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9/11 WTC

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Ok, don't be flaming me. I just didn't want to hear some stupid conspiracy. Calm down, jeez.

Didn't want to cause an uproar here, glad i was loud and clear..

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  • I think it would be best if we agreed to drop all of the controversy and conspiracy theories from this thread, and instead focus on the people that actually died and the wider impact that 9/11 had on

  • Today is the day people. For school I have to travel a lot. Bus and train. On the train station I got out of my first train. While walking down the platform towards my next train I checked my watch. 9

  • you already started with that the government was involved, and we stopped you not to go on with your arguments. i started this to hear about some survival story's not to hear lie's. now quit it and

i will share what i remember from the middle of 2nd grade..

A normal day of classes, we all just got there sitting down doing the kiddie work. Around 9:00 a teacher walks into the room and calls my teacher into the hall. We all keep working since its not uncommon for that to happen. The teacher walks back into the room and with a look that looks like feel mixed with shock. We all looked at her since we had no clue what was happening. Than about 2 mins later she tell us all to stop working for a minute. We all stoped and looked at her. She explained that a plane just hit the WTC. She explained it a little more, this took no longer than 4-5 minutes. Than the teacher walks into the room and tell me teacher that the second tower was hit. Some kids started to cry only 2-3 so they got taken out of the room. We just sat there not knowing how bad it is. Later on in the day more kids got taken out and it wasn't even 11 so i was confused. So my day was normal and when i got home my mom talked to me about what had happened while she was watching tv. All i did was go play with legos or something.

I'm going to post something i found on the internet of someone who was in the second building

Ashton Lee world's crossroad

I was living and working at the World Trade Center on that day, and this is what I remember.

I was a consultant at the time and my office was in Tower Two on the 43rd floor. I had a meeting that morning that was cancelled just the night before. When the first plane struck I was on the 18th floor not yet at my office, I remember looking at a nearby digital clock that read 8:46am. You could feel the building shake, and it was scary, not because the building moved but to the degree that it did. I was used to working on the higher floors of both towers and the Twin Towers were made to sway and move ever so slightly. You could sometimes feel it just a little during periods of heavy wind.

But this time it was different. This was not caused by wind it was a sudden jolt. I looked outside the window and saw what I thought was a piece of metal flying by. My heart and my mind raced. Strange to say this now but I felt VERY ALIVE, while a deep and sudden fear also crept over me.

Fear was soon replaced by a driving need to act. My body was full of adrenaline and my mind was factoring over different scenarios within what must have been a few eye blinks. I recalled seeing a cable show a few weeks back that talked about how the towers were built, their structural make up and particularly their height. I recalled the narrative saying the buildings were so tall that if they were to tip over it would hit or shake New Jersey, I don't recall the exact words but the meaning stuck with me. It became a dominant thought in my head.

I ran for the stairs. I was not the only one. I could hear someone shout that there was a fire. It became very crowded but the exit at this early time was still orderly.

A small crowd started congregating outside the Marriott WTC which was situated right between the two main towers of the World Trade Center area connecting the two buildings. People were dismayed and trying to figure out what was going on. Across the street was the Hudson River. My mind was still in worst case scenario mode; I thought if anything really happened to the buildings here it would be safer by the water than close to the buildings, and I imagined myself jumping in. To prepare myself mentally.

I looked around, people were not moving. Even worse, joggers and nearby pedestrians were heading TOWARD the buildings to see what the commotion was about. I thought, this is madness!

I shouted as loud as I could, "If this building falls it will hit New Jersey! Run!" A lady screamed. I then started running toward the waters of the Hudson alongside Northern Battery Park and others did too. I just wanted to get away far enough to assess the situation from a position of safety.

And I kept running. Looking back I could see dark smoke start to form, it wasn't a good sign. The fear came back but so did the need to act. It was still early and the mobile phone networks had not yet jammed up. I called my sister to let her know that I was ok, that she may see New York in the news but that I was not in the towers, more importantly that I loved everyone and that she should relay this message to our family members and especially my mom.

