I'm intrigued to see Trump go to the finish line, since he is a self-made billionaire he plays by his own rules. This is going to be the most interesting election season by far. The only thing I dread more is the insane amount of political ads that swamp the prime-time tv when I'm watching a show saying how awful the other guy is and how awesome they are compared to the other dude. This is why I'm interested to see Trump because he is like the wild-card in the game.

People seem to think that only voting for President and blowing off everything else is the right thing to do. Then people wonder why we have idiots in office.

I'm intrigued to see Trump go to the finish line, since he is a self-made billionaire he plays by his own rules.

That is the exact reason why I don't want him to get elected. We don't need someone who just does what they want because they have lots of money.

That is the exact reason why I don't want him to get elected. We don't need someone who just does what they want because they have lots of money.

It'll make for interesting TV none the less.

I agree with you on most of your posts, but I've to stop by on this one. There's definitely an increasingly ammount of immigrants coming from the Middle East that are entering Europe through Greece, and moving all over the EU to reach the north of France and cross the sea to England. And this is definitely a problem, because deaths are proportionally increasing. In the last few days, thousands of attempts have been made by migrants to enter the undersea rail tunnel to cross the sea and to go to the UK, disturbing train traffic, and getting some of them killed. UK and France actually signed an agreement not later than yesterday, UK agreeing to send UK cops to the France border to help them with the migrants, as well as 10 millions euros to financially help fighting the illegal migration.

I don't think you've a single idea of how it works. Here in France, the minimum wage increases every year, following inflation. Prices of products didn't raise because of that. Furthermore, increasing the minimum wage proportionally increases purchasing power, allowing people to buy more, which brings money into the economical machinery, increasing companies benefits and allowing them to invest more, and so on. Also, the fact that your burger tastes like crap has literally NOTHING to do with how much people are paid. You can pay them billions if you want, if the base material is shit, the result will be equally shitty.

Here, there have been businesses going out of business because they could not afford the ridiculous $15 minimum wage. I got a burger today from McDonalds that looked pretty good actually. It was busy as well, which impressed me more. I'm sure that when I receive a smashed burger it didn't smash itself, the employees didn't put effort into making it.

Here, there have been businesses going out of business because they could not afford the ridiculous $15 minimum wage. I got a burger today from McDonalds that looked pretty good actually. It was busy as well, which impressed me more. I'm sure that when I receive a smashed burger it didn't smash itself, the employees didn't put effort into making it.

Yeah, or maybe the working conditions at McDonalds are close to slavery. Have you ever worked there? When you are -forced- to make ten burgers per minute to fulfill the boss' schedule, obviously quality will go down. You want to blame someone? Blame company owners who always ask more and more from their employees while treating them like shit. It's crazy that people dare to blame McDonalds employees when they obviously never worked there and prefer to defend companies owners who make thousands of dollars per month just for sitting in a chair and yelling at people. Minimum wage is a social right. Businesses don't go bankrupt because of that, they go bankrupt because of either 1/ economical crisis, people don't invest in their company or buy their stuff, thus they lose money or 2/ they advertise/manage their company so badly they make it go bankrupt.

Yeah, or maybe the working conditions at McDonalds are close to slavery. Have you ever worked there? When you are -forced- to make ten burgers per minute to fulfill the boss' schedule, obviously quality will go down. You want to blame someone? Blame company owners who always ask more and more from their employees while treating them like shit. It's crazy that people dare to blame McDonalds employees when they obviously never worked there and prefer to defend companies owners who make thousands of dollars per month just for sitting in a chair and yelling at people. Minimum wage is a social right. Businesses don't go bankrupt because of that, they go bankrupt because of either 1/ economical crisis, people don't invest in their company or buy their stuff, thus they lose money or 2/ they advertise/manage their company so badly they make it go bankrupt.

If you can't handle the job then don't work there! Obviously the company owner didn't get there by being a quitter.

Minimum wage is a social right.

Or just get a real job... There isn't much more to the concept, with all due respect man. 

Yes, people should go pick a "real job" off the "real job tree" that grows in everyone's backyard. If it was that easy to find a "real job" (whatever the hell that means, god I hate that phrase...), don't you think everyone would be at least middle class? But, guess what? It's hard to find a job, let alone a real job.

Lets take nursing/healthcare as an example, a field that I'd say I'm pretty familiar with since well, I'm a nurse. You'd think getting a job as a nurse would be easy, yeah? You know, with the whole "nursing shortage" and everything (which is bullshit, by the way). And I guess it'd be considered a "real job" in your eyes too, since we get paid fairly well and work quasi-regular hours...though I do wish I made more, but I digress.

