Alright look some might be offended at what my opinion is but as a warning if your offended by my religion don't reply, message me, talk crap, Ect. I Don't care. As a Christian, I believe that that baby is a soul that you are "aborting". which is wrong in my opinion. I'm not here to argue, so don't bother quoting me for a reply.

It should most definitely be legal but shouldn't be forced on anybody. It's up to the mother and what she wants to do.

 

I mean why not killing all the guys in wheelchairs then? If we wanna keep them from suffering? Right because they are humans with the right to live. Why are we making a diffrence there?

 

It's probably because those people have usually come to accept their fate and they can actually express it. I get where you're going but you can't really compare an adult human being to a baby still developing inside their mother. It isn't the same by far.

Edited November 3, 201411 yr by Olanov

Abortion should be legal. Furthermore, it should not be up to the government to decide on what the mother wants to do with their own bodies.

 

Cheers.

I don't even know why people forget to use precautions and end up in situations like these. Babies are like speeches, easy to conceive, hard to deliver. But my take is- deliver it once you've conceived it. Because it was your fault that you didn't think it over in the first place, and now you have no right to kill something which isn't even born to defend itself and like I said, is a result of your negligence. Consider it a penalty. Heck you can throw him/her in an orphanage after delivering it. Who knows you could change your mind by the time he/she comes into this world?

 

I think it is wrong, but should be up to the mother. When you abort a baby, you are killing a human being.

It should be illegal, your killing a living baby like it's just trash. You can't just say ''Damn I'm pregnant I'll just have it taken out''  If you can't afford to be a new mother keep your pants on!

 

 

 

To all people saying it's a life and it's killing a human being to do an abortion: an embryo is NOT a human being, nor a life. At this state, it's just a natural process of reproduction, just a bunch of cells grouping up and duplicating, without consciousness nor personal needs. If anything, it could be compared to a parasite. Abortion can only happen during a short time after the fertilization, and thus the baby isn't developped. It doesn't have a head, nor a face, nor limbs, nor organs, nothing. It's just a bunch of cells sticked together, nothing more. So I don't see, from this point, how it is "killing a human being" once you accept this fact. Or, if we go that way, killing bees is wrong because it's life, killing spiders is wrong because it's life, etc.

 

Besides, you all talk about "teen moms" and unaware people. But have you ever heard of accidents, when a comdom breaks? Or rape? Do you think someone's life should be ruined by an early baby just because a comdom broke or they got raped? Do you think it's normal that the mother should be forced to keep the baby and will see the face of her rapist each time she'll look at it? I don't think so, and it's inhuman to think that a woman should be forced to do such. You talk about killing a life, but you should learn to respect other's lives in the first place.

 

It's a life damnit. It's not about it beeing your body. You should have thought about that befor u let someone cum inside of ya without a condom. There's a gawd damn baby inside of ya. A little human.

What kind of message are we sending our kids here? The 16 year old Teen-Girls?

"Yeah sure let some dude fuck you without protection. Dosen't matter. we can always get rid of it"

Thats just wrong. where is the respect for life here?

 

If you can't raise your child you can always give it away. Do you know how many people out there WANT kids but can't make 'em? Killing the life inside of you is just wrong.

I'm an atheist. So my opinion has nothing to do with god or something like that. It's just murder. Abortion should be banned

You sir, are my favorite reply in this entire topic. Why? Let's see. You say that abortion is killing a life and all that. For that, I gave my opinion above. You talk about respect of life? Why don't you respect other people's lives then by their freedom of choice when it comes to abortion? Same, I gave my opinion above. And finally, you say that if you can't raise your child, you can always give it away. Do you think it's better than abortion? Really? So, you give birth and give the baby away to an orphanage. Do you think this baby will be happy? To be left without parents? In an orphanage where we know that a good part of the kids turn bad? So you consider that instead of abortion (which is not killing a life, since it's not a life, see above for details), we should let a kid live a life or torment? Sorry but no. THAT, is wrong, not abortion.