I needed to get off the island, that was my dominant thought. I headed toward Chelsea Piers, to the ferries I knew were there. Still seeing more people heading toward the commotion I yelled at them, that I just came from there and that they were headed in the wrong direction. Madness.

When I got to the ferries I ran into another friend of mine who ran over from midtown, Times Square. We were there early enough where people had not caught up with what was going on, we still had to wait in line and pay for the ferry crossing.

I was on the ferry in the Hudson River when the first tower fell... It was gut wrenching and surreal. The darkness of the smoke started to envelop the sky. People were crying, trying to call their loved ones, asking questions. A friend of mine would recall to me getting out of the subway stop for the WTC after 9am, while I was still running, he told me it was an image out of hell. He could see people jumping out of the buildings, everywhere there was a mad scramble by that time to get out. I can't fully fathom what his experience must have been like nor would I want to.

Was our country being attacked? No one knew. My friend and I decided that we needed to go somewhere far away, away from big buildings but with solid communication networks, and food supplies. His girlfriend at the time went to Yale University and I thought there was a certain degree of safety within a closed area like a university in a small town. So that became our destination. Close enough to reach yet far enough to regroup.

When we reached Jersey we found a private car. She charged us 300USD or so cash only. I went to the ATM, came back and paid. As we drove further north the skyline behind us became more and more enveloped in black smoke. It was like a scene out of a movie, that's what I was thinking. Phone lines were jammed up by this time. I would later reconnect with family and friends over email from the Yale campus. I turned on the news.

The world, our world, my own world, nothing would ever quite be the same.

THIS IS NOT MINE ALL CREDIT GOES TO http://www.quora.com/9-11/What-did-it-feel-like-to-be-inside-the-World-Trade-Center-at-the-time-of-the-9-11-attacks

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I give you all this picture. If you would join me in making it your profile picture for the rest of the week, It would mean allot.

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guys you are right.. this should be about the victims.. but you need to understand that i can't just let someone telling lies xD

but i promise if c13 will shut up about it i will too

I quit coming back here after people correctly commented that this should be about the victims, whether it was because of government involvement or not. Despite many opportunities to get in more arguments, I decided it would've been in the best interest of the community and this thread to not do that. It was completely unnecessary to continue on with this after people wished for us to stop. Anyone wants to comment on my beliefs, let's take it to PM.

Sticks and stones may break bones, but 5.56 fragments on impact.

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you already started with that the government was involved, and we stopped you not to go on with your arguments.

i started this to hear about some survival story's not to hear lie's.

now quit it and respect 9/11 and US

 

 

you already started with that the government was involved, and we stopped you not to go on with your arguments.

i started this to hear about some survival story's not to hear lie's.

now quit it and respect 9/11 and US

No, people suggested we stop after a page or 2, not immediately, and I immediately ceased it. Before you get on me, you just had to bring it up by claiming I was lying. It is a rule of the internet that whenever 9/11 is mentioned, you will get people saying that it is an inside job.

Where did I lie? Whether you want to admit it or not, the owner of the WTC complex, Larry Silverstein, took out a policy on terrorism just weeks before the attacks that awarded him 7 billion dollars, Lee Hamilton and Thomas Kean of the 9/11 commission stated that it was underfunded and set up to fail, the patriot act was already written before 9/11, the Project for a New American Century called for "a new Pearl Harbor" (similarly, almost 3,000 people died in 9/11). It's not a lie that there happened to be drills about hijackings during the exact same time as the actual attacks, confusing controllers and severely delaying action

Also, one shocking thing I found out when researching 9/11 is that our government has proposed false flag terror attacks before to bring us into war in a proposal called Operation Northwoods in 1963. This suggested hijacking planes and bombings, pinning the blame on Cuban Terrorist to get the American people supporting a war with Cuba. Now why should I respect a government that threatens its citizens lives just to get us involved in a war (and before I get shit for this, I am American, but being patriotic isn't sitting down and shutting up when told to while questioning the government)?

Sticks and stones may break bones, but 5.56 fragments on impact.

c13, just ignore him. Everyone else, ignore c13's most recent post. That is the only actual way to stop this tangent.

