​Nobody is saying they do...

But they do. Cops are not breaking up peaceful protests, they are there in case it goes violent, which it does each time, and then they disperse it. Business want the riot cops there and the police to be proactive and ready for the likely outcome, they don't want their livelihoods destroyed

The difference between those photos is only time. A rather large percentage of those peaceful protests turned violent enough to warrant a more heavy response from the police. Based on those protests often turning violent, the police response should be the same in terms of staging equipment.​

Please show me that percentage that shows that peaceful protests become violent protests without the riot police there.

​It's a dangerous job. We pay them to risk their safety to enforce the laws. Sure, they might be safer if they disregard all sensitivity and common decency, but that is bad policing, and does nothing to help the situation in the long-term.

And all that I found are those allegations were articles on Breitbart and InfoWars.....so I'm not ready to believe that.

I would much rather be tougher on rioters, who are CRIMINALS, and bring an end to riots with force as is necessary, than let cops get injured and almost killed needlessly and out their lives at risk for stupidity. You can look up videos and see critically wounded cops bleeding all over on the ground having bricks hurled at them and when they're being carried to safety, the cops carrying them get hit with bricks too. Force will be met with force. Rioters are using force, cops will use force. If you for example, had a tendency to get mugged when walking on a particular street, you'd take a different route right? That's you being PROACTIVE and taking PRECAUTIONS. The large majority of what were peaceful protests for Mike Brown and Freddy Gray became large riots, and the patrol cops sent to the first ones were beaten and injured badly and couldn't contain the riot. Because this was common, cops sent riot police to protests instead in case a riot broke out, which they always did, so that they could contain it easier, protect cops and protect the area they are in. This was much more efficient at stopping the riots. That is the police being PROACTIVE and thing PRECAUTIONS, something people always complain that cops don't do, and when they do? Guess what! They get told they're not doing it right by inexperienced uneducated idiots. The people will never be happy. 

Please show me that percentage that shows that peaceful protests become violent protests without the riot police there.

​Are you not generalizing by lumping together the protests immediately preceding riots with the very large percentage of peaceful protests that occur in this country? These are 2 entirely different situations. I haven't seen US police immediately respond to a protest with riot gear, and I've only seen that type of response happen after violence has been shown.

​Are you not generalizing by lumping together the protests immediately preceding riots with the very large percentage of peaceful protests that occur in this country? These are 2 entirely different situations. I haven't seen US police immediately respond to a protest with riot gear, and I've only seen that type of response happen after violence has been shown.

​When you look at a peaceful protest, lead by community and religious leaders, and think that within a certain amount of time, they will be jumping on police cars and throwing rocks at bearcats, that is generalization. 

But don't worry, the police officers who sent a small army of militarized police to the peaceful protests are just as guilty of that. You need to accept that yes, this is happening. Police are not perfect, and this is not a case of good guys vs. bad guys. There are atrocities being committed by both sides, but of course more on the side of the rioters. That being said we need to encourage peaceful protesting, because it is a fundamental part in the larger conversation about these issues.

​When you look at a peaceful protest, lead by community and religious leaders, and think that within a certain amount of time, they will be jumping on police cars and throwing rocks at bearcats, that is generalization. 

But don't worry, the police officers who sent a small army of militarized police to the peaceful protests are just as guilty of that. You need to accept that yes, this is happening. Police are not perfect, and this is not a case of good guys vs. bad guys. There are atrocities being committed by both sides, but of course more on the side of the rioters. That being said we need to encourage peaceful protesting, because it is a fundamental part in the larger conversation about these issues.

No, police sending riot cops to what is a peaceful protest at the time is not generalisation, it's being proactive and taking precautions. Which is beneficial in the long run. It makes sense that you send more capable forces to deal with what has turned violent most of the time. If taking precautions to safety and security and being proactive is generalisation, so be it. It's worth generalising these people if it saves business's, property and potentially lives

People who kill cops and cops who kill people are treated completely differently in our justice system.

​This is why we are in the mess we are today.  A crime is a crime, no matter who commits it and the individual should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

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​But THEY are not the ones burning police cars. THEY are not the ones lighting fires or looting. THEY are exercising the same exact constitutional right that THESE people are:

These people are standing on a sidewalk calmly, not running through the streets. And as someone pointed out before, these types of "protests" never resulted in damage to public or private property and didn't result in injuries.