Edited November 3, 201411 yr by Hystery

You sir, are my favorite reply in this entire topic. Why? Let's see. You say that abortion is killing a life and all that. For that, I gave my opinion above.

So did i

You talk about respect of life? Why don't you respect other people's lives then by their freedom of choice when it comes to abortion?

Because in the moment you are pregnant it is NOT your decision anymore. You gave up that right by becoming pregnant. You are the one who had the fun. Now live with the consequences. In the Year 2014 everyone should be able to use a condom, or at least pull it out befor you cum. This isn't 1635, where people had nothing to protect themself. Of course that dosen't counts for rape victims. But generally spoken yeah.

And finally, you say that if you can't raise your child, you can always give it away. Do you think it's better than abortion? Really? So, you give birth and give the baby away to an orphanage. Do you think this baby will be happy? To be left without parents? In an orphanage where we know that a good part of the kids turn bad?

Yes. It's better than killing it without it having the chance to live or make his own decisions. Of course it's not an easy life. But it is a life after all. And don't forget that not every orphane will stay one. there are lots of kids every year getting adopted to loving Families. It's better than ending a life before it has begun.

So you consider that instead of abortion (which is not killing a life, since it's not a life, see above for details), we should let a kid live a life or torment? Sorry but no. THAT, is wrong, not abortion.

See all the text above

It should be illegal, your killing a living baby like it's just trash. You can't just say ''Damn I'm pregnant I'll just have it taken out''  If you can't afford to be a new mother keep your pants on!

And what happens when the mother was raped, and has twins that she can't afford?

Totally up to the mother. Who am I to tell someone how to run their life. 

Alright look some might be offended at what my opinion is but as a warning if your offended by my religion don't reply, message me, talk crap, Ect. I Don't care. As a Christian, I believe that that baby is a soul that you are "aborting". which is wrong in my opinion. I'm not here to argue, so don't bother quoting me for a reply.

 

Religion shouldn't be factor when talking about abortion, this is a serious discussion and using the 'religion' argument is not a good argument at all mainly because religion and politics don't go hand in hand.   

And what happens when the mother was raped, and has twins that she can't afford?

 

Rape is different than just casual sex.

To all people saying it's a life and it's killing a human being to do an abortion: an embryo is NOT a human being, nor a life. At this state, it's just a natural process of reproduction, just a bunch of cells grouping up and duplicating, without consciousness nor personal needs. If anything, it could be compared to a parasite.

Abortion can only happen during a short time after the fertilization, and thus the baby isn't developped. It doesn't have a head, nor a face, nor limbs, nor organs, nothing. It's just a bunch of cells sticked together, nothing more. So I don't see, from this point, how it is "killing a human being" once you accept this fact. Or, if we go that way, killing bees is wrong because it's life, killing spiders is wrong because it's life, etc.

Human being or not, its living. Killing is killing and there's no excuse for that. Period.

And yes, its wrong to kill bees and spiders. Had you been taught otherwise since your childhood, or there were laws protecting the right to life of these "parasites" you won't be here using them as an example. Trust me.

Its just that its not possible to make and enforce laws to ensure the right to life's safety of every damn living thing out there. Its a perilous mistake if you think that they deserve anything less than you as far as the right to life is concerned.

 

Besides, you all talk about "teen moms" and unaware people. But have you ever heard of accidents, when a comdom breaks? Or rape? Do you think someone's life should be ruined by an early baby just because a comdom broke or they got raped? Do you think it's normal that the mother should be forced to keep the baby and will see the face of her rapist each time she'll look at it? I don't think so, and it's inhuman to think that a woman should be forced to do such. You talk about killing a life, but you should learn to respect other's lives in the first place.

Those are exceptional cases, you're talking about. I can speak for everyone else you quoted along with me, that we didn't speak what we spoke in that context.

Also, probably you have never met a rape-victim. Most I've met, would rather keep the baby. A mother's instinct, in most cases, is more overwhelming than "seeing the rapist's face in your own child".

Lastly,

 

You talk about killing a life, but you should learn to respect other's lives in the first place.