The only easy day was yesterday, folks, freedom isn't free.

Time heals wounds, but bad wounds make bad scars.

I can only wish that idiots won't argue about stupid issues in a memorium thread. Please show respect.

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I think it would be best if we agreed to drop all of the controversy and conspiracy theories from this thread, and instead focus on the people that actually died and the wider impact that 9/11 had on the world.

Honestly, it's not worth fighting over who did or planned it because the fundamental principles remain the same - it was an attack on the freedom of everybody and it changed the world completely in so many ways, from allowing governments to invade our privacy, subject us to massive new security measures, trigger religious hatred, start global conflicts and wars and create general distrust around the world. Also, while, yes, this was an attack on American soil, it wasn't just Americans who died, and it wasn't just American values that were attacked. There are many other countries around the world that were hurt just as much by 9/11 and even more so by the things that it changed, so it's worth pointing that out as well.

"You tell me exactly what you want, and I will very carefully explain to you why it cannot be."

I think it would be best if we agreed to drop all of the controversy and conspiracy theories from this thread, and instead focus on the people that actually died and the wider impact that 9/11 had on the world.

Honestly, it's not worth fighting over who did or planned it because the fundamental principles remain the same - it was an attack on the freedom of everybody and it changed the world completely in so many ways, from allowing governments to invade our privacy, subject us to massive new security measures, trigger religious hatred, start global conflicts and wars and create general distrust around the world. Also, while, yes, this was an attack on American soil, it wasn't just Americans who died, and it wasn't just American values that were attacked. There are many other countries around the world that were hurt just as much by 9/11 and even more so by the things that it changed, so it's worth pointing that out as well.

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Off topic: I love when sam makes post like these are add something to the home page.

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I think it would be best if we agreed to drop all of the controversy and conspiracy theories from this thread, and instead focus on the people that actually died and the wider impact that 9/11 had on the world.

Honestly, it's not worth fighting over who did or planned it because the fundamental principles remain the same - it was an attack on the freedom of everybody and it changed the world completely in so many ways, from allowing governments to invade our privacy, subject us to massive new security measures, trigger religious hatred, start global conflicts and wars and create general distrust around the world. Also, while, yes, this was an attack on American soil, it wasn't just Americans who died, and it wasn't just American values that were attacked. There are many other countries around the world that were hurt just as much by 9/11 and even more so by the things that it changed, so it's worth pointing that out as well.

Yes, Sam i agree with you!
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I think it would be best if we agreed to drop all of the controversy and conspiracy theories from this thread, and instead focus on the people that actually died and the wider impact that 9/11 had on the world.

That is why i made this whole thread :p to show respect and to do something on the day on lcpd:FR but we where to late because there was a whole discussion going about the conspiracy's......

anyway.

Is there maybe anybody that got rescued by a firefighter in the WTC ?

Again, thanks guys for showing your story's

 

 

I'm not saying your wrong in believing that the govenment may have connections to the bombings, but I'm not fully convinced that they were behind it. If they were, what were they trying to gain by doing so?

alot of things didnt add up...first they said they never invisioned airplanes being used as missles but yet the military has been training in those scenarios and another thing why did 7 collapse? it wasnt hit by a plane but yet it collapsed and it WASNT due to fire thats just some bs and larry silverstein who owned that building collected insurance on it

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Stop going off-topic.

I think it would be best if we agreed to drop all of the controversy and conspiracy theories from this thread, and instead focus on the people that actually died and the wider impact that 9/11 had on the world.

Honestly, it's not worth fighting over who did or planned it because the fundamental principles remain the same - it was an attack on the freedom of everybody and it changed the world completely in so many ways, from allowing governments to invade our privacy, subject us to massive new security measures, trigger religious hatred, start global conflicts and wars and create general distrust around the world. Also, while, yes, this was an attack on American soil, it wasn't just Americans who died, and it wasn't just American values that were attacked. There are many other countries around the world that were hurt just as much by 9/11 and even more so by the things that it changed, so it's worth pointing that out as well.

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