19 minutes ago, GravelRoadCop said:

Trust me, it will be worth the wait.  I promise you this. ELS V will have features that isn't seen in ELS IV nor has it been revealed to the public yet. All Lt. Caine wants from you guys is to keep up with the lasting patience because it will pay off in the end.  

 

Now,  the bad news is that we won't be posting any more updates about ELS. This is to ensure that you have the element of suprise when playing with ELS V for the first time.  We've shown you guys the basic idea of how ELS is going to work,  and we're saving the best features for final release. Thank you for your understanding :) Happy Halloween everyone! 

Thanks for letting us know kinda a update i think thats a good idea what you guys are doing and you saying it will be worth the wait i bet it will cant wait. I hope you guys do a live release like when LSPDFR did theirs showing us the fuctions n e ways thank you for updating us 

Edited October 31, 20169 yr by winglesschip209

19 minutes ago, GravelRoadCop said:

Trust me, it will be worth the wait.  I promise you this. ELS V will have features that isn't seen in ELS IV nor has it been revealed to the public yet. All Lt. Caine wants from you guys is to keep up with the lasting patience because it will pay off in the end.  

 

Now,  the bad news is that we won't be posting any more updates about ELS. This is to ensure that you have the element of suprise when playing with ELS V for the first time.  We've shown you guys the basic idea of how ELS is going to work,  and we're saving the best features for final release. Thank you for your understanding :) Happy Halloween everyone! 

I really hope that because you say "no more updates" that means we're getting close. The wait is nearly palpable.

We do not have a release date set in stone, but everyday we are getting closer to the finished product. The train is moving forward,  not backwards. I hope this helps. 

Train, eh?

 

I haven't really commented much yet, but here are my thoughts.  Its cool to wait and anticipate this.  That's always exciting and brings large crowds just waiting to see the unvail.  We do this with movies, new electronics, you name it.  I run a small business and in my experience my only suggestion to the ELS team is that it is okay to give updates and keep people interested and happy with the best customer service instead of always shutting people down since its free.  Silence is not always the best approach.  Yes of course I am SELLING a product and a image for my small business and ELS is more your hobby, so I understand the differences, but we can still learn something from the film industry.  They have their actors on shows promoting the film, showing clips, constantly bringing it to the public, and getting everyone excited for the RELEASE DATE.  That is done for the success of the movie, the actors, and the production companies to thrive and continue in their great endeavor.  That is a great way to do it and what most people are accustomed to.  We are your fans ELS team, but from reading most comments on here, they feel ignored, not valued, and always left in the dark with losing hope.  This is mostly from patience and losing hope.   

 

To the ELS modding team, please don't take the comments from the fans as complaints, but rather see through to the true underlying meaning.  They are desperately anticipating this release supporting you guys, but without any attention or feeling valued, but given very little to go on.  In my opinion this is bad business ans bad customer relations.  I know this is free though, so there is not too much the public can say and we are forced to be left in the dark holding our tongues.  That is okay if you want to make your fans feel like that, but like I said, there is nothing wrong with giving minor updates throughout the weeks.  Share a little bit of things we already know about, or that might be improved without giving away too much, just giving the people what they want with your wise boundaries.  Even with a DVD release there is a set date, with a new phone there is a general date, and most products they gather their fans to follow them anticipating with them, not making them feel discouraged and pushing them away to lose hope.  Just my two cents.  Take it for what its worth from a successful small business. 

 

I know this is not a business for the ELS team, so please don't post a lot of comments about the differences from business to this game/free hobby, but we can still share in beneficial practices in all aspects of life.  I am just trying to help in all of your communication, keeping the peace, and a "give and take" on both sides to keep everyone happy.  There is too much of this forced to respect and appreciate the modder, but he doesn't have to respect and appreciate his fans in return ONLY because he's offering something for free.  That is unrealistically, unfair, and exalting of one self above the rest.  Not saying Lt. Caine or anyone here is doing that, but the elephant in these forums is always that underlying theme.  Hope this helps some of you to come to a better understanding, better communication, and a great journey along the way.  I am looking forward to the release of ELS and understand they want to put out the product fully functioning.  Then life happens and ELS gets put off.  That's okay guys, but I think the people would like to know and it makes them feel comfortable.  There is nothing wrong with that on either side.  Thanks for hearing us out ELS team and I hope you can take some of this into consideration.  No one is above the other here, we are all contributing members with ideas, products, opinions, and at the least value.  Keep up the great work ELS team.       

You do realize ELS has been a WIP since last year lol, It was rumored to be out in August because they were at the same stage as it is in IV and it's still not released. I hear a lot of people saying car-cols is better than ELS

8 minutes ago, TrentMU said:

I hear a lot of people saying car-cols is better than ELS

I don't see where they get that idea. As GravelRoadCop has already said in this thread, carcols is... 32bit limited? Not entirely sure what that means, but yeah. Not only that, ELS gives us:

• Traffic control (All traffic ahead of you will move over if you're noticeable enough, changing siren tones and blipping your horn etc)
• Multiple patterns
• Better looking lights
• Proper siren control (Sure, we have "Sirenmastery", but ELS' UI is better, and comes with all these other features anyway)
• Lighting stages
• Takedowns
• Traffic advisors
• Variable Message Boards, quite possibly

 

That's a lot more than carcols can do. And I'm pretty sure I've missed stuff, anyway.