Wrong. Hospitals are downsizing and try having less staff to do more work, and I know of several that have outright closed. There are nursing graduates that have had difficulty finding a job up to 1-2 years after they have graduated. Many resort to working at nursing homes or finding temp work to get by, hoping to finally be hired by a hospital. Don't forget, this is healthcare we are talking about, a field that is considered relatively stable because as you probably know, there will always be sick people. I remember trying to find a job as a nursing assistant after my second year of nursing school. In case you don't know, a nursing assistant is as entry level into the healthcare field as you can get. They get paid $13/hr to take vitals, do finger sticks, help patients with their ADLs (activities of daily living), and of course, cleaning up piss and urine. It's a tough job, and not everyone can do it. I applied to all the hospitals within an hour radius of where I live, some hospitals were even two hours away...I only got 1 interview and that was at a summer camp that paid me 66 cents an hour. Thankfully, I was hired by them and was able to land a hospital job the next year (after applying to about 10 and only getting a call back from two of them). My classmates on the other hand...not so lucky. Many of them struggled to get jobs outside of retail.

Now, if it's this hard to get a job in healthcare, imagine what it is like in other professions/careers/fields, so don't give me that bullshit that people should "just go get jobs" like it's so easy. If it was, don't you think everyone would be getting jobs and living a nice, comfortable life?

Then move somewhere that has higher-paying jobs. Shouldn't have moved into an area with no jobs to begin with. Can't afford higher education? Find some scholarships, join the military, do something to help yourself. I have no sympathy for someone that sits there and expects everything to come to them just because that's the way they think it should be. Go join the military, find scholarships, learn a new skill, do something with your life. I couldn't care less because I'll move on with mine and do what I have to do to be successful. Just the way life works. Either face the challenges or whine and complain about them.

 

Woah woah, hold up. So you don't have enough money to go to college, but you have enough money to move...? wat. Also, applying to and getting scholarships isn't that easy. Again, if it was, don't you think that student loans wouldn't be such a big problem as it is today? As was also pointed out to you, not everyone can join the military.

You seem to have to have this view that everything in life you can get by just "doing x, y, and z." The reality of it is, it's not as easy as you think it is. Don't get me wrong, I'm not condoning people be getting hand outs left and right, and I definitely don't support the whole "street mentality" found in many of America's Detroits and Camdens. What I'm saying is, things are hard out there, even for people who are trying to work to better themselves.  

Edited August 22, 201510 yr by LtCarman

Yes, people should go pick a "real job" off the "real job tree" that grows in everyone's backyard. If it was that easy to find a "real job" (whatever the hell that means, god I hate that phrase...), don't you think everyone would be at least middle class? But, guess what? It's hard to find a job, let alone a real job.

Lets take nursing/healthcare as an example, a field that I'd say I'm pretty familiar with since well, I'm a nurse. You'd think getting a job as a nurse would be easy, yeah? You know, with the whole "nursing shortage" and everything (which is bullshit, by the way). And I guess it'd be considered a "real job" in your eyes too, since we get paid fairly well and work quasi-regular hours...though I do wish I made more, but I digress.

Wrong. Hospitals are downsizing and try having less staff to do more work, and I know of several that have outright closed. There are nursing graduates that have had difficulty finding a job up to 1-2 years after they have graduated. Many resort to working at nursing homes or finding temp work to get by, hoping to finally be hired by a hospital. Don't forget, this is healthcare we are talking about, a field that is considered relatively stable because as you probably know, there will always be sick people. I remember trying to find a job as a nursing assistant after my second year of nursing school. In case you don't know, a nursing assistant is as entry level into the healthcare field as you can get. They get paid $13/hr to take vitals, do finger sticks, help patients with their ADLs (activities of daily living), and of course, cleaning up piss and urine. It's a tough job, and not everyone can do it. I applied to all the hospitals within an hour radius of where I live, some hospitals were even two hours away...I only got 1 interview and that was at a summer camp that paid me 66 cents an hour. Thankfully, I was hired by them and was able to land a hospital job the next year (after applying to about 10 and only getting a call back from two of them). My classmates on the other hand...not so lucky. Many of them struggled to get jobs outside of retail.

Now, if it's this hard to get a job in healthcare, imagine what it is like in other professions/careers/fields, so don't give me that bullshit that people should "just go get jobs" like it's so easy. If it was, don't you think everyone would be getting jobs and living a nice, comfortable life?

Woah woah, hold up. So you don't have enough money to go to college, but you have enough money to move...? wat. Also, applying to and getting scholarships isn't that easy. Again, if it was, don't you think that student loans wouldn't be such a big problem as it is today? As was also pointed out to you, not everyone can join the military.

You seem to have to have this view that everything in life you can get by just "doing x, y, and z." The reality of it is, it's not as easy as you think it is. Don't get me wrong, I'm not condoning people be getting hand outs left and right, and I definitely don't support the whole "street mentality" found in many of America's Detroits and Camdens. What I'm saying is, things are hard out there, even for people who are trying to work to better themselves.  

