I don't believe a crap about these all 'inside job' conspirations, why these all burned things? Maybe cuz the impact produced such high temperatures and the debris that fell and expanded throught the area were also so hot??? ...why small explosions along tower? maybe cause the presure and high temperatures made the pipes explode...

Tell me the reason why someone would want to destroy some of your biggest symbols, like were the WTC Towers, making an incredible hurt to all the nation, a constant fear of terrorist attack and provocate 10 years of conflict, that are resulting in a waste of money....

Remember 1993 WTC bombing, back then some islamist also tried to destroy the towers, was that also an inside plan?

If you want a reason for attack a country, blame other people, you just place a bomb in an embassy or a place so, not blowing up some of your biggest symbols and killing thousand of people...

yeah...just like i said.. those conspiracy people always showing ONE side of the story...they hype up what fits into their theorys and cut the rest out...like it would be a prove if some pilots,engineers and what not telling crap...

but i just said everything on page 2 xD

I'm not saying your wrong in believing that the govenment may have connections to the bombings, but I'm not fully convinced that they were behind it. If they were, what were they trying to gain by doing so?

I remember 9/11 like is was yesterday i was 15 years old and in school when the first plane hit! when the 1st plane hit! we are a loud explosion. our school wasnt so far from the world trade center!...mins laters the second tower got hit and the esu emergency sevice unit came to the school and evacuate all school and took us to the battery park park department where they was tons of police,school safty units! Stuyvesant High school was the school i was attending at the time! anyways the wtc was only 2 blocks away! about couple mins later the batttery park department center that we was in started to shake very hard causin some lights and go on and off and all the police officers saying FACE AND KNEEL BY THE WALL AND COVER your heads..... I WAS SCARED and of course at that age wishing mom and dad was there!.... after the trumble and earthquake effect thier was another one mins later! and then it was a moment of silcence! i cant really explain what happen after that cause all i heard was 1 officer yelling and about 90 percent of the nypd and school safty units was sent to wtc! i was stuck in manhatten overnight! in the morning school safty pick all the kids that lived in brooklyn and queens and drop us on new york tech college on jay st in brooklyn were all the parents was waiting !!! that was something that i never want to go thur..... if there is anyone that went to school or live in lower manhatten i know we all can relate to what happen!...................

:PS When we cross the the manhatten bridge manhatten looks like the whole city is on fire! a dark brown smoke that coverd almost the entire sky. the new york guard with humvess armed protecting the bridges and back hawks patroling the harbor! well it looks like black hawks... the overall seen it look a war zone just took place!!!!

if the goverment was behind 9/1 they wouldn't make any mistakes, and if they did it would never been seen by guys that have too much free time.

here is a video of a woman who said that she survived 9/11 and rescued from layer 90 where the plane flew in, it was all a lie, she never been in the WTC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-ZBcPoxJiw

think what you wanna think but come with Proof not with lie's

and new york swat, i know about the grey smoke and the silence in the whole city, it was terrible.

I remember 9/11 like is was yesterday i was 15 years old and in school when the first plane hit! when the 1st plane hit! we are a loud explosion. our school wasnt so far from the world trade center!...mins laters the second tower got hit and the esu emergency sevice unit came to the school and evacuate all school and took us to the battery park park department where they was tons of police,school safty units! Stuyvesant High school was the school i was attending at the time! anyways the wtc was only 2 blocks away! about couple mins later the batttery park department center that we was in started to shake very hard causin some lights and go on and off and all the police officers saying FACE AND KNEEL BY THE WALL AND COVER your heads..... I WAS SCARED and of course at that age wishing mom and dad was there!.... after the trumble and earthquake effect thier was another one mins later! and then it was a moment of silcence! i cant really explain what happen after that cause all i heard was 1 officer yelling and about 90 percent of the nypd and school safty units was sent to wtc! i was stuck in manhatten overnight! in the morning school safty pick all the kids that lived in brooklyn and queens and drop us on new york tech college on jay st in brooklyn were all the parents was waiting !!! that was something that i never want to go thur..... if there is anyone that went to school or live in lower manhatten i know we all can relate to what happen!...................

