​Its a very emotional issue for a lot of people, its not really fair to ask them all to be completely logical in the middle of that anger.

​It's very fair. It's logical for a person not to run from a cop during a traffic stop. Just because your'e angry and don't want to deal with the process, it's ok for you to take off from the stop?

They have the right to speak freely their opinion, but they don't have the right to attack cops, burn their cars and destroy business' and loot. 

​Nobody is saying they do...

​It's very fair. It's logical for a person not to run from a cop during a traffic stop. Just because your'e angry and don't want to deal with the process, it's ok for you to take off from the stop?

​This is a nation-wide issue, though. Its not as black and white as the traffic stop example. They have the right to protest and the right to be as angry as they like while doing it, up until the point where violence happens. That's all I'm saying: that the police need to be more sensitive and responsible when dealing with situations like these. 

​I'm talking about the memorials, since its technically a form of free speech.

So by trampling on that memorial, aren't you doing a disservice to the people that have died for their right to put up that memorial?

 

Not necessarily. I don't have a problem with their freedom to speech, I have a problem with what they're saying. Just because you have the right to say or do something doesn't mean that you should. Sure, I'd defend their right to place a memorial in the street with my life; but that doesn't mean that I have to agree with their memorial. They have the right to place the memorial, good and dandy. But I think the memorial is bull shit so I'd probably walk across it. When I said I'd trample the memorial, I didn't mean that literally. I said it to demonstrate how I felt on the entire situation in Ferguson. My hey have the right to an opinion, but I also have the right to a counter opinion. 

Look at it as a debate in a school classroom. If I and another student disagree, I'll defend the other students right to share his opinion, but once he shares his opinion I'm going to shoot it down like its nothing. 

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Not necessarily. I don't have a problem with their freedom to speech, I have a problem with what they're saying. Just because you have the right to say or do something doesn't mean that you should. Sure, I'd defend their right to place a memorial in the street with my life; but that doesn't mean that I have to agree with their memorial. They have the right to place the memorial, good and dandy. But I think the memorial is bull shit so I'd probably walk across it. When I said I'd trample the memorial, I didn't mean that literally. I said it to demonstrate how I felt on the entire situation in Ferguson. 

Look at it as a debate in a school classroom. If I and another student disagree, I'll defend the other students right to share his opinion, but once he shares his opinion I'm going to shoot it down like its nothing. 

​Glad to see we're on the same page. I didn't see your saying you would trample on the memorial as a metaphor lol. 

​Glad to see we're on the same page. I didn't see your saying you would trample on the memorial as a metaphor lol. 

I had an F average in English while in school. :P

​This is a nation-wide issue, though. Its not as black and white as the traffic stop example. They have the right to protest and the right to be as angry as they like while doing it, up until the point where violence happens. That's all I'm saying: that the police need to be more sensitive and responsible when dealing with situations like these. 

​Baltimore cops were much more responsible and more sensitive than the St. Louis county cops and you know what happened at the end of that. Over 100 cops hospitalized and cops were forced to watch the city go to shit because of orders from city officials(allegedly). So being more "sensitive and responsible" isn't really the best plan of action imo

I had an F average in English while in school. :P

​How dafuq is that possible:0

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​Baltimore cops were much more responsible and more sensitive than the St. Louis county cops and you know what happened at the end of that. Over 100 cops hospitalized and cops were forced to watch the city go to shit because of orders from city officials(allegedly) 

​It's a dangerous job. We pay them to risk their safety to enforce the laws. Sure, they might be safer if they disregard all sensitivity and common decency, but that is bad policing, and does nothing to help the situation in the long-term.

And all that I found are those allegations were articles on Breitbart and InfoWars.....so I'm not ready to believe that.

​It's a dangerous job. We pay them to risk their safety to enforce the laws. Sure, they might be safer if they disregard all sensitivity and common decency, but that is bad policing, and does nothing to help the situation in the long-term.

And all that I found are those allegations were articles on Breitbart and InfoWars.....so I'm not ready to believe that.

​Bad policing is letting a hundred of your men get injured in order to protect political correctness.

​This is a nation-wide issue, though. Its not as black and white as the traffic stop example. They have the right to protest and the right to be as angry as they like while doing it, up until the point where violence happens. That's all I'm saying: that the police need to be more sensitive and responsible when dealing with situations like these. 

​How do you think the police feel?  How come the protesters aren't sensitive toward the police?  Do you know how emotionally distressed police feel now?  They are scared to shoot or even subdue an attacking suspect with force because they know the media will give them hell to pay.  Police are people too.  I don't see police causing chaos when Officer Brian Moore was shot in the face and was killed.  All I see are cops trying to do their job to the best of their abilities.

​It's a dangerous job. We pay them to risk their safety to enforce the laws. Sure, they might be safer if they disregard all sensitivity and common decency, but that is bad policing, and does nothing to help the situation in the long-term.

And all that I found are those allegations were articles on Breitbart and InfoWars.....so I'm not ready to believe that.

​The Sheriff of Wicomico County said it himself on the radio. I personally believe it and am not surprised if it's true.

​Bad policing is letting a hundred of your men get injured in order to protect political correctness.

How exactly does political correctness play into this?

 

​How do you think the police feel?  How come the protesters aren't sensitive toward the police?  Do you know how emotionally distressed police feel now?  They are scared to shoot or even subdue an attacking suspect with force because they know the media will give them hell to pay.  Police are people too.  I don't see police causing chaos when Officer Brian Moore was shot in the face and was killed.  All I see are cops trying to do their job to the best of their abilities.

People who kill cops and cops who kill people are treated completely differently in our justice system.

​Baltimore cops were much more responsible and more sensitive than the St. Louis county cops and you know what happened at the end of that. Over 100 cops hospitalized and cops were forced to watch the city go to shit because of orders from city officials(allegedly). So being more "sensitive and responsible" isn't really the best plan of action imo

​How dafuq is that possible:0

​I never understood the fucking concept, lol. I would sit there and could speak English better than the entire class, with the exception of the instructor, but I couldn't understand what the hell I was writing when it came to that shit. To this day I still don't give a rats ass about any of that, and anyone that tries to explain it to me is going to be met with me turning my back. lol.

How exactly does political correctness play into this?

 

​Because it was politically correct to not be heavy handed with the protesters, resulting in a situation much worse than Ferguson was.

​Because it was politically correct to not be heavy handed with the protesters, resulting in a situation much worse than Ferguson was.

​If its politically correct to not be heavy-handed with peaceful protesters, then I guess I am politically correct.

I'm all for going after looters with tear gas and batons, because they're criminals. But these people are NOT the criminals:

 

​If its politically correct to not be heavy-handed with peaceful protesters, then I guess I am politically correct.

I'm all for going after looters with tear gas and batons, because they're criminals. But these people are NOT the criminals:

 

​If they block traffic, making me late to work, I'm going to call the cops. 

​If its politically correct to not be heavy-handed with peaceful protesters, then I guess I am politically correct.

I'm all for going after looters with tear gas and batons, because they're criminals. But these people are NOT the criminals

 

​Key word there: "Peaceful." Peaceful protesters didn't injure 100 cops.

And I can post pretty pictures with no context too:

 

 

 

​Key word there: "Peaceful." Peaceful protesters didn't injure 100 cops.

And I can post pretty pictures with no context too:

Yes...the key word is peaceful. You're the one that wants to send in the APCs to those peaceful protests, remember? ​

And the context can be found in the pictures...you can clearly see in both sets of pictures the difference between a peaceful protest and a violent one. Based on that difference, the police response should be different.

Yes...the key word is peaceful. You're the one that wants to send in the APCs to those peaceful protests, remember? ​

And the context can be found in the pictures...you can clearly see in both sets of pictures the difference between a peaceful protest and a violent one. Based on that difference, the police response should be different.

​Your posts were showing peaceful protests. Mine were showing riots. The difference between those photos is only time. A rather large percentage of those peaceful protests turned violent enough to warrant a more heavy response from the police. Based on those protests often turning violent, the police response should be the same in terms of staging equipment.