gauge on this community's thoughts on things like this. If flame wars start, have no hesitation locking this thread and deleting it.

The point of these topics is opening up discussions on use of force. While not many of us are in LE, it is easy to determine when something is overdone. Also, sorry if I offended anyone about the last statement. I'm not insulting the officers who have died. I am offering an explanation as to why people are cheering on the cop killings (which I don't support).

This is a surprisingly well done report. In the following videos, a victim, who was assaulted and illegally evicted by his roommates, gets punched by a cop after voicing his displeasure at such a long response time. The least they could've done was attempt to defuse the situation, instead of looking for a fight. While the caller was being a jackass, he didn't deserve to be assaulted for the second time that hour, especially the people who he called to help. Probably one of the few commendable officers in that department was the one that sent in the report to the news. News Report http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=c2gLuYtdLmc#! Original Video (WARNING! Explicit Language) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hM02kr5DwoE

Not sure if this is related, but a pursuit was just initiated by San Bernardino County Sheriff: http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=wp&feedId=3771

I used to qualify as a marksman, but I was still a better shot than most of the cops that would be at the range with me. For all we know, he could have made up for it with other qualifications, like UDT.

http://www.lcpdfr.com/page/tutorials/index.action/_/texturing-tips-and-tutorials/texturing-tips-and-tricks-r8

Some interesting things I just found out. Apparently, he did more than just desk work: http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/07/us/lapd-attacks-timeline/index.html From someone that shoots competitively, marksman is the lowest rank in rifle accuracy. However, his rank in pistol is third highest. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/ex-police-officer-suspect-in-california-killing-spree/article8331016/?cmpid=rss1 It's gonna be a bitch taking him in, EDIT: San Bernardino County Feed, I doubt it would include the manhunt in this ordinary frequency, but it's worth a shot EDIT2: Looks like they are keeping the manhunt on the same frequency for some strange reason, I've heard "truck in ravine" and "command post" a few times.

From what I've read in the comments sections of LA news sites, most of the people in the LA area already viewed the police with distrust and knew they were still corrupt. One angle I've seen suggested on other sites I go to is that he is intending the manhunt to self destruct after the police shoot more civilians, creating more distrust for them and possibly warranting a massive federal probe into their actions.

I just looked that up out of curiosity. They don't do any physical action (though they would still be trained in basic marksmanship). Their main job, unless changed in the War on Terror, is to figure out and report the movements of other countries naval forces and to root out spies within their ranks.

In his manifesto, he claims that he lost his security clearance "shortly after [his] termination." However, he wouldn't of gotten out until next week. It wouldn't be too hard to remember specific details. The main thing that would assist him is the LAPD training, which would've let him know the response to his actions and what he could expect.

He's an intelligence officer who had a high level security clearance until he was fired by the LAPD. He would have basic instruction in the infantry weapons found on his boat, which today would most likely be an M9 and an M4. However, he would have access to all sorts of files and would be able to read after-action reports on what exactly went wrong with operations and learn from that. Police training, while slightly dated, still stays pretty much the same with slight technicalities. Something would have to be a major wake up call for drastic changes to be made, for example the North Hollywood Shootout or Columbine.

Police claim to be there to protect the public. If they wanted to portray this image, they would be sure that someone at the very least was driving a car that matched the suspect's car, let alone seeing if the guy had a weapon. All they are doing by shooting anyone that remotely matches the suspect's description on sight is making more people support Dorner's actions, and blowing the lid off their corruption while at it. As I said before, this isn't a typical crazed guy that had a psychological breakdown after medication, he is someone with a vendetta against the LAPD who knows their tactics as well as military tactics, years to prepare and will most likely be several steps ahead of them. I doubt that he would come back to a house which he should know would be heavily guarded, especially in a position of vulnerability where he would have no cover or surprise element should he try to ambush the cops. As for what's happening now, I believe that either Dorner is setting up an ambush for the cops searching for him in the hills, or that he put his vehicle there as a distraction while he seeks to cross more names off his list.

It would be easy to argue that they are trying to "silence" him. For a suggested tactic, they could try identifying their targets and whether they pose a threat before firing. Cops in Torrance confused two middle aged Asian women delivering newspapers, injuring two of them and riddling their car with bullet holes simply because it was a pickup that somewhat matched the car Dorner is driving. I find it hard to confuse Asian women with a 6'4 black guy. With bone headed errors like this that will probably be dismissed, all it does is win support for Dorner.

This guy is former naval intelligence and knows the LAPD"s tactics. The airport ID is probably a distraction, and I'd be willing to bet that the burned truck in the hills is a currently working distraction also.

What I am not seeing mentioned here is that the suspect was fired after reporting his FTO for police brutality. While I am not supporting his actions, I can see why he believes he is justified. Also, adding onto the two innocent people shot, further updates on that was that they were small Asian women delivering newspapers. You'd think that cops would be taught to identify targets before they shoot, they may just shoot each other while searching for this guy. EDIT: You can watch this live here: http://ktla.com/live/#axzz2KBzP1xam