 

​And you're allowed to voice that opinion because of the First Amendment, the same Amendment that the peaceful protesters that put up the memorial were exercising.

This is how freedom works.

​Just like I said in one of my previous posts, you are just spouting out amendments to The Constitution but don't actually know what you are talking about. I suppose using your logic I could say that since we have the 2nd Amendment I have the right to go purchase any weapon I want. I can go out and buy anti-aircraft missiles and if anybody tries to stop me I will say they are trampling on my 2nd Amendment rights. Yes, we have amendments that give us certain rights but there are still laws you have to follow.

 

​Its a very emotional issue for a lot of people, its not really fair to ask them all to be completely logical in the middle of that anger.

It isn't fair to ask people to be logical? That has got to be the most ridiculous thing I have heard today. So anytime you are upset it gives you the right to do whatever you want and not worry about consequences? I have to try that sometime. Sorry officer I was upset when I robbed that store, it isn't fair to ask me to use logic.​ I wonder how well that will work for me in court.

 

People who kill cops and cops who kill people are treated completely differently in our justice system.

Because police officers are sworn members who have been entrusted with that kind of authority; people seem to forget that these days. Every police shooting is investigated and if there is sufficient evidence to charge the officer they are charged just like anyone else. 99.9% of people who kill cops are no where near justified in what they did.​

 

​If its politically correct to not be heavy-handed with peaceful protesters, then I guess I am politically correct.

I'm all for going after looters with tear gas and batons, because they're criminals. But these people are NOT the criminals:

 

Just like c13 said, anyone can go and selectively pick out pictures that support their side of the argument. Something you'll notice in those pictures however is that there isn't a single armored vehicle in sight so I am not exactly how those pictures help your cause.​

 

​This is why we are in the mess we are today.  A crime is a crime, no matter who commits it and the individual should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

​You can look at what I said to Riley in reference to that comment. When police commit a crime they are held to the same standard as everyone else. The issue isn't that police are getting away with things, the issue is that people don't know jack shit when they are talking about the law. Ferguson is the perfect example.

​This is why we are in the mess we are today.  A crime is a crime, no matter who commits it and the individual should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

​No, it isn't.  When a cop kills someone, it's fully investigated.  If it a shooting is found to be unjustified, the officer will be charged and tried in court.  If we just haphazardly skipped the investigation and charged any police officer that's involved in an OIS with murder, then police would be incapable of properly responding to threats against either themselves, their fellow officers, or civilians.  You'd have a hell of a lot more dead police officers, and innocent bystanders.

Alright time for me to jump in, the reason why we have so much discordance in our society right now is because people are idiots and refuse to look at the facts in a case, if people would just take the time and stop being sheeps, maybe then they would realize that "Huh, perhaps that police shooting was justified or maybe it wasn't the police's fault" Now are there police officers that do bad things, absolutely and those cops should be prosecuted, but that's a small percentage of cops, it's because of extreme-liberal networks like Fox news that just make things worse for cops, always exaggerating the story. 

 

TL;DR, Stop watching the news and being sheeps and pay attention to the facts as they're presented to you. 

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Alright time for me to jump in, the reason why we have so much discordance in our society right now is because people are idiots and refuse to look at the facts in a case, if people would just take the time and stop being sheeps, maybe then they would realize that "Huh, perhaps that police shooting was justified or maybe it wasn't the police's fault" Now are there police officers that do bad things, absolutely and those cops should be prosecuted, but that's a small percentage of cops, it's because of extreme-liberal networks like Fox news that just make things worse for cops, always exaggerating the story. 

 

TL;DR, Stop watching the news and being sheeps and pay attention to the facts as they're presented to you. 

​LOL did you just use the word liberal and Fox News in the same sentence? Those two words don't even belong in the same paragraph. I wouldn't blame one side of the media for all the exaggerations and hyping the story up, they are all guilty of it whether they are a liberal news agency or a conservative one. They all are the scum of the earth who race bait and report everything as fact without any research.

