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[DEBATE] Your Opinion On Legalizing Marijuana

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There are many things much more detrimental to society then marijuana. Being the son of two parents who are both coppers, and having had my mother lead a "Serious Crime Unit" or a fancy name for drug unit in Canada, marijuana wasn't a priority what so ever.

 

If anyone actually thinks their are social repercussions to legalizing marijuana they are naive to the fact large proportions of society (at least in Canada) smoke it regardless. It's a losing battle and can't be won. 

 

As for being a Police Officer (or auxiliary) for that matter, doing something opposed to guidelines is wrong and shows a lack of character. I'm not making a judgement call serg, but being someone who has gone extremely far into police applications for full time constable, doing drugs within 3-5 years of an application usually is an automatic DQ. I don't know what it's like where you are from however.

 

The thing about policing that a lot of people neglect to appreciate is that it is a job of empathy, you need to understand why people smoke it/ and who they are. For the most part they are young people who do it along side drinking. When I was in high school it was a lot easier for me to purchase marijuana then alcohol. Anything legalised becomes regulated and with that, further kept out of youths hands it also reduces the "gateway" drug theory when governments regulate it. I know of many people who reap the rewards of Medicinal Marijuana and also who use it as a method of having fun as opposed to alcohol. I don't condone doing something that is illegal, and after grade 10 in high school discontinued doing it myself however I don't place judgement on my friends who continue to do it in their own dwelling away from the public. 

 

The simple answer "no" (or just a "yes" it should be legalized for that matter) it should not be legalized is a ridiculous answer and shows a lack of both empathy and understanding of society. At least provide explanation and purpose to your opinion. Good luck explaining questions in job interviews or for that matter police panel interviews with a "Yes" or "No" answer. Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean you can't do research and make a conclusive decision on your own. If you do research, from credible sources (Health Canada for one) and find that you still believe Marijuana to be a dangerous drug, then sure make your argument, and I'll at least respect your opinion for its merit. However, being afraid to step out of your bubble and teaching oneself about the drug is a terrible excuse (IMHO). 

 

No I don't think marijuana should be illegal, some who stated it would be easier for youth to access marijuana if it was legal are also stuck in LALA land as per what I said in paragraph 4.

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    Hell no.   When you hear about legalizing marijuana, you always hear that it will lower crime and boost the economy. To be honest, I think that is the biggest load of bullshit. With the regarding cr

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If you want to smoke in your own house, away from others, fine and dandy by me. Just don't take it out in the streets. You can't second-hand drink, if you know what I mean. If someone smokes, there is a chance I have to inhale this smoke. Now, I don't care how good you say it is, it's smoke. Smoke isn't good to put in you. I don't care if you put it into yourself, that's your private business, but risking others to do the same thing, involuntarily? No way. 

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I guess you will just have too.

 

 

What bugs me is, from your previous posts you don't have a legit reason to be against besides what mommy & daddy tells you, your basically saying "Marijuana is bad because it's wrong" with no actual reason to back that up, if you think weed is addictive then please, run yourself into a wall, as hard as you can.

WHY is it wrong in your eyes?

HOW is it wrong?

I used to go to school all the time high off my ass & I didn't care who knew about it, had a good night sleep ate absolutely everything in sight, even the crap I didn't like..

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I personally could care less what would happen, but if it is legalized, I think it should be treated just like beer and cigarettes. It should only be used in certain designated areas, like cigarettes, and if you consume any, either eating or smoking, and you are caught driving, it should be considered a DUI, just like alcohol. I also believe that for rec use, it should be used not only in the designated areas in public, but it should not be used in public, i.e. you shouldn't be walking down the street blazing while little Johnny and little Susie are walking down beside you. Just my own opinion. 

(Not trying to sound mean or whatever) But aren't you a cop? And doesn't about every DEPT. have a question on their application that ask if you have ever used a drug in the pass three years? Now I do understand if you made a mistake in your "teen years" and also we are all human and make mistakes.

 

 

That's a little ignorant, don't you think? I feel that if a cop is to truly understand what the average person goes through on a daily basis, they should have had to live it sometime in their lives, just because he did smoke weed as a teen & is a cop now, I wouldn't say it was a mistake & they over looked it, so it couldn't have been that serious.

 

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omg - I am laughing so hard right now - I didnt know there was SOO many Sheep on this website my god!

 

Little Tip to ppl who know it should be legal...
Dont even bother typing anything - The 13 year olds on this site seem to know everything in the world... and no matter how much legitimate scientific FACTS you provide, these kids will just skip right past it and say: "My mommy told me it was a drug and drugs are bad!"

 

I think its so funny they believe the bullshit and lies..So small minded. The logical fallacy of Marijuana has long been disproved - But like all sheeple - what they are told is truth, no need for research.

 

 

P.S. Over 50% OF AMERICANS WANT IT LEGALIZED...OH AND ITS LEGAL IN 2 STATES ALREADY!!! - YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE HAPPENING IF ITS REALLY THAT BAD?

omg - I am laughing so hard right now - I didnt know there was SOO many Sheep on this website my god!

 

Little Tip to ppl who know it should be legal...

Dont even bother typing anything - The 13 year olds on this site seem to know everything in the world... and no matter how much legitimate scientific FACTS you provide, these kids will just skip right past it and say: "My mommy told me it was a drug and drugs are bad!"

 

I think its so funny they believe the bullshit and lies..So small minded. The logical fallacy of Marijuana has long been disproved - But like all sheeple - what they are told is truth, no need for research.

 

 

P.S. Over 50% OF AMERICANS WANT IT LEGALIZED...OH AND ITS LEGAL IN 2 STATES ALREADY!!! - YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE HAPPENING IF ITS REALLY THAT BAD?

 

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omg - I am laughing so hard right now - I didnt know there was SOO many Sheep on this website my god!

 

Little Tip to ppl who know it should be legal...

Dont even bother typing anything - The 13 year olds on this site seem to know everything in the world... and no matter how much legitimate scientific FACTS you provide, these kids will just skip right past it and say: "My mommy told me it was a drug and drugs are bad!"

 

I think its so funny they believe the bullshit and lies..So small minded. The logical fallacy of Marijuana has long been disproved - But like all sheeple - what they are told is truth, no need for research.

 

 

P.S. Over 50% OF AMERICANS WANT IT LEGALIZED...OH AND ITS LEGAL IN 2 STATES ALREADY!!! - YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE HAPPENING IF ITS REALLY THAT BAD?

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I personally am against legalization of marijuana. Most of my friends have smoked a joint at least one time and they're behaving completely normal. I don't condemn people who are marijuana-consumers but saying that the drug has no side effects just isn't correct.

 

You know, our society unfortunately already has two legal drugs - tobacco and alcohol, both are bad for your health but we won't ban them because they're a social "ritual". Yes, tobacco is bad for your lungs and alcohol is bad for your liver (to a certain extent for your brain). If we could go back in time and decide which drugs we want to legalize and if we had to chose 2, I would say let's take alcohol and marijuana. But now that tobacco and alcohol are legal I feel that adding a third drug to that wouldn't benefit our society. Because marijuana isn't harmless - it is a psychotropic substance, that's why people consume it, if it wouldn't have any effect, people wouldn't smoke marijuana. There are a lot of people with alcohol or tobacco related health problems, now if you make marijuana completely legal and easily accessible (even more easy than it already is) there will be more patients who deal with the effects of marijuana.