:PS When we cross the the manhatten bridge manhatten looks like the whole city is on fire! a dark brown smoke that coverd almost the entire sky. the new york guard with humvess armed protecting the bridges and back hawks patroling the harbor! well it looks like black hawks... the overall seen it look a war zone just took place!!!!

that must have been horrible to see

I think is weird that some hijackers passports survived the crash and they find them on sidewalk. also i think its weird that Goverment dosent release cochpit voice recordings or any other data from the aircrafts black boxis. If u look any other air crash accident or hijacking all data is availeble in internet but not in these ones. Im not being disricpectful to people who lost their loved ones in this attack there are also lots of 911 victims families that dosent believe official story. Hope this video will answer the question why. http://www.youtube.c...?v=jl2JQfxnnHU. Well i let this be my last post in this matter. if u guys wanna know about this conspiracy stuff more.. just find it on internet

Edited September 10, 201213 yr by Eclipse1980

You know what guys thiers alot of storys and rumors about 9/11 and honestly i dont know if the goverment had part or what! but 9/11 was plan. and america was warn about it! I dont know if anyone knew but all the jews in new york was home all jewish busniesses and schools was closed! someone knew it was gonna happen and some people got the heads up! and they stayed home and for the reguler people they had no idea this was gonna happen!. so maybe the goverment did had part only the vip people was inform!... again for people in new york im very sure you can relate!

I remember 9/11 like is was yesterday i was 15 years old and in school when the first plane hit! when the 1st plane hit! we are a loud explosion. our school wasnt so far from the world trade center!...mins laters the second tower got hit and the esu emergency sevice unit came to the school and evacuate all school and took us to the battery park park department where they was tons of police,school safty units! Stuyvesant High school was the school i was attending at the time! anyways the wtc was only 2 blocks away! about couple mins later the batttery park department center that we was in started to shake very hard causin some lights and go on and off and all the police officers saying FACE AND KNEEL BY THE WALL AND COVER your heads..... I WAS SCARED and of course at that age wishing mom and dad was there!.... after the trumble and earthquake effect thier was another one mins later! and then it was a moment of silcence! i cant really explain what happen after that cause all i heard was 1 officer yelling and about 90 percent of the nypd and school safty units was sent to wtc! i was stuck in manhatten overnight! in the morning school safty pick all the kids that lived in brooklyn and queens and drop us on new york tech college on jay st in brooklyn were all the parents was waiting !!! that was something that i never want to go thur..... if there is anyone that went to school or live in lower manhatten i know we all can relate to what happen!...................

:PS When we cross the the manhatten bridge manhatten looks like the whole city is on fire! a dark brown smoke that coverd almost the entire sky. the new york guard with humvess armed protecting the bridges and back hawks patroling the harbor! well it looks like black hawks... the overall seen it look a war zone just took place!!!!

Experiencing hell... That made me speechless. Don't really know what to say... Damn... That must have been the worst experience in your entire life. Sorry man.

Must've created one big hole in your heart.

Experiencing hell... That made me speechless. Don't really know what to say... Damn... That must have been the worst experience in your entire life. Sorry man.

Must've created one big hole in your heart.

after that i learn about escape routes in new york city god forbid if that happen again! always carry cash and know your ways aroound the city all the bridges! because that day alot of people slep in parks!!! all trains and bus stop runing all bridges was block off to ciivil traffic.......

Man, that was one hell of a sad day. So many lives have been affected by the tragedy.

what? are you trying to tell me pilots,architects and engineers can't lie too? They just want attention! And there are also pilots,architects and engineers that say your theory is bullshit so this argument is just invaild.

Link me to engineers and pilots saying that the theory is bullshit, and I will apply your logic that they can lie for attention also.

Just read this: http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

WTC7 fell down with little resistance. The collapse was so controversial that it didn't even get mentioned in the 9/11 report and NIST keeps its models for the final report classified. If it actually was caused by fire, why don't they release their model proving it?

Same type of argument as with the pilots and architects and stuff.. i can link you to families saying that they don't belive in your theory.. All your stupid links won't help this conversation because they just show YOUR site of the story...it's not a evidence if someone says there opinion. i watched enough videos from families that where offended by your theory

Go ahead and link them. And I wasn't using families as evidence for the 9/11 truth movement, I was using them to show you that some families DON'T take offense to us conspiracy nutjobs.

every bombing that was made by those islamic terrorists..From small Car Bombs too the big london bombings...We talking about like 300 or more incidents...don't tell me there are all faked...