​LOL did you just use the word liberal and Fox News in the same sentence? Those two words don't even belong in the same paragraph. I wouldn't blame one side of the media for all the exaggerations and hyping the story up, they are all guilty of it whether they are a liberal news agency or a conservative one. They all are the scum of the earth who race bait and report everything as fact without any research.

​Agreed, I was just referring to extreme news networks that like to stretch the truth in order to gain more views. 

Alright time for me to jump in, the reason why we have so much discordance in our society right now is because people are idiots and refuse to look at the facts in a case, if people would just take the time and stop being sheeps, maybe then they would realize that "Huh, perhaps that police shooting was justified or maybe it wasn't the police's fault" Now are there police officers that do bad things, absolutely and those cops should be prosecuted, but that's a small percentage of cops, it's because of extreme-liberal networks like Fox news that just make things worse for cops, always exaggerating the story. 

 

TL;DR, Stop watching the news and being sheeps and pay attention to the facts as they're presented to you. 

​I think you mean MSNBC.  FOX is a good Republican news network.  FOX reports the truth unlike MSNBC, NBC, CNN, ect.

​I think you mean MSNBC.  FOX is a good Republican news network.  FOX reports the truth unlike MSNBC, NBC, CNN, ect.

Agreed. Fox News will tell you what you don't want to hear, the truth. People are just looking for reasons to pull the race card. I'm getting sick and tired of the whole, "We're tired of this, black lives matter" bull shit. ALL lives matter, and it's the media that's adding fuel to the fire. People open an article, see that the title says an unarmed black man was killed, then they go and protest. It's annoying as shit, and I'm tired of it. 

​I think you mean MSNBC.  FOX is a good Republican news network.  FOX reports the truth unlike MSNBC, NBC, CNN, ect.

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Agreed. Fox News will tell you what you don't want to hear, the truth. People are just looking for reasons to pull the race card. I'm getting sick and tired of the whole, "We're tired of this, black lives matter" bull shit. ALL lives matter, and it's the media that's adding fuel to the fire. People open an article, see that the title says an unarmed black man was killed, then they go and protest. It's annoying as shit, and I'm tired of it. 

​Please tell me these comments were sarcastic. Fox is a horrible news network, I have never seen so much bullshit and hypocrisy come out of one news network. I strongly dislike CNN and MSNBC as well but at least they don't contradict themselves on a regular basis. I rarely go to any of those news networks for my news, I go to BBC to get an outside perspective on the situation. However this is a conversation for a different topic.

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​Please tell me these comments were sarcastic. Fox is a horrible news network, I have never seen so much bullshit and hypocrisy come out of one news network. I strongly dislike CNN and MSNBC as well but at least they don't contradict themselves on a regular basis. I rarely go to any of those news networks for my news, I go to BBC to get an outside perspective on the situation. However this is a conversation for a different topic.

​No, they were serious comments.

​No, they were serious comments.

​Lol, there were too many good clips to choose from but I think I'll pick this one today.

 

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​Please tell me these comments were sarcastic. Fox is a horrible news network, I have never seen so much bullshit and hypocrisy come out of one news network. I strongly dislike CNN and MSNBC as well but at least they don't contradict themselves on a regular basis. I rarely go to any of those news networks for my news, I go to BBC to get an outside perspective on the situation. However this is a conversation for a different topic.

Another great channel to get an outside view which is unrelated to both the American and European media is Russia's version of CNN, RT. They are a good news network for getting facts and unbiased information on worldwide situations

Another great channel to get an outside view which is unrelated to both the American and European media is Russia's version of CNN, RT. They are a good news network for getting facts and unbiased information on worldwide situations

I actually beg to differ with you on this. RT depicted the Baltimore riots as America on its hands and knees. It also made Baltimore seem as if it was in some sort of military and police occupation. 

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​Please tell me these comments were sarcastic. Fox is a horrible news network, I have never seen so much bullshit and hypocrisy come out of one news network. I strongly dislike CNN and MSNBC as well but at least they don't contradict themselves on a regular basis. I rarely go to any of those news networks for my news, I go to BBC to get an outside perspective on the situation. However this is a conversation for a different topic.

​BBC?  Are you kidding me?  They are not as unbiased as you think.  It is a left leaning organization.  FOX is the only news that is trustworthy that I know of.