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Election 2016

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I'm a huge fan though and always will be :)

I like when it erupts into complete chaos. Bodies all over the place and people just fighting left and right. A few years ago the wrestlers would come out and fight and a bunch of referees had to come and break it up. They started beating up the referees and security ran out. They started beating up the security and "police" ran out and handcuffed them. It was hilariously silly. LOL

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    I respect Trump, because unlike every other candidate and politician, he speaks his mind. Too bad that humanoid robot Hilary is gonna be our next president

  • Yes, speaking his mind all the time isn't necessarily a good thing though. Part of being a leader is knowing what to say and when to say it, if you go around saying whatever you are thinking right now

  • Here's the issue with speaking your mind: It doesn't work so well if what you think is stupid and/or wrong. Here's the issue with blaming political correctness for everything: There actually are thing

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I like when it erupts into complete chaos. Bodies all over the place and people just fighting left and right. A few years ago the wrestlers would come out and fight and a bunch of referees had to come and break it up. They started beating up the referees and security ran out. They started beating up the security and "police" ran out and handcuffed them. It was hilariously silly. LOL

Haha exactly.

Hurting people's feelings isn't against the law. They'll just have to grow a set of balls and deal with it. He has every right to say whatever he wants, whether it's right or wrong. That's why I respect him. He defies the ideology of political correctness.

 You respect him for lying, just because he says it apologetically?

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I had no idea :(

"AND DONALD TRUMP WITH THE HOSTILE TAKEOVER!"

 

I could see this guy being president.

 

Trump/McMahon 2016.

I agree. While I do have respect for Donald Trump, I honestly don't think that he's competent enough to actually be our president. In all sincerity, I don't think he's really serious about running for president. I feel like he's only doing this for the media attention.

Are you kidding? Do you know how much it costs to run a campaign through to the finish? Plus, he lost all his deals with Macy's, NBC, etc. not that he needs their money, but you don't do this sort of stuff unless your serious.

It seems like I started a war over here. I really just wanted to bring attention to a clip of Donald Trump mixing it up with Mr. McMahon. In all seriousness though, if you look at history, the country changes hands every few years, from war-time leaders who crack the whip like Reagan and Bush, to peace-time leaders who increase government assistance, and espouse progressive policies like Clinton and Obama. 

 

Russia is becoming increasingly belligerent in Eastern Europe, China is cheating, immigration is a problem, not just with Mexico but worldwide. England and Greece for instance have huge issues with illegal immigration. 

 

It's time to crack the whip again. Trump or not, we need someone who does not cave in on their values for political correctness.

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Russia is becoming increasingly belligerent in Eastern Europe, China is cheating, immigration is a problem, not just with Mexico but worldwide. England and Greece for instance have huge issues with illegal immigration. 

 

It's time to crack the whip again. Trump or not, we need someone who does not cave in on their values for political correctness.

Russia is bluffing. I doubt they have the balls to go any further in Eastern Europe and the only reason they have gotten away with what they did in Ukraine is because Ukraine is not part of NATO. I highly doubt Russia will have the balls to do do the same thing they did in Ukraine to one of the Baltic NATO states like Latvia, Lithuania, or Estonia because they know that will invoke Article 5 Collective Defense.

I'm not aware of any new immigration problems with the UK or Greece. The problems the UK has been having isn't anything new and it isn't particularly bad either. And as far as Greece is concerned I haven't heard of any immigration problems whatsoever. I think considering Greece's economic situation illegal immigration is the least of their worries.

I think using Reagan and Bush as an example of "cracking the whip" is not good. Both Reagan and Bush have put us in situations that only made matters worse in the middle east. Reagan provided money and weapons to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan when the Russians invaded during the 1980s and many of the veteran Mujahideen fighters who fought the Russians in the 1980s are the same people we are fighting in Afghanistan now (Bin Laden was a veteran of that war). And George W. Bush invaded Iraq with questionable evidence of WMDs and only made the situation worse in Iraq by destabilizing the government. Saddam was no saint but he did keep that region of the world in check, even if it was through brutality.

 You respect him for lying, just because he says it apologetically?

I just told you why I respect him. I'm not going to repeat myself over and over again.

Hurting people's feelings isn't against the law. They'll just have to grow a set of balls and deal with it. He has every right to say whatever he wants, whether it's right or wrong. That's why I respect him. He defies the ideology of political correctness.

 

 

I just told you why I respect him. I'm not going to repeat myself over and over again.

Its just that people who claim to hate "political correctness" boggle my mind.

He has every right to say whatever he wants, whether it's right or wrong. That's why I respect him. 

So you respect him because he says whatever he wants, regardless of what the truth is? So if he goes up to a podium and lies,  but says it very strongly and offensively, that's what earns your respect? I'm honestly trying to understand. 

 

Its just that people who claim to hate "political correctness" boggle my mind.

So you respect him because he says whatever he wants, regardless of what the truth is? So if he goes up to a podium and lies,  but says it very strongly and offensively, that's what earns your respect? I'm honestly trying to understand. 

I respect him because he speaks his mind. He has every right under the constitution of the United States to say whatever the hell he wants to say, whether it hurts someone's feelings or not. There are so many news networks and celebrities and politicians that aren't willing to go up to a podium and say what needs to be said, because if they do they'll hurt someone's feelings and receive backlash. Donald Trump is saying what needs to be said, he's saying what America's politicians are too afraid to say. He's saying what's absolutely true, and he's taking the backlash from the liberals and advocates of political correctness like a man. Rather than crawl up and apologize because he hurt someone's feelings, he's speaking his mind like he should. He has my respect, and he's definitely got my vote, whether he's serious or not; and you just confirmed it.

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I respect him because he speaks his mind. He has every right under the constitution of the United States to say whatever the hell he wants to say, whether it hurts someone's feelings or not. There are so many news networks and celebrities and politicians that aren't willing to go up to a podium and say what needs to be said, because if they do they'll hurt someone's feelings and receive backlash. Donald Trump is saying what needs to be said, he's saying what America's politicians are too afraid to say. He's saying what's absolutely true, and he's taking the backlash from the liberals and advocates of political correctness like a man. Rather than crawl up and apologize because he hurt someone's feelings, he's speaking his mind like he should. He has my respect, and he's definitely got my vote, whether he's serious or not; and you just confirmed it.

Yes or no. Do you care if he's lying to you? 

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/06/trump-tramples-facts/

No one is questioning whether or not you can legally say what you want, we're questioning you for supporting what he says.

He's not lying is what you aren't getting.

He's speaking to a lot of people's opinions, but a lot of people's opinions aren't supported by fact. Trump is proving that it doesn't matter what you say, as long as you say it with confidence. When you say that people are "back on the battlefield" and they're sitting in Qatar under a travel ban, that's called a lie. When you say there are "no jobs" and jobs are at record highs, that's called a lie. 

  • Trump claimed that economic growth has “never” been below zero until last quarter’s drop, which is far from true. It has been below zero 42 times since 1946.
  • He said “there are no jobs” to be had. In fact, there were 5.4 million job openings recorded at the end of April, the most in 15 years.
  • He said the “real” unemployment rate is “anywhere from 18 to 20 percent” and “maybe even 21 percent.” We see no factual basis for this opinion.
  • He boasted he would have blocked new Ford plants in Mexico by threatening to impose a 35 percent tax on vehicles and parts made in Mexico and shipped to the U.S. But only Congress can impose taxes and such a tax would violate the North American Free Trade Agreement.
  • Trump claimed the five Taliban leaders exchanged for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl “are now back on the battlefield trying to kill us.” But all five remain in Qatar, where they continue to be monitored and are subject to a travel ban, according to the State Department.
  • He also made the misleading claim that health care premium costs are going “up 29, 39, 49 and even 55 percent.” He’s talking about some proposed rate increases on the individual market that still need regulatory approval. There are also proposed rate decreases or single-digit increases that did not have to be submitted for review.

Don't take this as me attacking you for your beliefs. Support any candidate that you like. But if you're looking for honesty and transparency, keep looking. Word to the wise.

 

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I respect him because he speaks his mind. He has every right under the constitution of the United States to say whatever the hell he wants to say, whether it hurts someone's feelings or not. There are so many news networks and celebrities and politicians that aren't willing to go up to a podium and say what needs to be said, because if they do they'll hurt someone's feelings and receive backlash. Donald Trump is saying what needs to be said, he's saying what America's politicians are too afraid to say. He's saying what's absolutely true, and he's taking the backlash from the liberals and advocates of political correctness like a man. Rather than crawl up and apologize because he hurt someone's feelings, he's speaking his mind like he should. He has my respect, and he's definitely got my vote, whether he's serious or not; and you just confirmed it.

Well despite what some people think you can't just go around saying and doing whatever you want. Saying what you think sounds good on paper but if we really did do that then we would be getting into more conflicts and screwing ourselves more and more. There is a time and a place for everything and Trump doesn't know when that is. Look at the Cold War, if American presidents just said what they wanted during the Cold War we might not be here today. It took a certain amount of political correctness to keep us from exchanging nukes with the Russians. Are you saying that those presidents should have said "to hell with PC, I'm just going to say what I want"?

Here's the issue with speaking your mind: It doesn't work so well if what you think is stupid and/or wrong. Here's the issue with blaming political correctness for everything: There actually are things that are simply a) offensive and b) completely and totally wrong. Trump says a lot of those things, and then says that because they're offensive he shouldn't be criticized for saying them. Offensive things can be false. Trump says a lot of false offensive things.

Basically, Trump is a perfect example of "better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt."

For those of you who actually think trump is a good candidate, 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/17/us/politics/trump-releases-plan-to-combat-illegal-immigration.html

Please do tell how making Mexico pay for a wall is a good idea. 

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"I'm a marked man, so I'm getting out of here"

 

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I'm not aware of any new immigration problems with the UK or Greece. The problems the UK has been having isn't anything new and it isn't particularly bad either. And as far as Greece is concerned I haven't heard of any immigration problems whatsoever. I think considering Greece's economic situation illegal immigration is the least of their worries.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33972632

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He's speaking to a lot of people's opinions, but a lot of people's opinions aren't supported by fact. Trump is proving that it doesn't matter what you say, as long as you say it with confidence. When you say that people are "back on the battlefield" and they're sitting in Qatar under a travel ban, that's called a lie. When you say there are "no jobs" and jobs are at record highs, that's called a lie. 

  • Trump claimed that economic growth has “never” been below zero until last quarter’s drop, which is far from true. It has been below zero 42 times since 1946.
  • He said “there are no jobs” to be had. In fact, there were 5.4 million job openings recorded at the end of April, the most in 15 years.
  • He said the “real” unemployment rate is “anywhere from 18 to 20 percent” and “maybe even 21 percent.” We see no factual basis for this opinion.
  • He boasted he would have blocked new Ford plants in Mexico by threatening to impose a 35 percent tax on vehicles and parts made in Mexico and shipped to the U.S. But only Congress can impose taxes and such a tax would violate the North American Free Trade Agreement.
  • Trump claimed the five Taliban leaders exchanged for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl “are now back on the battlefield trying to kill us.” But all five remain in Qatar, where they continue to be monitored and are subject to a travel ban, according to the State Department.
  • He also made the misleading claim that health care premium costs are going “up 29, 39, 49 and even 55 percent.” He’s talking about some proposed rate increases on the individual market that still need regulatory approval. There are also proposed rate decreases or single-digit increases that did not have to be submitted for review.

1. Yes, but it is a serious problem. GDP is the sum of Consumption (C), Investment (I), Government Spending (G) and Net Exports (X – M): Y = C + I + G + (X - M). In the US, GDP is going up very slightly, but C, I, and X are going down. Which means government spending is going WAY up. So economic growth could use a shot in the arm.

2.) In a country of 318 million, that's nothing to be excited about. Good jobs are not easy to find. Like Trump says, China and Mexico have a considerable amount of jobs that used to be here. Protective tariffs would, like he said, encourage jobs to come back.

3.) The unemployment rate used by the Bureau of Labor Statistics does not factor in people who have given up looking for work or who are underemployed. There is no exact number but his estimate is accurate.

4.) Yes, technically he himself could not, but if really wanted something done about that and he was President, he'd find a way.

5.) Something tells me those 5 guys aren't exactly the type to re-integrate into society. Don't take my word for it: http://nypost.com/2015/03/25/prisoners-swapped-for-accused-deserter-bergdahl-have-tried-to-rejoin-terror-networks/

6.) Premiums are going up. By 50% in one case in New Mexico. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/how-affordable-is-the-affordable-care-act-118428.html

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1. Yes, but it is a serious problem. GDP is the sum of Consumption (C), Investment (I), Government Spending (G) and Net Exports (X – M): Y = C + I + G + (X - M). In the US, GDP is going up very slightly, but C, I, and X are going down. Which means government spending is going WAY up. So economic growth could use a shot in the arm.

But is what he said actually true? No. Not at all.

2.) In a country of 318 million, that's nothing to be excited about. Good jobs are not easy to find. Like Trump says, China and Mexico have a considerable amount of jobs that used to be here. Protective tariffs would, like he said, encourage jobs to come back

 But is what he said actually true? Flat out lie.

3.) The unemployment rate used by the Bureau of Labor Statistics does not factor in people who have given up looking for work or who are underemployed. There is no exact number but his estimate is accurate

 But is what he said actually true? No. No factual basis whatsoever.

4.) Yes, technically he himself could not, but if really wanted something done about that and he was President, he'd find a way.

  But is what he said actually true? No. If he went up to the podium and explained his positions on trade negotiation, he wouldn't be doing well in the polls. 

5.) Something tells me those 5 guys aren't exactly the type to re-integrate into society. Don't take my word for it: http://nypost.com/2015/03/25/prisoners-swapped-for-accused-deserter-bergdahl-have-tried-to-rejoin-terror-networks

 But is what he said actually true? No. Qatar is not a battlefield. Trump isn't happy about the exchange, but that's not enough for him. He has to use misleading rhetoric to get people's attention.

6.) Premiums are going up. By 50% in one case in New Mexico. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/how-affordable-is-the-affordable-care-act-118428.html

 But is what he said actually true? No. Again, that is still a proposed premium rate. They can easily be denied by regulators.

 

 

If Obama stretched the truth like this, there is exactly a 0% chance that conservatives would be loving him for his lack of "political correctness". They would be up in arms, 24/7 coverage on Fox News about King Obama's lies. 

In my opinion, Sanders should be the POTUS, because he would end the outsourcing of American employment to China, by revoking treaties which do just that. He actually cares about civil rights, since he was arrested for a sit-in demonstration when he was a teenager in the 1960s. He promises proper redistribution of wealth,  a better public education system, a single-pay system for healthcare, and an end to corporate lobbying.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/

I might look like a total sheeple for Sanders, but I encourage you to go to this link and thoroughly study his ideas on how to change this country.

In my opinion, Sanders should be the POTUS, because he would end the outsourcing of American employment to China, by revoking treaties which do just that. He actually cares about civil rights, since he was arrested for a sit-in demonstration when he was a teenager in the 1960s. He promises proper redistribution of wealth,  a better public education system, a single-pay system for healthcare, and an end to corporate lobbying.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/

I might look like a total sheeple for Sanders, but I encourage you to go to this link and thoroughly study his ideas on how to change this country.

Agreed. He is obviously a good candidate, and doesn't flip flop on issues.

 

 

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