 

From a medical point of view, alcohol can cause epilepsy after withdrawal when consumed for a long time, marijuana can be a trigger-factor for psychiatric diseases. I won't say marijuana will cause these diseases but as we know nowadays, genetics influence the probability of having psychiatric diseases, now you might never become ill, but if u consume marijuana regularily it might act as a trigger. Also, marijuana is suspected (like alcohol) to cause Alzheimer's disease - read more on the subject of how Alzheimer's develops - and from having seen a lot of Alzheimer's patients, I wouldn't take the risk of ever getting that disease.

But you also have to consume marijuana somehow - you smoke it. While smoking a joint isn't as bad for your lungs as smoking a cigarette, it certainly does harm the lungs. Like alcohol, marijuana doesn't to a lot of harm to one organ but little harm to a lot of organs. I drink alcohol every weekend and I won't ever get ill from that, unlike a lot of other people with alcohol problems. The same goes for marijuana, a lot of people won't get ill from that, but there certainly will be more people getting ill from it when it is legalized. Like alcohol, marijuana can act as an escape from reality for people.

 

So to clear up some of the medical misinterpretations in this topic:

  • Marijuana affects the dopamine inside the brain? - No it doesn't. Cocaine does affect the D1 and D2 (dopamine) receptors inside the brain, marijuana doesn't. Theoretically you should be able to treat Parkinson's with cocaine because the effects of cocaine counteract the effects of Parkinson's. But nobody would do that because cocaine does have a hell lot of negative side effects. That leads me to point 2:
  • Marijuana can heal epilepsy? - I have read the article about the little girl with epilepsy. Marijuana is a muscle relaxant so it makes sense, but also, marijuana somehow affects the chemical balance inside our brain. On the one hand this influence can cause epilepsy to stop for some patients (because epilepsy mainly is an imbalance in the brain's chemical structure that causes neurones to fire uncontrollably) but on the other hand - especially with children - it changes this balance and that is especially harmful for a brain in development. I really wan't to read a study on that in 20 years from now, how the brain of that girl developed. It is like alcohol, giving a child alcohol when it is 7 years old or so can cause its brain to develop in a wrong way.
  • Marijuana can heal cancer? - No it can't. As simple as that. Marijuana is mainly used for pain therapy and it is good for that. But marijuana can not kill cancer cells, it has no effects on these cells unlike chemotherapy that is designed specially for a special sort of cancer. So while marijuana might take the patient's pain it may help him "activate" his self-healing-powers. But that's mainly a psychological thing and doesn't work for a lot of people.
  • Marijuana has no sideeffects/You can't OD marijuana? - Yes it does have sideffects like the ones I mentionned above: Alzheimer's, smoking it harms the lungs, trigger for psychiatric diseases, ... Also you can indeed OD marijuana. That's known as cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome - unfortunately people rarely diagnose it right because the patient won't admit smoking marijuana and the symptoms are similar to other diseases. But it definitely IS caused by marijuana (symptoms are vomiting/severe nausea and colicky abdominal pain - the symptoms stop after stopping to consume marijuana).

Also the death statistics have to interpretated correctly: People don't die from smoking cigarettes or drinking alcohol, they die from diseases they got from smoking cigarettes (like COPD) or asphyxiation when unconscious because of too much alcohol or because of liver-diseases like alcoholic cirrhosis. Of course cigarettes and alcohol are the reasons behind the death, but patients don't die directly from it unlike heroine that causes breathing arrest when OD (which actually is pretty easy to counteract, there's a nice memory hook: "Every junkie gets Narcanti").

 

So there are a lot of things that people don't think of when talking about the legalization of marijuana. I know it isn't the most dangerous drug, and it makes sense when used as a prescription drug in medicine but I wouldn't legalize it because we already have 2 legal drugs that affect our society in bad ways sometimes and adding a third drug to that most certainly wouldn't benefit it either. Defenders of marijuana always come up with some medical "wonders" that - when viewed from a scientific point - aren't "wonders" at all and might come with serious side-effects.

 

Monologue end.