Likewise. Besides, "respecting someone's life" is not enough to justify "killing a life". How can you even compare those two? Like I said, killing is killing. Putting on the "mah life mah rulez" mask ain't gonna help.

Edited November 3, 201411 yr by Troy

This is turning into one of those topics where I need popcorn to continue scrolling down.

Human being or not, its living. Killing is killing and there's no excuse for that. Period.

And yes, its wrong to kill bees and spiders. Had you been taught otherwise since your childhood, or there were laws protecting the right to life of these "parasites" you won't be here using them as an example. Trust me.

Its just that its not possible to make and enforce laws to ensure the right to life's safety of every damn living thing out there. Its a perilous mistake if you think that they deserve anything less than you as far as the right to life is concerned.

 

So if a spider is coming after me and i stomp the crap out of it, is it still wrong that i killed it?

There are several reasons why I believe in abortions 100%.

 

Firstly, seeing as rape has been mention a few times. If a women is raped, shall she be forced to carry her attackers child, providing, struggling and being constantly reminded of such an event? I think mentally, if I put myself in a victims shoes (which obviously I can not such a thing yet I still have a basic concept of the feeling) that this would be emotionally and physically horrible.

 

Secondly, for economic reasons. Especially with younger adults and teens, sex is great, yet the amount of problems and accidental births is pretty extreme. If abortions were illegal, imagine the amount of teenage pregnancy's. They wouldn't be able to provide for the child either, leading the child to onto a bath path of life. The life for the young parents would most likely be 'over' (I use that word very lightly). There could be problems with the parents of the now mother/father and chances are, he wouldn't even stick around! I heard a statistic a while ago on the radio saying that a child at a young age (presumably at youthful dependent age) that the child would cost of £100,000 is various expenses. Bullying I can imagine being a big problems for the younger mothers too. It's not safe for them either and labor can become very dangerous.

 

Thirdly, until there is solid proof (there may already be some I am unaware of) that the child is fully, mentally aware that it is alive and contentious I would not ever consider making abortions illegal. IF they were illegal, you'd see a spike in 'back street abortions'. You know what I'm on about, the old wire coat hanger and a towel. This in its self is absolutely barbaric and would cause many unnecessary deaths of BOTH mother + child and would help fund illegal activity. You'd be surprised at the lengths that people will go to hide things or prevent such things happening, especially due to the economic drawback it would cause.

 

 

To all people saying it's a life and it's killing a human being to do an abortion: an embryo is NOT a human being, nor a life. At this state, it's just a natural process of reproduction, just a bunch of cells grouping up and duplicating, without consciousness nor personal needs. If anything, it could be compared to a parasite. Abortion can only happen during a short time after the fertilization, and thus the baby isn't developped. It doesn't have a head, nor a face, nor limbs, nor organs, nothing. It's just a bunch of cells sticked together, nothing more. So I don't see, from this point, how it is "killing a human being" once you accept this fact. Or, if we go that way, killing bees is wrong because it's life, killing spiders is wrong because it's life, etc.

As a Christian (Catholic), we believe that as soon as the baby begins development it gets a soul. And even though it is an embryo, it is still a human being. It doesn't matter what stage it is in.

As a Christian (Catholic), we believe that as soon as the baby begins development it gets a soul. And even though it is an embryo, it is still a human being. It doesn't matter what stage it is in.

That's your religion, again i don't see why that's being brought up.

Religion shouldn't be factor when talking about abortion, this is a serious discussion and using the 'religion' argument is not a good argument at all mainly because religion and politics don't go hand in hand.   

I disagree. When you say "this is a serious topic, and using the 'religion' argument is not a good argument" does that mean you don't take religion seriously? Also, I think this is a religious matter as the Catholic church has many doctrines about abortion and why it is bad.

 

I disagree. When you say "this is a serious topic, and using the 'religion' argument is not a good argument" does that mean you don't take religion seriously? Also, I think this is a religious matter as the Catholic church has many doctrines about abortion and why it is bad.