Claiming that a I would say that all bombings were inside jobs is pretty childish and has little to do with the argument at hand. However, it is interesting to note that the London Bombings, much like 9/11, had simultaneous drills about terror attacks going on. However, these drills were in the same time at the same places.

oh yeah? link me to it.. after all you are spamming around here with links so why is there no link to this?

You wanted a link, here's one:

The Bottom line is.. you spam around links to videos and aticles that just tell your site of the story...

How can i objective listen to people that call them selves stuff like: 9/11 Truth Movement,ae911truth.org or pilotsfor911truth.org

I'm assuming you know how hard it is to find someone who is unbiased on the 9/11 issue.

Edited September 10, 201213 yr by c13

My Theory is that the 9/11 theory is a theory made by the Taliban to make us hate our government than revoke that way we can't do anything. Itsn't it strange that all of Americas most classified secrets were exposted when the wikilieks guy made them public and the only thing that they found about 9/11 was the accented report

The whole story about the inside job is just fake, like darkangle said, if it was a inside job there would be intel or other information about 9/11 on there.

there is allot about other stuff but why not about 9/11??

You wanted a link, here's one:

That video didn't prove much of anything other than that the "bomber" was working with the CIA/Saudi Intelligence at one time. Doesn't prove that the American government had anything to do with the attempted bombing itself.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57430472/would-be-underwear-bomber-a-double-agent/

The "bomber" was a double agent "playing" for both sides. I'm sure Al-Qaeda offered him some incentive to carry out the attacks it also helps that he was a dedicated and hardcore jihadist who hated the West with a passion.

If you read into the actual reports released by two government agencies; you will find that the attack was known for quite some time but US officials did not want to intervene because the "bomber" can lead them to a larger plan for a larger attack.

As for this whole 9/11 conspiracy, I don't personally believe in any of these conspiracies simply because there is an explanation for everything.

Example:

I mean yes the government probably knew of the attacks before hand and just shelved it simply because it sounded absurd or far fetched (I mean who would think of flying two planes into the WTC, a plane into the Pentagon and a another into the White House?) before that the majority of terrorists just hijacked planes, landed and listed demands or blew em up in mid-air. That's the pissing contest between different agencies and government bureaucracy.

That video didn't prove much of anything other than that the "bomber" was working with the CIA/Saudi Intelligence at one time. Doesn't prove that the American government had anything to do with the attempted bombing itself.

http://www.cbsnews.c...a-double-agent/

The "bomber" was a double agent "playing" for both sides. I'm sure Al-Qaeda offered him some incentive to carry out the attacks it also helps that he was a dedicated and hardcore jihadist who hated the West with a passion.

If you read into the actual reports released by two government agencies; you will find that the attack was known for quite some time but US officials did not want to intervene because the "bomber" can lead them to a larger plan for a larger attack.

As for this whole 9/11 conspiracy, I don't personally believe in any of these conspiracies simply because there is an explanation for everything.

Example:

I mean yes the government probably knew of the attacks before hand and just shelved it simply because it sounded absurd or far fetched (I mean who would think of flying two planes into the WTC, a plane into the Pentagon and a another into the White House?) before that the majority of terrorists just hijacked planes, landed and listed demands or blew em up in mid-air. That's the pissing contest between different agencies and government bureaucracy.

But they are failing to point out that he was assisted into getting onto the plane, despite having no passport. The entire underwear bomber issue was used as an incentive to roll out TSA sexual assaults and also naked body scanners. What is the point in following someone who believes he is on a suicide mission? Wouldn't it of made more sense to arrest him outside of the airport for attempting to blow up an airplane instead of escorting him through security?

Also, the idea of planes being used as projectiles wasn't new for 9/11, for one thing there is this USA Today article.

How about y'all shut up and show some respect. I understand the argument but this thread was intented to remember 11 years back NOT to debate whether it was the fault of the government or not. Also, about the biased thing, HELL YEAH there is not a single person around that doesnt have a bias to this. I know a lot of people who hate all muslims because of this. I doubt that the debate was meant to be disrespectful but for someone who lost several family-friends in this attack, it is annoying to have to hear the whole conspiracy thing again. It is mentioned every time 9/11/01 is mentioned. And for those of you who shared your personal stories, THANK YOU.

How about we split off conspiracy theories into a separate thread?

How about we split off conspiracy theories into a separate thread?

Goog point

How about we split off conspiracy theories into a separate thread?

Just keep the conspiracy theories in here and post in this thread: