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Youtube is going after Gaming Channels

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people like me upload gameplay and dont want to get paid, i do it for entertainment and fun. Target those people that make porno`s that are illegal and dont have a license for it...

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  • Technically videos of gameplay are covered in the copyright the game publisher has over their game. Youtube *has* to enforce copyright if asked. If they refuse a takedown request, they can become liab

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    I'm pretty sure this only affects users who have monetized game-play videos who aren't partnered with say Machinima (Yes, I know Machinima is crap now. First thing I thought of.) or other partnering c

  • Communism is socialist ideology that aims to create a classless, moneyless and stateless structure, it has nothing to do with communism.       YouTube is forced to take down any videos that is cla

wouldn't video game makers want there games on youtube so it gets more of the game out there so more people see it and buy it?

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Googling is fairly easy, y'know..

 

http://support.google.com/youtube/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=138161

 

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/05/nintendo-kicks-lets-play-videos-off-youtube-then-slaps-ads-on-them/

 

So, yeah. It's at the moment limited to Nintendo, AFAIK.

YouTube/Google doesn't ban members or remove their videos unless they get a copyright complaint from the license owner(in this case Rockstar?).

Blatantly breaking numerous copyrights doesn't really help either(gameplay, music, maybe some movie/TV clips).

IMO, its good in a way. Just see the media section; so many people keep posting hours long gameplay videos. I mwean wtf? Everyone has this game and this mod so everyone knows what it looks and feels like. Its not doing any good to anyone. Its another thing if a specific guy is doing commentary and he is "funny" at times and thats why he's being subbed over and over but that would be a rare case. Right now, all I see is "Plz sub me, I beg u!!!", "A vid I made of LCPDFR. Its pretty impressive if you ask me. Hit the like button below.", "Y I no get more subs? :'(" and shit like that. IMHO, its basically almost useless trash being accumulated over at YT, because there's no point in uploading these "HD" and big file-size videos as only either their own clan members or unemployed, idle people around the world bother to take a glance at them. Yes, they do hit like/subscribe without even watching the video, most of them do it just because the uploader's a friend.

 

Oh my goodness! I have an ultimatum!!!

Don't watch those YouTube videos. Wow, easy as 1.2.3, isn't it? If you don't like watching long videos, don't watch them? 

The system is a bit different:

 

YouTube has a "three strikes" system, your account will be shut down if three of your videos are flagged by their content ID system (depending on the action wanted by the "original creators").

 

Some original creators will disable monetization for the user, instead the ad revenue will go to the original creator.

 

Other creators will add a strike to your account, you can only get three strikes  before your account is indefinitely banned, you will be able to log in and see your own videos, however your channel and videos will not be publicly visible.

 

Each offence can add a strike and you can have three videos flagged in one go and have your account banned.

The Content ID system is done automatically, there's no human interaction, it's nearly impossible to appeal the content ID claim, it is certainly not worth the trouble. There's no way to appeal a ban.

 

Nerdcubed was the centre of one particular incident earlier in the year, he tweeted that a unnamed company had offered him a "substantial amount of money" to present their game in a positive light, some believed he should not have mentioned it at all while others insisted that he revealed who it was and what game they wanted him to play.

Sensibly he stayed quiet about it because his career would be over if he revealed it as the publisher would flag any videos he may have uploaded that has content from the publisher in it.

 

Gaming publishers has the power to terminate YouTube channels at their leisure.

 

 

What's worth taking away from this? Well here's how I see it:

  1. Publishers are trying and possibly succeeding in paying off gamers on YouTube to positively show off their game.
  2. Publishers can hold gaming channels hostage, publishers are free to do as they want.

 

 

I hope that we will soon see a replacement for YouTube, YouTube is turning into a cable provider for the internet in the sense that they are focusing more on large users like Machinima, CBS, BBC, NSA and FBI (ya see what I did there?), they are neglecting smaller channels and individual users and focusing on cooperate customers, all their changes are affected by it, it's getting worse and worse for the individual user.

Wait,WHAT THE FUCK?!

This is slowly evolving into a fucking communism

I don't think you know what communism means. Nor do a lot of other people, for that matter. I can't stand words like 'communist' or 'nazi' being thrown around like they are today.

Back on the main topic, if you fight a DMCA takedown you may tell the YouTube moderators that the video is for social comment and criticism only which is covered under the constitution. This is a legitimate claim so long as your videos are not monetized. This is the only reason I refused to monetize any of my videos a couple of years ago despite the millions of views, for fear that some sweeping action like this might happen.

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Oh my goodness! I have an ultimatum!!!

Don't watch those YouTube videos. Wow, easy as 1.2.3, isn't it? If you don't like watching long videos, don't watch them? 

 

Your signature really justifies what you're saying. "Defending myself because I already upload videos which you're criticizing." LOL!

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Your signature really justifies what you're saying. "Defending myself because I already upload videos which you're criticizing." LOL!

 

Then along with the other videos you have problems with, don't watch them. And this 'communism' thing, is only targeting YouTube video creators that monetize their videos using video games.

Its too bad its come to this to me there is no point to ban a youtube channel for a walkthru of a game or even gameplay.lets hope they change there mine.

 

I've never seen a YouTube channel that doesn't monetize their videos that has been banned for making game-play videos. So many YouTube members do it, how could they ban one person out of thousands, hundred-thousands? Provide an example of these bannings, because honestly I haven't seen one yet. I understand maybe uploading someone else videos without permission or uploading TV shows, but I do not believe that a single person has been completely banned from YouTube for posting video game footage, it's illogical. 

The system is a bit different:

 

YouTube has a "three strikes" system, your account will be shut down if three of your videos are flagged by their content ID system (depending on the action wanted by the "original creators").

 

Some original creators will disable monetization for the user, instead the ad revenue will go to the original creator.

 

Other creators will add a strike to your account, you can only get three strikes  before your account is indefinitely banned, you will be able to log in and see your own videos, however your channel and videos will not be publicly visible.

 

Each offence can add a strike and you can have three videos flagged in one go and have your account banned.

The Content ID system is done automatically, there's no human interaction, it's nearly impossible to appeal the content ID claim, it is certainly not worth the trouble. There's no way to appeal a ban.

 

Nerdcubed was the centre of one particular incident earlier in the year, he tweeted that a unnamed company had offered him a "substantial amount of money" to present their game in a positive light, some believed he should not have mentioned it at all while others insisted that he revealed who it was and what game they wanted him to play.

Sensibly he stayed quiet about it because his career would be over if he revealed it as the publisher would flag any videos he may have uploaded that has content from the publisher in it.

 

Gaming publishers has the power to terminate YouTube channels at their leisure.

 

 

What's worth taking away from this? Well here's how I see it:

  1. Publishers are trying and possibly succeeding in paying off gamers on YouTube to positively show off their game.
  2. Publishers can hold gaming channels hostage, publishers are free to do as they want.

 

 

I hope that we will soon see a replacement for YouTube, YouTube is turning into a cable provider for the internet in the sense that they are focusing more on large users like Machinima, CBS, BBC, NSA and FBI (ya see what I did there?), they are neglecting smaller channels and individual users and focusing on cooperate customers, all their changes are affected by it, it's getting worse and worse for the individual user.

 

Ah I see, this makes more sense now. 

 

However, the main issue seems to be that YouTubers want to make money off their videos now. Everyone complains about the 'old YouTube', yet people still, every chance they get try to make money off a video or put ads on it. What happened to the old Youtube is exactly this... Monetizing videos. This is why YouTube has to get like this, can't be having people making profit off another person(s) product. 

 

But your post NicolaiB makes more sense and clarified it for me.

I contacted Rockstar legal & they gave me a little paragraph to put in my monetized videos that keeps me out of legal trouble.. etc.

Everything needs more lights.

I contacted Rockstar legal & they gave me a little paragraph to put in my monetized videos that keeps me out of legal trouble.. etc.

Mind copying and pasting that here for us so all other YouTubers here can use it please?

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Technically videos of gameplay are covered in the copyright the game publisher has over their game. Youtube *has* to enforce copyright if asked. If they refuse a takedown request, they can become liable for the actions of their users (that's the whole point of DMCA takedowns - Youtube isn't held responsible for their users' content, but only if they do act if it's brought to their attention). So, if they get complaints, it's not like they have a choice.

 

A big problem though, is that YouTube is getting lazy and just taking a company's word for it instead of checking the actual content. Several larger YouTubers have had their content removed even though it was original content. 

And they can dispute that, you always have the opportunity to. Some content creators are just too lazy. lol

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A big problem though, is that YouTube is getting lazy and just taking a company's word for it instead of checking the actual content. Several larger YouTubers have had their content removed even though it was original content.

Youtube actually *can't* do this. The DMCA's safe-harbor provision (which is behind all these takedowns) requires a site to take down content as soon as a takedown request is received. They aren't allowed to independently investigate if they want to take advantage of safe harbor (which they absolutely want to do, as it stops them from being sued). If Youtube doesn't promptly take down the video, they are liable to be sued if it does in fact violate copyright. I'm sure you see why Youtube doesn't want to review every single claim and take that risk if they ever mess up.

That said, the DMCA does require Youtube to promptly notify the uploader, at which point they can file a counter-claim. Youtube then must forward that counter-claim to the original complainant, at which point the complainant has 14 days to file a lawsuit against the uploader (among other things, since both claim and counter-claim are signed under penalty of perjury, *someone* did something illegal in every such case). If the original complainant doesn't file a lawsuit within 14 days, Youtube is legally required to put the video back up. If they don't, the uploader can sue Youtube.

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