Not sure what you want me to say. This isn't kindergarten, go out and see what you can do to help yourself. 

Not sure what you want me to say. This isn't kindergarten, go out and see what you can do to help yourself. 

Who said I needed any help with my career? Reading comprehension, learn it. Good job on completely ignoring the whole point of my post.

Who said I needed any help with my career? Reading comprehension, learn it. Good job on completely ignoring the whole point of my post.

I did comprehend what you read, I just think it's a complete load of garbage, which is why I can't take it seriously. I'm going to stop replying to you now, this is only dragging on and it's quite dreadful.

I did comprehend what you read, I just think it's a complete load of garbage, which is why I can't take it seriously. I'm going to stop replying to you now, this is only dragging on and it's quite dreadful.

If you think what he said was a complete load of garbage then you have obviously never had to get a job. Don't worry, even if don't understand now you will understand when you go out into the real world and start applying to work places. You want to know one of the reasons why I am active duty military right now and not reserves or national guard? Because I kept getting shot down while applying for jobs; employers told me they wanted to see more experience on my resume. There were a few other reasons I decided to go active duty but my original plan was to go into the reserves or national guard, I never really planned on doing any time in active duty but look at where I am now.

employers told me they wanted to see more experience on my resume

This can't be true enough. I keep getting denied from a job offer because the employers are like "We need someone with experience". But then, if no one hires people with no experience, how are they supposed to get some? It's a vicious circle and it's really, really annoying.

I did comprehend what you read, I just think it's a complete load of garbage, which is why I can't take it seriously. I'm going to stop replying to you now, this is only dragging on and it's quite dreadful.

To be fairly honest, it's like saying "2+2=4? It's complete load of garbage". He didn't speak his mind, he spoke the truth, you just have to look out at the window to realize it. World isn't what it was 40 years ago (which republicans seem to think). It doesn't work like "You want to be stinking rich? Do something of your life". The whole "America, land of opportunities" is outdated now, it's not working anymore. Unemployment exists because there's no job, not because people are lazy.

If you can't handle the job then don't work there! Obviously the company owner didn't get there by being a quitter.

Do you even read what you're typing? Sure, the company owner didn't get there by being a quitter. But do you -really- think that the poor McDonalds' employee, who's treated almost like an animal, who's getting paid like shit, who's working in terrible conditions just has even one little tiny chance to get that high? Be serious two seconds. Wanna talk about the company heads, of McDonalds since we are at it? McDonalds' new CEO, first, raised his salary by 69% as soon as he got the job. SIXTY-NINE. For having no experience on that job whatsoever. He did it just because he could and wanted money like a greedy enslaver. While people like you and me struggle in this economical crisis to get through, this guy dares to raises his salary of that much, for a total of 1.1 million, while his predecessor left with 3 millions for a one-year consulting agreement. We are talking about MILLIONS. And it's a CEO, not even the company creator or owner. Let's be serious two seconds there, bear with me. If that guy, who's getting 1.1 million per year, lowered his year salary at, let's say 480.000$ (which is still 40k$ per month, more than enough to live in luxury and decadency), all the money left could go to the employees, or given to charity to help American's extreme poverty. But nooo. They are selfish, and don't care about others, nor their company, nor their employees. All they want is to get their pockets full of money while juicing the hell out of other people like parasites, all the while placing their money in tax heavens so they barely even pay taxes (making the US losing money on those taxes, you know, the ones you and I are still paying). People defending big company owners makes me sick, they are defending what makes this world go wrong.

Edited August 22, 201510 yr by Hystery

To be fairly honest, it's like saying "2+2=4? It's complete load of garbage". He didn't speak his mind, he spoke the truth, you just have to look out at the window to realize it. World isn't what it was 40 years ago (which republicans seem to think). It doesn't work like "You want to be stinking rich? Do something of your life". The whole "America, land of opportunities" is outdated now, it's not working anymore. Unemployment exists because there's no job, not because people are lazy.

All of this is true.

But the even sadder part is that there are jobs, the job market is relatively healthy. But they're higher-level jobs, meaning that you need a college degree to even apply. In order to get that college degree, you need a whole bunch of money. Then once you get that college degree, you graduate with so much student loan debt that you can't pursue the career that you got your degree for in the first place. And you can't even reach that level of screwed if you don't have enough money to afford college. And if you can't afford to go to college, you have to get a minimum wage job. And we're right back where we started. We've been systematically screwed from top to bottom.

