I just applied to be a Reserve deputy in my area, not sworn as far as I know but all the same duties as an LEO, I have to buy my own equipment though and am not paid except on details. If I get brought on hopefully I can use my experience to help craft realistic mods. I am already trying to learn C# to assist.

Is anyone on this forum, or a mod maker/contributor actual sworn LE?

I am not in a sworn position right now as I am in the military but prior to enlisting I graduated from the police academy and got my certification to be a police officer in the state of Florida. I know of at least one person on here who is a full time police officer and makes a few smaller mods like textures however I won't name them since I don't know if they want it put out there.

I've been in a full-time sworn position for 3 or 4 years now. The first year I spent as a deputy with a Sheriff's Office but I switched over to a police department later. I'm not a mod maker, though I really wish I knew how.

I am not in a sworn position right now as I am in the military but prior to enlisting I graduated from the police academy and got my certification to be a police officer in the state of Florida. I know of at least one person on here who is a full time police officer and makes a few smaller mods like textures however I won't name them since I don't know if they want it put out there.

Would you ever consider MP?

Would you ever consider MP?

MPs are not anything like police officers and, in my opinion, what they do on a daily basis is very boring. So no, I would never consider being an MP. If I were going to do anything law related in the military I would consider CID because they actually get to do investigations. Shit, I would be a paralegal specialist in a JAG office before I became an MP. No offense to any MPs out there, just not my cup of tea.

Would you ever consider MP?

Exactly what I3ubba said. Military Police is nothing like civilian. I was security forces in the AF and what I did there, was nothing like being a sworn LEO in the civilian world. Much more freedom, less political bullshit to navigate, and in my opinion much more fun and enjoyable. Not to mention the many different laws, and the fact that Military Police seem to be the "all the bad eggs in one basket" type of generalization. Most people get sent there if they don't get the job they want, thus contributing to many people who will make you miserable.

l3ubba-Where you at in Germany? I work at JMRC but live in Bamberg.

Exactly what I3ubba said. Military Police is nothing like civilian. I was security forces in the AF and what I did there, was nothing like being a sworn LEO in the civilian world. Much more freedom, less political bullshit to navigate, and in my opinion much more fun and enjoyable. Not to mention the many different laws, and the fact that Military Police seem to be the "all the bad eggs in one basket" type of generalization. Most people get sent there if they don't get the job they want, thus contributing to many people who will make you miserable.

Now when you say people are sent there, do you mean that literally? As in they don't get their first pick so they get sent to MP, or they just decide to go MP?

Now when you say people are sent there, do you mean that literally? As in they don't get their first pick so they get sent to MP, or they just decide to go MP?

Mainly they are actually forced there... At least in the AF and I'd assume in the  Navy. With the Marines and Army, you can always be a generic 11b before an MP. 

MPs are not anything like police officers and, in my opinion, what they do on a daily basis is very boring. So no, I would never consider being an MP. If I were going to do anything law related in the military I would consider CID because they actually get to do investigations. Shit, I would be a paralegal specialist in a JAG office before I became an MP. No offense to any MPs out there, just not my cup of tea.

I am in the Army Reserve as well, I had my AIT at Huachuca if that gives you an indication of my background.

I've been in a full-time sworn position for 3 or 4 years now. The first year I spent as a deputy with a Sheriff's Office but I switched over to a police department later. I'm not a mod maker, though I really wish I knew how.

What's your opinion on it so far? What to you is surprisingly realistic and what is surprisingly unrealistic (things a lamen wouldn't notice)?

 

Also, what is something not currently modded (humorous or not) that would add to the realism?

For example when I pull over X they always seem to have Y on them or do Z, etc.

 

I did manage to make a simple script where the scanner will call out (Race) (Gender) of person and whether they are armed or not, and you have to go to their location and pursue them on foot. Still working the bugs out on it.

I am in the Army Reserve as well, I had my AIT at Huachuca if that gives you an indication of my background.