I personally am against legalization of marijuana. Most of my friends have smoked a joint at least one time and they're behaving completely normal. I don't condemn people who are marijuana-consumers but saying that the drug has no side effects just isn't correct.

 

You know, our society unfortunately already has two legal drugs - tobacco and alcohol, both are bad for your health but we won't ban them because they're a social "ritual". Yes, tobacco is bad for your lungs and alcohol is bad for your liver (to a certain extent for your brain). If we could go back in time and decide which drugs we want to legalize and if we had to chose 2, I would say let's take alcohol and marijuana. But now that tobacco and alcohol are legal I feel that adding a third drug to that wouldn't benefit our society. Because marijuana isn't harmless - it is a psychotropic substance, that's why people consume it, if it wouldn't have any effect, people wouldn't smoke marijuana. There are a lot of people with alcohol or tobacco related health problems, now if you make marijuana completely legal and easily accessible (even more easy than it already is) there will be more patients who deal with the effects of marijuana.

 

From a medical point of view, alcohol can cause epilepsy after withdrawal when consumed for a long time, marijuana can be a trigger-factor for psychiatric diseases. I won't say marijuana will cause these diseases but as we know nowadays, genetics influence the probability of having psychiatric diseases, now you might never become ill, but if u consume marijuana regularily it might act as a trigger. Also, marijuana is suspected (like alcohol) to cause Alzheimer's disease - read more on the subject of how Alzheimer's develops - and from having seen a lot of Alzheimer's patients, I wouldn't take the risk of ever getting that disease.

But you also have to consume marijuana somehow - you smoke it. While smoking a joint isn't as bad for your lungs as smoking a cigarette, it certainly does harm the lungs. Like alcohol, marijuana doesn't to a lot of harm to one organ but little harm to a lot of organs. I drink alcohol every weekend and I won't ever get ill from that, unlike a lot of other people with alcohol problems. The same goes for marijuana, a lot of people won't get ill from that, but there certainly will be more people getting ill from it when it is legalized. Like alcohol, marijuana can act as an escape from reality for people.

 

So to clear up some of the medical misinterpretations in this topic:

  • Marijuana affects the dopamine inside the brain? - No it doesn't. Cocaine does affect the D1 and D2 (dopamine) receptors inside the brain, marijuana doesn't. Theoretically you should be able to treat Parkinson's with cocaine because the effects of cocaine counteract the effects of Parkinson's. But nobody would do that because cocaine does have a hell lot of negative side effects. That leads me to point 2:
  • Marijuana can heal epilepsy? - I have read the article about the little girl with epilepsy. Marijuana is a muscle relaxant so it makes sense, but also, marijuana somehow affects the chemical balance inside our brain. On the one hand this influence can cause epilepsy to stop for some patients (because epilepsy mainly is an imbalance in the brain's chemical structure that causes neurones to fire uncontrollably) but on the other hand - especially with children - it changes this balance and that is especially harmful for a brain in development. I really wan't to read a study on that in 20 years from now, how the brain of that girl developed. It is like alcohol, giving a child alcohol when it is 7 years old or so can cause its brain to develop in a wrong way.
  • Marijuana can heal cancer? - No it can't. As simple as that. Marijuana is mainly used for pain therapy and it is good for that. But marijuana can not kill cancer cells, it has no effects on these cells unlike chemotherapy that is designed specially for a special sort of cancer. So while marijuana might take the patient's pain it may help him "activate" his self-healing-powers. But that's mainly a psychological thing and doesn't work for a lot of people.
  • Marijuana has no sideeffects/You can't OD marijuana? - Yes it does have sideffects like the ones I mentionned above: Alzheimer's, smoking it harms the lungs, trigger for psychiatric diseases, ... Also you can indeed OD marijuana. That's known as cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome - unfortunately people rarely diagnose it right because the patient won't admit smoking marijuana and the symptoms are similar to other diseases. But it definitely IS caused by marijuana (symptoms are vomiting/severe nausea and colicky abdominal pain - the symptoms stop after stopping to consume marijuana).
Also the death statistics have to interpretated correctly: People don't die from smoking cigarettes or drinking alcohol, they die from diseases they got from smoking cigarettes (like COPD) or asphyxiation when unconscious because of too much alcohol or because of liver-diseases like alcoholic cirrhosis. Of course cigarettes and alcohol are the reasons behind the death, but patients don't die directly from it unlike heroine that causes breathing arrest when OD (which actually is pretty easy to counteract, there's a nice memory hook: "Every junkie gets Narcanti").

