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Before the background conversation in the video was widely known, a supposed friend of the wife of Darren Wilson (the cop who shot Brown) called into a radio show and gave a similar story, that she said Wilson's wife told her:

 

He pulled up ahead of them. And then he got a call-in that there was a strong-arm robbery. And, they gave a description. And, he’s looking at them and they got something in their hands and it looks like it could be what, you know those cigars or whatever. So he goes in reverse back to them. Tries to get out of his car. They slam his door shut violently. I think he said Michael did. And, then he opened the car again. He tried to get out. He stands up.
 
And then Michael just bum-rushes him and shoves him back into his car. Punches him in the face and them Darren grabs for his gun. Michael grabbed for the gun. At one point he got the gun entirely turned against his hip. And he shoves it away. And the gun goes off.
 
Well, then Michael takes off and gets to be about 35 feet away. And, Darren’s first protocol is to pursue. So, he stands up and yells, “Freeze!” Michael and his friend turn around. And Michael taunts him… And then all the sudden he just started bumrushing him. He just started coming at him full speed. And, so he just started shooting. And, he just kept coming. And, so he really thinks he was on something.”

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I like how that person tells them in very specific detail what happened as if they were there. I'm very skeptical of that quote and personally I couldn't give two shits about what anyone other than law enforcement officials and eye witnesses (reliable eye witnesses) have to say about what happened, everyone else is just talking out their ass and speculating what happened then trying to twist it into a fact.

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I like how that person tells them in very specific detail what happened as if they were there. I'm very skeptical of that quote and personally I couldn't give two shits about what anyone other than law enforcement officials and eye witnesses (reliable eye witnesses) have to say about what happened, everyone else is just talking out their ass and speculating what happened then trying to twist it into a fact.

 

True, we won't know what actually happened until the investigation is complete and the findings, supported by evidence, have been released.

 

But, based on the evidence and information that has already been disclosed, the events described in that version of the story seem more likely to be closer to the truth than any statement made by any of the other "eye witnesses" on the street.

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The preliminary results of an autopsy performed by Dr Michael Baden, who did an additional autopsy at the request of the family, have just been released.

 

According to the report, Michael Brown was shot 6 times, with all the entrance wounds at the front of his body. This pokes a major hole in the witness accounts saying Brown was shot in the back running.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html

 

Here is an interesting quote from it that could support both sides of the story:

 

 

 

“This one here looks like his head was bent downward,” he said, indicating the wound at the very top of Mr. Brown’s head. “It can be because he’s giving up, or because he’s charging forward at the officer.”

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The preliminary results of an autopsy performed by Dr Michael Baden, who did an additional autopsy at the request of the family, has just been released.

According to the report, Michael Brown was shot 6 times, with all the entrance wounds at the front of his body. This pokes a major hole in the witness accounts saying Brown was shot in the back running.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html

Here is an interesting quote from it that could support both sides of the story:

Interesting, I also read the report, I personally think he was giving up, but then again still waiting for the investigation to be completed.

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Interesting, I also read the report, I personally think he was giving up, but then again still waiting for the investigation to be completed.

But for an angle from the top of the head into the collarbone, the cop would've had to have been directly over Brown. None of the witnesses have said Wilson was that close.

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But for an angle from the top of the head into the collarbone, the cop would've had to have been directly over Brown. None of the witnesses have said Wilson was that close.

True true, you know how funny the eye witness a.k.a the accomplice said brown was shot ten times, you were right the accomplice isn't a very well founded witness.

"I'm a marked man, so I'm getting out of here"

 

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But for an angle from the top of the head into the collarbone, the cop would've had to have been directly over Brown. None of the witnesses have said Wilson was that close.

 

 

Correct.  Or bent over on his knees.  Or coming at the officer with forward momentum which causes him to fall forward after being shot a few times then allowing the last bullet fired to hit him on the top of the head.  Which is exactly what I think happened.

 

Remember....as an officer you shoot till the threat stops.  A 6'4 300 man can take a few shots to the arm and keep coming.  The one into his chest on the right side is the one that probably caused him to start to fall while the last bullet that hit him in the head was either already in the air or just about to be fired.  Once he hit the ground the officer stops firing as the threat has been stopped.

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True true, you know how funny the eye witness a.k.a the accomplice said brown was shot ten times, you were right the accomplice isn't a very well founded witness.

I'm sure he would have indicated if the cop had stood over Brown and pointed his gun down at a 90 degree angle.

 

Or, based on other accounts that have not been debunked, that would mean that Brown was charging forward with his head lowered and pointing towards the officer.

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I'm sure he would have indicated if the cop had stood over Brown and pointed his gun down at a 90 degree angle.

Or, based on other accounts that have not been debunked, that would mean that Brown was charging forward with his head lowered and pointing towards the officer.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing, and to think this all could have been avoided if he haven't robbed the store.

"I'm a marked man, so I'm getting out of here"

 

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Yeah I was thinking the same thing, and to think this all could have been avoided if he haven't robbed the store.

 

The robbery of the store has nothing to do with the way he acted at the scene of the shooting.  That is what got him killed.  

 

None the less we can play the what if game all day.  It won't do us or anyone any good.

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The preliminary results of an autopsy performed by Dr Michael Baden, who did an additional autopsy at the request of the family, have just been released.

 

According to the report, Michael Brown was shot 6 times, with all the entrance wounds at the front of his body. This pokes a major hole in the witness accounts saying Brown was shot in the back running.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html

 

Here is an interesting quote from it that could support both sides of the story:

 

Oh, how completely surprising. /s

 

The robbery of the store has nothing to do with the way he acted at the scene of the shooting.  That is what got him killed.  

 

None the less we can play the what if game all day.  It won't do us or anyone any good.

 

Well, his life actions in general really seemed to be at fault. I haven't made an effort to read about his criminal history, but it probably didn't start with that robbery.

 

Inb4 people crying about US being a police state.

 

There's always a second half to "escalation"; these people forget that.

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     National Guard,  State police etc,     just need to crack down and crush this already, its a war  zone as is really watching the news people firing off rd's / shooting round the city, firing gun's at   Law Enforcement,  civilian's shooting each other, molotov cock tail's, looting, vandlism, on and on  again they need to crack down declare marshall law etc these people just don't wanna listen or do what the fuck they are told to do no matter who tell's them

 

     It's already been proven that what they say happen to mike brown is not true and police were telling the truth and the major hole's keep popping up Law Enforcement had it right from the get go  now they are just doing this for the hell of it and to get sympathy support its all bout race at this point  and this kid was not the sweet innocent kid they say he was,   like really you never here bout a black cop shooting unarmed white teenager, or firing his weapon or even really here anything involving hispanic officer's

   And before some1 says if this happened to your  family I sure as shit wouldn't act like this and if any1 were to protest on my familie's behalf I'd tell them not to as they are tarnishing his image




 

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http://blog.arrestrecords.com/infographic-the-militarization-of-our-police-forces/

 

What are your thoughts in relation to the events in Missouri and in general?

 

Cheers.

 

"For the most part they go after non violent offenders like drug dealers."

 

>Implying drug dealers aren't a potentional violent threat to arresting officers.

 

I'm glad law enforcers are granted all the army surplus. They need to it to counter the increasing firepower criminals can have. I don't know about you guys, but if I'd be pinned down by heavy gunfire, injured or something, seeing a Bear Cat roll down the street to give me a safe haven to escape, I'd be pretty damn glad.

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Well, his life actions in general really seemed to be at fault. I haven't made an effort to read about his criminal history, but it probably didn't start with that robbery.

 

 

The point is that his life actions have nothing to do with why he was shot.

 

As soon as the facts about the robbery came out the NAACP and Civil Rights activists and even a St. Louis city councilman said something to the effect of  "Yea, he stole the cigars.....but since when was stealing cigars punishable by death!?!?"  The councilman even went on to compare the robbery to drunk driving and said it was like an officer stopping someone for drunk driving, pulling them out of the car and shooting them to death!!!  

 

Are you crazy councilman?!?!?!  This is who is responsible for assisting in running a city?!?!?!?  Wow..........

 

New flash for ya NAACP and Mr. Councilman....He was not shot because he stole cigars (well he really took them by force which equals robbery...anyway) He was not shot for stealing the cigars. He was shot because he assaulted a police officer, fought the police officer for his gun, ran away after the gun went off, then turned and charged at the officer after the officer ordered him to stop.  The officer shot until the threat ended which took 6 shots to the body with the final one being in the head which probably killed him instantly.

 

These people are trying to associate the robbery with the shooting saying the robbery is the reason he was shot.  THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER.  Had there been no robbery and had Mr. Brown acted the same way he did at the scene of the shooting....guess what....he would have still been shot.

 

The robbery does however help the police as it shows the "Gentle Giant" can and will be violent.  This will only corroborate the officers story when it comes out that Mr. Brown assaulted the officer...ran...then charged back at him causing him to shoot.  The family can no longer claim this Giant was always Gentle.  He has a violent side that is seen in the robbery video.  If this ever makes it to trial, the defence team for the officer will make damn sure the jury understands that part.

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