Well then you and I are of the same background because that is where my AIT was too. Are you a F, G, M, or T?

Not exactly a sworn LEO as it's not how we do things over here, but I am a Special Constable in a UK force (volunteer officer). Though our attestation is much the same as becoming a sworn LEO I expect.

@‌download: Mental health calls . . . bread and butter work these days. In addition (and bear in mind I only found LSPDFR a few days ago so I might have just not come across it yet) how quickly and randomly things can go wrong, for instance, you can be moments away from resolving an issue with a ticket or similar and then all of a sudden you're rolling around on the floor and the person is spending the night in the cells instead. It doesn't always go wrong at the initial point of contact!

In addition to the last, the ability to TPAC a pursuit would be nice rather than having to ram/shoot them! Not sure if implementing it would even be possible however!

 

If you're not sure what a TPAC is, three or four police vehicles boxing in a car that is being pursued, and slowing down thereby forcing it to slow down. Also benefits from blocking the doors so they can't get out :)

MPs are not anything like police officers and, in my opinion, what they do on a daily basis is very boring. So no, I would never consider being an MP. If I were going to do anything law related in the military I would consider CID because they actually get to do investigations. Shit, I would be a paralegal specialist in a JAG office before I became an MP. No offense to any MPs out there, just not my cup of tea.

lol Paralegal. *Takes off MP as a possible job after high school*

In addition to the last, the ability to TPAC a pursuit would be nice rather than having to ram/shoot them! Not sure if implementing it would even be possible however!

 

If you're not sure what a TPAC is, three or four police vehicles boxing in a car that is being pursued, and slowing down thereby forcing it to slow down. Also benefits from blocking the doors so they can't get out :)

In the U.S. we call that a rolling roadblock. A lot of our departments stopped doing it because it opens up the cops surrounding the car to point blank gun fire if the person they're chasing has a weapon. You'll see it happen every now and then in pursuits on the web, especially those recorded in the 1990's and earlier, but it doesn't really happen much anymore. We rely chiefly on spike strips, helicopters and the PIT maneuver. On top of that, a lot of departments that used to have aggressive chase policies have now changed them to terminate pursuits at the first hint of danger. There was an episode of COPS that aired this past Saturday where the Kansas City PD terminated a chase of a pickup truck almost as soon as it began despite the fact that the roads were dry, there was no heavy traffic and speeds weren't terribly dangerous (in my opinion). They had to rely on witness testimony to arrest the guy later, minutes after he bailed out of the car.

Trivia: The LSPD in GTA V uses rolling roadblocks as part of their regular chase AI, even without the aid of the LSPDFR mod. The LCPD prefers to try and pit cars instead.

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Ah, this would be the difference between the UK and US, we're able to TPAC as there's very minimal risk of firearms. And to us, a rolling roadblock is when a single police car slows down traffic behind it, normally used on motorways when they drive in a weaving motion across the three lanes to signal what they're doing (nowadays they usually use a matrix board if they have one as well) then slowly slow down causing the traffic to slow with them. Used when we need more breathing room on a motorway, either to move a vehicle in a dangerous position or due to an ongoing pursuit to minimise the risk to other road users. Also makes it easier to bring the road to a stop for a full closure if needed.

As for PITting, it tends not to happen here due to the preference for TPACs which don't cause vehicles to go all over the place, and reduces damage to our cars :p though they can still be used if the pursuit calls for it. Stingers are far more prevalent as well, and if they do need to call a pursuit off then a chopper is normally not to far away which can direct units in for the arrest once they bail.

Then again, it isn't unknown for a force to keep changing out the units being used in a pursuit and just wait for the suspects to run out of fuel ;)

lol Paralegal. *Takes off MP as a possible job after high school*

I don't want to discourage anybody from going after a job if they really want it, just keep in mind that in the military (regardless of MOS or specialty) they will tell you all the cool and exciting things that you will do in that job and leave out the boring parts that take up a good chunk of time. And even if you do exactly what they said you would be doing it usually isn't as fun once you get there. For the most part I do exactly what they said I would be doing in my MOS but it isn't nearly as fun or exciting as they described it.