Edited October 31, 20169 yr by Pipeline

6 minutes ago, Pipeline said:

I don't see where they get that idea. As GravelRoadCop has already said in this thread, carcols is... 32bit limited? Not entirely sure what that means, but yeah. Not only that, ELS gives us:

• Traffic control (All traffic ahead of you will move over if you're noticeable enough, changing siren tones and blipping your horn etc)
• Multiple patterns
• Better looking lights
• Proper siren control (Sure, we have "Sirenmastery", but ELS' UI is better, and comes with all these other features anyway)
• Lighting stages
• Takedowns
• Traffic advisors
• Variable Message Boards, quite possibly

 

That's a lot more than carcols can do. And I'm pretty sure I've missed stuff, anyway.

Still, I am not holding my breathe on this coming out anytime soon since it's been in dev for over a year lol

3 minutes ago, TrentMU said:

Still, I am not holding my breathe on this coming out anytime soon since it's been in dev for over a year lol

Doesn't the fact it's been in development for over a year make it more likely it'll be released soon? The longer we wait, the more finished it must be getting. I really doubt Lt.Caine has been doing nothing this whole time.

3 minutes ago, Pipeline said:

Doesn't the fact it's been in development for over a year make it more likely it'll be released soon? The longer we wait, the more finished it must be getting. I really doubt Lt.Caine has been doing nothing this whole time.

No it doesn't because do you know how many times I have been told release dates on it? It being in dev for a year doesn't mean it'll be released soon.

3 minutes ago, TrentMU said:

No it doesn't because do you know how many times I have been told release dates on it? It being in dev for a year doesn't mean it'll be released soon.

There's never been a release date stated for ELS V from any official source, if you heard it from anyone other than people in the testing team or Lt.Caine himself they didn't know what they were talking about.

3 minutes ago, Pipeline said:

There's never been a release date stated for ELS V from any official source, if you heard it from anyone other than people in the testing team or Lt.Caine himself they didn't know what they were talking about.

Well, before all the drama started with people in the community and I won't go into detail, back when we were all on the same FiveReborn server, Testers themselves were in there and told me about it so my source is kinda valid

On 10/17/2016 at 5:32 PM, GGN Crazy said:

If you dont mind me asking, and if you guys can answer it, what is slowing down the production? What is still in the works, or what do you guys plan on adding? 

And as much as i already know the answer to this question, i have to ask.. Lt. Caine said in his update about 2 months ago that he didnt want to release ELS, make a major change, and then have a whole lot of confusion. But he also said that there has yet to be a crash from ELS itself. So I'm wondering, is the "I dont want to release it because I dont want to make a major change and cause the community a whole lot of confusion" reason still the reason for no release? Are there more bugs, less downtime, or a different reason?

All that I'm asking for, really, is an update that isnt just out there.. like what is really happening, and what has changed from the last actual update, if you guys can give us that.

 

So im assuming that we wont get anything more than a "General" Update? How sad... like stated above, itd be nice to know a little bit more than "Itll be worth the wait"

5 minutes ago, GGN Crazy said:

 

So im assuming that we wont get anything more than a "General" Update? How sad... like stated above, itd be nice to know a little bit more than "Itll be worth the wait"

Crazy.

Hi! Thank you all for your concern with ELS and its updates/release date. I will be looking to make a complete update/commentary video regarding it. No promises yet, however, if I get the green light, this video will be out this week. I hope to give background information about the modification and issues that plauge its development if possible.

1 hour ago, Prophet said:

Hi! Thank you all for your concern with ELS and its updates/release date. I will be looking to make a complete update/commentary video regarding it. No promises yet, however, if I get the green light, this video will be out this week. I hope to give background information about the modification and issues that plauge its development if possible.

Beautifully said.  Thank you for taking my comments into consideration as well as everyone else. 

I hope it will be out soon

11 hours ago, Prophet said:

Hi! Thank you all for your concern with ELS and its updates/release date. I will be looking to make a complete update/commentary video regarding it. No promises yet, however, if I get the green light, this video will be out this week. I hope to give background information about the modification and issues that plauge its development if possible.

I would personally love to see a update video on ELS V!

2 hours ago, DanneL said:

I would personally love to see a update video on ELS V!

I wouldn't, lol. Just like GravelRoadCop said, the surprise will be much bigger if we don't have any updates before the official release.

1 hour ago, AgentCapkun said:

I wouldn't, lol. Just like GravelRoadCop said, the surprise will be much bigger if we don't have any updates before the official release.

me too, i want it to be a surprise