 

So there are a lot of things that people don't think of when talking about the legalization of marijuana. I know it isn't the most dangerous drug, and it makes sense when used as a prescription drug in medicine but I wouldn't legalize it because we already have 2 legal drugs that affect our society in bad ways sometimes and adding a third drug to that most certainly wouldn't benefit it either. Defenders of marijuana always come up with some medical "wonders" that - when viewed from a scientific point - aren't "wonders" at all and might come with serious side-effects.

 

Monologue end.

 

 

Another misinformed person - Where are ALL these facts coming from?

 

I have smoked Marijuana EVERYDAY for over 1000 days straight - Doctor said dont do it - 3 years later, not a SINGLE THING wrong - No Lung problems,defiantly no CHS

oh..and Im a programmer who manages a huge database and multiple servers daily - STONED.

 

For you to even compare giving all those kids (Not just 1 girl..100's of kids are Cannabinoids for treating an array of illnesses) alcohol vs marijuana is WRONG. You cant even begin to compare the effect on your entire body alcohol has.

 

 

Marijuana can heal cancer? - No .....Correction... YES

 

In a recent report, the National Cancer Institute (NCI), part of the Federal government’s National Institutes of Health (NIH), stated that marijuana “inhibited the survival of both estrogen receptor–positive and estrogen receptor–negative breast cancer cell lines.”

 

A study published in the British Journal of Cancerconducted by the Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology at Complutense University in Madrid, this study determined that Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and other cannabinoids inhibit tumour growth.

 

 A study published in The Journal of Neuroscience examined the biochemical events in both acute neuronal damage and in slowly progressive, neurodegenerative diseases. They conducted a magnetic resonance imaging study that looked at THC (the main active compound in marijuana) and found that it reduced neuronal injury in rats.

 

A study published in The Journal of Pharmacology And Experimental Therapeutics already acknowledged the fact that cannabinoids have been shown to possess antitumor properties.

 

A study published in the journal Molecular Cancer Therapeutics outlines how brain tumours are highly resistant to current anticancer treatments, which makes it crucial to find new therapeutic strategies aimed at improving the poor prognosis of patients suffering from this disease. This study also demonstrated the reversal of tumour activity in Glioblastoma multiforme.

 

 A study published in the US National Library of Medicine, conducted by the California Pacific Medical Centre determined that cannabidiol (CBD) inhibits human breast cancer cell proliferation and invasion. They also demonstrated that CBD significantly reduces tumour mass.

 

A study published in The Journal of Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics determined that THC as well as cannabidiol dramatically reduced breast cancer cell growth. They confirmed the potency and effectiveness of these compounds.

 

 A study published in the Journal Molecular Cancer showed that THC reduced tumour growth and tumour numbers. They determined that cannabinoids inhibit cancer cell proliferation, induce cancer cell apoptosis and impair tumour angiogenesis (all good things). This study provides strong evidence for the use of cannabinoid based therapies for the management of breast cancer.

 

A study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America (PNAS) determined that cannabinoids inhibit human breast cancer cell proliferation.

 

A study published in the journal Oncogeneby Harvard Medical Schools Experimental Medicine Department determined that THC inhibits epithelial growth factor induced lung cancer cell migration and more. They go on to state that THC should be explored as novel therapeutic molecules in controlling the growth and metastasis of certain lung cancers.

 

 A study published by the US National Library of Medicine by the Institute of Toxicology and Pharmacology, from the Department of General Surgery in Germany determined that cannabinoids inhibit cancer cell invasion. Effects were confirmed in primary tumour cells from a lung cancer patient.  Overall, data indicated that cannabinoids decrease cancer cell invasiveness.

 

A study published by the US National Library of Medicine, conducted by Harvard Medical School investigated the role of cannabinoid receptors in lung cancer cells. They determined its effectiveness and suggested that it should be used for treatment against lung cancer cells.

 

 A study published in the US National Library of Medicine illustrates a decrease in prostatic cancer cells by acting through cannabinoid receptors.

 

 A study published in the journal Molecular Pharmacology recently showed that cannabinoids induce growth inhibition and apoptosis in matle cell lymphoma. The study was supported by grants from the Swedish Cancer Society, The Swedish Research Council and the Cancer Society in Stockholm.

 

A study published in the US National Library of Medicine conducted by the Department of Pharmacology and Toxicology by Virginia Commonwealth University determined that cannabinoids induce apoptosis in leukemia cells.

 

 A study published by the US National Library of Medicine results show cannabinoids are potent inhibitors of cellular respiration and are toxic to highly malignant oral Tumours.

 

A study published by the US National Library of Medicine determined that that THC reduces the viability of human HCC cell lines (Human hepatocellular liver carcinoma cell line) and reduced the growth.

 

A study published in The American Journal of Cancer determined that cannabinoid receptors are expressed in human pancreatic tumor cell lines and tumour biopsies at much higher levels than in normal pancreatic tissue. Results showed that cannabinoid administration induced apoptosis. They also reduced the growth of tumour cells, and inhibited the spreading of pancreatic tumour cells.

 

.........NEED I GO ON?!

 

 

Also you can indeed OD marijuana. - WRONG AGAIN, Sorta....

 

A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce an overdose. - Well I guess your right...lmfao!

Shit - Ill even be the first one to do it if you can get me that much!

 

 

 

While smoking a joint isn't as bad for your lungs as smoking a cigarette, it certainly does harm the lungs ....Again WRONG.

 

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/11/marijuana-smoking-does-not-harm-lungs-study-finds/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

 

 

Im bored, I could tear apart your entire post, but Im gonna stop wasting my time here, Just wanted to make sure false facts were being spread.

 

 

 

 

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Im bored, I could tear apart your entire post, but Im gonna stop wasting my time here, Just wanted to make sure false facts were being spread.

 

You could not tear apart my entire post because it seems like you didn't read what I posted. Of course moderate marijuana consumation doesn't harm the lungs. If you smoke a cigarette only when you go out clubbing every two weeks for 10 years your lungs will eventually heal. But you do smoke it and you do inhale the smoke. If you do that regularily it won't harm your lungs as much as cigarettes but it WILL harm them.

 

You CAN OD marijuana, I don't know where you have these numbers from because cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome is a known medical syndrome caused by a marijuana overdose. OD doesn't mean death, that's what your numbers say: The amount of marijuana needed to kill you. But overdose doesn't mean death. Only for heroine and other hard drugs where ODing equals dying. There are also other medicaments that cause nausea or unconsciousness when OD but you don't die from them.

 

And marijuana doesn't heal cancer, read the studies, you might see I am right. They stop cell growth, they act as inhibitory factor for tumor cells (yeah there also is this study about apoptosis, I give you that), but the don't kill the cells. Of course it's a good effect if a tumor stops growing but it doesn't kill the tumor. Also this doesn't work for every sort of tumor (not even a lot of different tumors) and there still is a lot of psychology involved.

 

Of course I can't prove anything, but I do study medicine in Munich so I know a little bit about the anatomy of our body and how different systems work, so my facts are from a valid source: university. We can of course discuss the topic further and I can try to explain you exactly what I meant and what the scientific facts behind my opinion are, write me a PM if u want to.

 

But don't say my points aren't valid because I do have an equal amount of studies on my side. Studies on the topic of marijuana are also heavily influenced by how people think about it. It is more likely to say marijuana is good for your body when you personally defend marijuana and it is more likely to say marijuana is bad for your body when you're against it.

 

Also I never said I am completely against it. I am against legalization because we don't need a third drug. Marijuana is a psychoactive drug like alcohol and therefore has its dangers. I support the use of marijuana if medically indicated for certain symptoms or diseases like the treatment of pain for cancer patients. But you don't have to insult me. Acting aggressively and insulting while stating that you consumed marijuana a lot doesn't benefit your cause either.

You could not tear apart my entire post because it seems like you didn't read what I posted. Of course moderate marijuana consumation doesn't harm the lungs. If you smoke a cigarette only when you go out clubbing every two weeks for 10 years your lungs will eventually heal. But you do smoke it and you do inhale the smoke. If you do that regularily it won't harm your lungs as much as cigarettes but it WILL harm them.

 

You CAN OD marijuana, I don't know where you have these numbers from because cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome is a known medical syndrome caused by a marijuana overdose. OD doesn't mean death, that's what your numbers say: The amount of marijuana needed to kill you. But overdose doesn't mean death. Only for heroine and other hard drugs where ODing equals dying. There are also other medicaments that cause nausea or unconsciousness when OD but you don't die from them.

 

And marijuana doesn't heal cancer, read the studies, you might see I am right. They stop cell growth, they act as inhibitory factor for tumor cells (yeah there also is this study about apoptosis, I give you that), but the don't kill the cells. Of course it's a good effect if a tumor stops growing but it doesn't kill the tumor. Also this doesn't work for every sort of tumor (not even a lot of different tumors) and there still is a lot of psychology involved.

 

Of course I can't prove anything, but I do study medicine in Munich so I know a little bit about the anatomy of our body and how different systems work, so my facts are from a valid source: university. We can of course discuss the topic further and I can try to explain you exactly what I meant and what the scientific facts behind my opinion are, write me a PM if u want to.

 

But don't say my points aren't valid because I do have an equal amount of studies on my side. Studies on the topic of marijuana are also heavily influenced by how people think about it. It is more likely to say marijuana is good for your body when you personally defend marijuana and it is more likely to say marijuana is bad for your body when you're against it.

 

Also I never said I am completely against it. I am against legalization because we don't need a third drug. Marijuana is a psychoactive drug like alcohol and therefore has its dangers. I support the use of marijuana if medically indicated for certain symptoms or diseases like the treatment of pain for cancer patients. But you don't have to insult me. Acting aggressively and insulting while stating that you consumed marijuana a lot doesn't benefit your cause either.

 

Thank you for even more proving my point - NO FACTS, NO ARTICLES - JUST WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD.

 

I drink alcohol every weekend and I won't ever get ill from that

 

That right there tells me you have no clue about anything in the medical field, so just stop making yourself look stupid.

 

And again  - Im done arguing with Misinformed Sheeple.

 

 

Thank you for even more proving my point - NO FACTS, NO ARTICLES - JUST WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD.

 

 

That right there tells me you have no clue about anything in the medical field, so just stop making yourself look stupid.

 

And again  - Im done arguing with Misinformed Sheeple.

 

Allright my friend - maybe my english isn't perfect. I am pretty sure I won't get ill from alcohol and I mean I won't get alcoholic cirrhosis or epilepsy from it because I consume alcohol moderately. The same goes for marijuana. If consumed moderately it will not do you any harm but genetic factors could cause problems with addiction, like with alcohol.

 

Don't call me misinformed and don't say I have no clue about anything in the medical field. You're just acting aggressively so stop it and stop insulting people. I have not provided any articles because I tried to explain to you what I meant. Throwing around articles doesn't help anything. I even explained to you what your articles exactly stated.

