As above, does anyone know why US or UK police forces do not want to have one main national police forces???? And join all the current police departments and called United States police forces 

 

 

 

I mean such as below, they are the main national law enforcement agency for the country. 

Some Example 

Royal Malaysian police 

New Zealand police force

Hong Kong police force

National police agency (japan) 

National police agency (taiwan ) 

Royal Thai police 

Singapore police force

Indonesian national police

Taiwan National police 

Does each US police departments work differently??? Such as their information /intelligence. Can they share and work along each other?? 

 

 

Edited March 17, 20179 yr by ahling023

because that would just be one giant clusterfuck. The police force in the UK and America are much larger than that in say New Zealand.

 

sworn members of NZ police (both sworn and unsworn 10,000 which is almost equivilant to that of the LAPD (which is 12,000). So their entire countries police force is the same size of 1 US state police department.

 

 

Please don't flame me If I am wrong . As I had never been to US or UK once . 

 

 

I notice most country in South East Asia or rather Asia, they mostly have a main national police that is in charge of the country safety and law enforcement. 

Edited March 17, 20179 yr by ahling023

there is a JTTF joint terrorism task force which is combination of local  law enforcement federal agent and other agencies as you can tell what they do by it name. Investigate and shut down the threat

 

Because each state has their own laws, and local officers are not able to enforce laws outside their state.  Additionally, each city/county has ordinances only their agencies are able to enforce.

 

While it seems like a clusterfuck, it allows areas to govern themselves by the policies they believe are best.

The UK does have a few national forces. It wouldn't make sense to combine the local ones however. 

Also, each state has their own training standards and requirements for police officers. For example, a West Coast police officer has slightly different training and protocols than an East Coast police officer. 

22 hours ago, c13 said:

Because each state has their own laws, and local officers are not able to enforce laws outside their state.  Additionally, each city/county has ordinances only their agencies are able to enforce.

 

While it seems like a clusterfuck, it allows areas to govern themselves by the policies they believe are best.

Blame the Constitution.

Pretty much all of those police forces in the OP are all of small, mostly completely homogeneous nations with strong centralized governments.

 

The United States in particular, with its various levels of government, difference in State and Federal control, differences in each individual States and laws there of, and wildly varying social-economic factors, plus untold smaller other factors would prevent a singular federal LE force from ever functioning at any sort of acceptable level.

 

That being said, 1000's of police agencies across the US cooperate and help each other on a daily basis, from local to state to federal level.

On 18/03/2017 at 0:42 AM, ahling023 said:

As above, does anyone know why US or UK police forces do not want to have one main national police forces???? And join all the current police departments and called United States police forces

You mean like ... A federal police body, right? Kind of like, say .. the FBI, or a local example for me, the Australian Federal Police..?

I mean  main national law enforcement for the country. That are responsible for every law enforcement stuff happening on the country. They are primary law enforcement of their country 

 

 

Such example below 

 

royal Thai police  (thailand) 

Royal Malaysian police(Malaysia) 

Singapore police force (Singapore) 

National police agency (japan) 

National police agency(taiwan) 

Royal Brunei police forces (Brunei) 

Hong Kong police forces (Hong Kong) 

Indonesian National police (Indonesia) 

 Icelanic police (Iceland) 

 

I mean why US police and UK every states have its own departments. 

Such as 

 

Los Angeles police department

New York police department

Chicago police department 

Birmingham Police department 

 

Why not they combined all the departments of different states and called US national police or United States police forces, all have the same police power

Edited March 19, 20179 yr by ahling023

8 hours ago, ahling023 said:

I mean  main national law enforcement for the country. That are responsible for every law enforcement stuff happening on the country. They are primary law enforcement of their country 

 

 

Such example below 

 

royal Thai police  (thailand) 

Royal Malaysian police(Malaysia) 

Singapore police force (Singapore) 

National police agency (japan) 

National police agency(taiwan) 

Royal Brunei police forces (Brunei) 

Hong Kong police forces (Hong Kong) 

Indonesian National police (Indonesia) 

 Icelanic police (Iceland) 

 

I mean why US police and UK every states have its own departments. 

Such as 

 

Los Angeles police department

New York police department

Chicago police department 

Birmingham Police department 

 

Why not they combined all the departments of different states and called US national police or United States police forces, all have the same police power

Because it would go against the U.S Constitution granting each state the right to govern themselves with their own laws and ordinances. A national police force wouldn't work because training is relative to each state as each state has it's own laws and statutes. What is policed in New York is different than what is policed in Massachusetts because the laws are different. This kind of issue just would not work in a national police force. The FBI and state police cooperation fulfills the role of interstate crime in the U.S. That is just the way it is and unless you can find a way to change the U.S Constitution you won't find America with a national police force working at the local or state level.

 

Part of a paper I wrote for a college course when faced with this question: 

 

The faults of an American national law enforcement agency lie with the creation of America itself and the U.S Constitution. Our constitution gives our states their sovereignty and the power to create, translate, and enforce their own laws freely from any federal entity. With this in mind we must come to also understand that what is effective law enforcement in one state is different in another. Because of these facts a national standard training system, SOP, and deployment would be redundant and conflicted. How would you be able to differentiate at the federal level the enforcement of state laws as an agency. That kind of fundamental flaw could spell disaster down the line. Feeding off this is also the proposed idea of a standard set of priorities that will dictate the focus of a national agency. A singular set of priorities would not trickle down the vine effectively in a national agency. What is prioritized in combating crime in Chicago isn’t necessarily needed in North Andover, Massachusetts. This is not to say a national police force could not be formed, however, its formation would need to be able to intrinsically focus on the state, county and local needs of each sovereign entity within America. This being a task that would require an incomprehensible amount of time, money and planning to be effectively done.

Edited March 19, 20179 yr by Prophet

Lots of talk of the US here, and I think that that questions has effectively been answered. However, you mentioned the UK (briefly) and I thought I should explain why it's separated here too.

 

Historically, the UK has had many local police forces (or constabularies) nationally, and they have been consolidating them into larger forces over time. What you're suggesting is actually happening, just very slowly.

 

When they tried to rush the process before, in Scotland, they ended up with a national police force that struggled to cope with being unified so quickly.

 

I think that the UK's police forces are slowly becoming more closely linked, especially with some forces now having to effectively share units due to budget cuts. The Metropolitan Police are now responsible for a lot of the entire country's counter terrorism operations, the City of London Police seem to be dealing more and more with national fraud and financial crime, and the BTP are (and have always) dealt with the railways.

 

Here, forces are doing what you suggest where they find it beneficial. They may have different names, but where one force is better equipped to deal with an incident, that force often takes over (and not just for investigative roles; Met police snipers were used in a manhunt up North a few years ago, during the riots there were Welsh riot police on duty in London, for example)