In the U.S. we call that a rolling roadblock. A lot of our departments stopped doing it because it opens up the cops surrounding the car to point blank gun fire if the person they're chasing has a weapon. You'll see it happen every now and then in pursuits on the web, especially those recorded in the 1990's and earlier, but it doesn't really happen much anymore. We rely chiefly on spike strips, helicopters and the PIT maneuver. On top of that, a lot of departments that used to have aggressive chase policies have now changed them to terminate pursuits at the first hint of danger. There was an episode of COPS that aired this past Saturday where the Kansas City PD terminated a chase of a pickup truck almost as soon as it began despite the fact that the roads were dry, there was no heavy traffic and speeds weren't terribly dangerous (in my opinion). They had to rely on witness testimony to arrest the guy later, minutes after he bailed out of the car.
Trivia: The LSPD in GTA V uses rolling roadblocks as part of their regular chase AI, even without the aid of the LSPDFR mod. The LCPD prefers to try and pit cars instead.

That's because the US is becoming a bunch of giant pussies. Everyone sues the cops anytime something bad happens even if the cops weren't the ones who did it. I don't agree with most of the pursuit policies a lot of agencies are adopting but I understand why they are doing it. In my opinion it just makes the police look weak. In the sheriff's office were I lived in the states you can't pursue unless the suspect committed a violent felony so if you try to pull someone over for running a red light and they decide they don't want to stop then you have to turn off your lights and do a u-turn. What kind of message does that send to the citizens who see that? Most people know the pursuit policy so they will abuse it.

I don't want to discourage anybody from going after a job if they really want it, just keep in mind that in the military (regardless of MOS or specialty) they will tell you all the cool and exciting things that you will do in that job and leave out the boring parts that take up a good chunk of time. And even if you do exactly what they said you would be doing it usually isn't as fun once you get there. For the most part I do exactly what they said I would be doing in my MOS but it isn't nearly as fun or exciting as they described it.

That's because the US is becoming a bunch of giant pussies. Everyone sues the cops anytime something bad happens even if the cops weren't the ones who did it. I don't agree with most of the pursuit policies a lot of agencies are adopting but I understand why they are doing it. In my opinion it just makes the police look weak. In the sheriff's office were I lived in the states you can't pursue unless the suspect committed a violent felony so if you try to pull someone over for running a red light and they decide they don't want to stop then you have to turn off your lights and do a u-turn. What kind of message does that send to the citizens who see that? Most people know the pursuit policy so they will abuse it.

It makes sense in some cases if you can ID the driver and its for certain offenses. Getting the plate is all you need some times, and then you can just send them a ticket in the mail. But if it's a stolen car and you cannot I.D. the driver; that's another story.

It makes sense in some cases if you can ID the driver and its for certain offenses. Getting the plate is all you need some times, and then you can just send them a ticket in the mail. But if it's a stolen car and you cannot I.D. the driver; that's another story.

I agree. I'm not saying that police should pursue no matter what but it is getting a little ridiculous how strict some agencies are making their pursuit policies. But using your example of a stolen car, my sheriff's office would more than likely not allow you to pursue because stealing a car is not a violent felony. If I were the owner of a stolen car I wouldn't want the police to just give up because they guy ran.

It makes sense in some cases if you can ID the driver and its for certain offenses. Getting the plate is all you need some times, and then you can just send them a ticket in the mail. But if it's a stolen car and you cannot I.D. the driver; that's another story.

Especially if the vehicle in question is registered to a demented old lady in the suburbs and is driven by her nephew/grandson/mobster, getting the plate isn't that useful. That may not be a common problem in the States, though. In my country that's one of the reasons why cops use drive-by shooting to stop a driver who refused to pull over :D