 

 

Don't you ever look past your religion? Surely you must think, which is more logical for me to do. Put yourself in the position of a mother that has become pregnant through no fault of your own, you don't really have much money, you didn't anticipate a child and you're on your own. This is also after considering the 9 months of pregnancy and all the hassle, and negative thing that come from it. Are you seriously not going to do anything and let that baby grown and develop, bringing it into this world, knowing you can't provide for it and you can not give a satisfactory quality of life, simply because it's against your (generalization, not personalization use of your) religion? Do you really think that, that semi developed baby, 4 months into pregnancy (or whatever stage) is going to realise weather it be alive or 'dead' - which I don't really understand as the baby isn't exactly alive, alive. Yes, physically, sure, the babies alive, but mentally? No.

Don't you ever look past your religion? Surely you must think, which is more logical for me to do. Put yourself in the position of a mother that has become pregnant through no fault of your own, you don't really have much money, you didn't anticipate a child and you're on your own. This is also after considering the 9 months of pregnancy and all the hassle, and negative thing that come from it. Are you seriously not going to do anything and let that baby grown and develop, bringing it into this world, knowing you can't provide for it and you can not give a satisfactory quality of life, simply because it's against your (generalization, not personalization use of your) religion? Do you really think that, that semi developed baby, 4 months into pregnancy (or whatever stage) is going to realise weather it be alive or 'dead' - which I don't really understand as the baby isn't exactly alive, alive. Yes, physically, sure, the babies alive, but mentally? No.

 

When I stated that above, they answered me "You can give birth to the baby and give it away", which is, to me, a cruel thing to do, actually a lot worse than "death" (I keep using quotes on death since an embryo does NOT fit the "human being" description). But you know, they have a different state of mind. That's why I dislike when religion is brought into such debates, people stop thinking rationally and become blinded by their beliefs, whatever it might be.

Don't you ever look past your religion? Surely you must think, which is more logical for me to do. Put yourself in the position of a mother that has become pregnant through no fault of your own, you don't really have much money, you didn't anticipate a child and you're on your own. This is also after considering the 9 months of pregnancy and all the hassle, and negative thing that come from it. Are you seriously not going to do anything and let that baby grown and develop, bringing it into this world, knowing you can't provide for it and you can not give a satisfactory quality of life, simply because it's against your (generalization, not personalization use of your) religion? Do you really think that, that semi developed baby, 4 months into pregnancy (or whatever stage) is going to realise weather it be alive or 'dead' - which I don't really understand as the baby isn't exactly alive, alive. Yes, physically, sure, the babies alive, but mentally? No.

Well, I see where you are coming from, but I think if someone is going to be stupid enough to risk it, then they should take all responsibility for the child even if it was an accident. And if they can't take care of it, put it up for adoption. I respect atheists and such but at the same time I ask the same from them. (Not saying that you are being disrespectful)

 

When I stated that above, they answered me "You can give birth to the baby and give it away", which is, to me, a cruel thing to do, actually a lot worse than "death" (I keep using quotes on death since an embryo does NOT fit the "human being" description). But you know, they have a different state of mind. That's why I dislike when religion is brought into such debates, people stop thinking rationally and become blinded by their beliefs, whatever it might be.

It's funny to me that you expect religious people not to express their beliefs. We aren't "blinded". We have every right to religion as you have the right to believe in no God. I am not afraid to express my beliefs, even if people are going to criticize me. Now, as I stated before and I state again, my religion is against abortion. Therefore, I am against abortion. Just because I have a religion does not mean that I lack rational thinking.

 

 Now, as I stated before and I state again, my religion is against abortion. Therefore, I am against abortion. Just because I have a religion does not mean that I lack rational thinking.

 

Well, following such a logic -is- lacking of rationality. If your religion told you "We say the devil eats chocolate, so you must not eat it", you'd follow the rule without second thought. Indeed you're free to believe in whatever you want to, like everyone, but people believing in a religion lack the ability to stand back and think twice about what they are told.

 

But anyway, that's not the topic, I'll close the parenthesis on my end.