Do you even read what you're typing? Sure, the company owner didn't get there by being a quitter. But do you -really- think that the poor McDonalds' employee, who's treated almost like an animal, who's getting paid like shit, who's working in terrible conditions just has even one little tiny chance to get that high? Be serious two seconds. Wanna talk about the company heads, of McDonalds since we are at it? McDonalds' new CEO, first, raised his salary by 69% as soon as he got the job. SIXTY-NINE. For having no experience on that job whatsoever. He did it just because he could and wanted money like a greedy enslaver. While people like you and me struggle in this economical crisis to get through, this guy dares to raises his salary of that much, for a total of 1.1 million, while his predecessor left with 3 millions for a one-year consulting agreement. We are talking about MILLIONS. And it's a CEO, not even the company creator or owner. Let's be serious two seconds there, bear with me. If that guy, who's getting 1.1 million per year, lowered his year salary at, let's say 480.000$ (which is still 40k$ per month, more than enough to live in luxury and decadency), all the money left could go to the employees, or given to charity to help American's extreme poverty. But nooo. They are selfish, and don't care about others, nor their company, nor their employees. All they want is to get their pockets full of money while juicing the hell out of other people like parasites, all the while placing their money in tax heavens so they barely even pay taxes (making the US losing money on those taxes, you know, the ones you and I are still paying). People defending big company owners makes me sick, they are defending what makes this world go wrong.

I don't know how French McDonalds restaurants are, but here in America the workers aren't treated like animals...

Edited August 22, 201510 yr by MayhemMercenary

I don't know how French McDonalds restaurants are, but here in America the workers aren't treated like animals...

Good way to address one point and ignore the whole argumentation about CEO's and how much of parasites they are.

Good way to address one point and ignore the whole argumentation about CEO's and how much of parasites they are.

I am not arguing that some CEOs and company owners aren't greedy, because that would be ludicrous.

I don't know how French McDonalds restaurants are, but here in America the workers aren't treated like animals...

I can't speak for France as it has been several years since I have been there but I know that workers at McDonalds here in Germany have much better work conditions than workers in the US.

The US election is a joke.  On the republican side you have Trump who's proposed plans have been proven to fail consistently and then you have bought out politicians for the rest of them.  Then on the Democratic side (which is basically like the Republicans of the 1980s as far as a political standpoint goes), you have bought out politicians and then Bernie Sanders who actually wants to go after big banks, etc and get money out of politics.  Basically unless if Bernie wins, the US is screwed as Celery Clinton is paid off by big banks and corporations as well as the rest of the republican field.

The US election is a joke.  On the republican side you have Trump who's proposed plans have been proven to fail consistently and then you have bought out politicians for the rest of them.  Then on the Democratic side (which is basically like the Republicans of the 1980s as far as a political standpoint goes), you have bought out politicians and then Bernie Sanders who actually wants to go after big banks, etc and get money out of politics.  Basically unless if Bernie wins, the US is screwed as Celery Clinton is paid off by big banks and corporations as well as the rest of the republican field.

US elections have been a joke for some time now, this isn't anything new and the American people understand it. In 2004, only 58% of people voted in the presidential election; and that's the highest it's been since 1968. Just doing a bit of math here, that's the year that Obama first ran for president. The number of voters probably increased due to the fact that 97% of ALL American blacks went and voted, for Obama. That's just a little more than half, and that's not good. The American people are tired of it. Doesn't matter who we vote into office, nothing ever changes. Every politician says the same thing as Donald Trump really, "Make America great again". 

If you think what he said was a complete load of garbage then you have obviously never had to get a job. Don't worry, even if don't understand now you will understand when you go out into the real world and start applying to work places. You want to know one of the reasons why I am active duty military right now and not reserves or national guard? Because I kept getting shot down while applying for jobs; employers told me they wanted to see more experience on my resume. There were a few other reasons I decided to go active duty but my original plan was to go into the reserves or national guard, I never really planned on doing any time in active duty but look at where I am now.

I currently work a job, and it's the 6th job I applied to and the only one to call me back. I understand how hard it is to get a job, that's not what I'm arguing here. I'm arguing, similarly to our previous discussion on welfare, that people need to get up and go look for a job before they sit around and claim that there are none available. Looking for a job is quite easy, especially in my county. They're everywhere, but getting one of those jobs is where the hard part comes in. I'm not saying that getting a job is easy, it's not. I know that from personal experience when I've been rejected personally by business owners and managers. I'm saying that if (certain) people would actually get up and go make an effort to find a job, they probably will. The next step is applying and doing what you've got to do to try and get that job. Sometimes you'll give it all you got and you just won't get the job, but someone else will for sure. That's because they have something that you don't, it's just the way the system works here. I applied to a job this weekend and got rejected, but my neighbor that lives up the block got the job. Why the hell didn't I get it if I applied first and gave the application my all? Because he has something I don't. He has a skill, quality, something that he's better at doing than I am. What's my point? Finding a job isn't the challenge, at least under my very common circumstances. Getting a job is the challenge.

Now don't take this as me attacking your service. I've got a lot of respect for you for several reasons, I just disagree that actually finding open jobs is a challenge.

Edited August 22, 201510 yr by TheDivineHustle