 

EDIT: There you go, studies

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3576702/ - on the subject of Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome

http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/156/4/319.short - on the subject of psychiatric diseases and marijuana

http://archpsyc.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=496554 - on the subject of psychiatric diseases and marijuana

 

and I could go on. Just quoting studies doesn't help you if you don't understand what's in them. Like I said previously: I explained to you what your study said.

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Thank you for even more proving my point - NO FACTS, NO ARTICLES - JUST WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD.

 

 

That right there tells me you have no clue about anything in the medical field, so just stop making yourself look stupid.

 

And again  - Im done arguing with Misinformed Sheeple.

 

I'm done arguing with misinformed sheeple. So you're calling the people with brains  misinformed? Woah I didn't know using your brain and looking at the health effects of smoking something is such a horrible thing. I love how you start bashing people for their opinions. You have that mindset where "Since I smoke it I know every single thing about it and everyone who doesn't smoke it is just an idiot." Your simple adolescent mindset makes me laugh. You bring up all of these "studies" which are probably all biased. You're probably under the age of 21. You said that you have no clue about anything in the medical field. I'm guessing that you have done your own tests and you're a doctor. Calling people sheeple just shows how ignorant you are including your name.     

Allright my friend - maybe my english isn't perfect. I am pretty sure I won't get ill from alcohol and I mean I won't get alcoholic cirrhosis or epilepsy from it because I consume alcohol moderately. The same goes for marijuana. If consumed moderately it will not do you any harm but genetic factors could cause problems with addiction, like with alcohol.

 

Don't call me misinformed and don't say I have no clue about anything in the medical field. You're just acting aggressively so stop it and stop insulting people. I have not provided any articles because I tried to explain to you what I meant. Throwing around articles doesn't help anything. I even explained to you what your articles exactly stated.

 

 

Don't argue with the ignorant. 

 

Another misinformed person - Where are ALL these facts coming from?

 

I have smoked Marijuana EVERYDAY for over 1000 days straight - Doctor said dont do it - 3 years later, not a SINGLE THING wrong - No Lung problems,defiantly no CHS

oh..and Im a programmer who manages a huge database and multiple servers daily - STONED.

 

For you to even compare giving all those kids (Not just 1 girl..100's of kids are Cannabinoids for treating an array of illnesses) alcohol vs marijuana is WRONG. You cant even begin to compare the effect on your entire body alcohol has.

 

 

Marijuana can heal cancer? - No .....Correction... YES

 

In a recent report, the National Cancer Institute (NCI), part of the Federal government’s National Institutes of Health (NIH), stated that marijuana “inhibited the survival of both estrogen receptor–positive and estrogen receptor–negative breast cancer cell lines.”

 

A study published in the British Journal of Cancerconducted by the Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology at Complutense University in Madrid, this study determined that Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and other cannabinoids inhibit tumour growth.

 

 A study published in The Journal of Neuroscience examined the biochemical events in both acute neuronal damage and in slowly progressive, neurodegenerative diseases. They conducted a magnetic resonance imaging study that looked at THC (the main active compound in marijuana) and found that it reduced neuronal injury in rats.

 

A study published in The Journal of Pharmacology And Experimental Therapeutics already acknowledged the fact that cannabinoids have been shown to possess antitumor properties.

 

A study published in the journal Molecular Cancer Therapeutics outlines how brain tumours are highly resistant to current anticancer treatments, which makes it crucial to find new therapeutic strategies aimed at improving the poor prognosis of patients suffering from this disease. This study also demonstrated the reversal of tumour activity in Glioblastoma multiforme.

 

 A study published in the US National Library of Medicine, conducted by the California Pacific Medical Centre determined that cannabidiol (CBD) inhibits human breast cancer cell proliferation and invasion. They also demonstrated that CBD significantly reduces tumour mass.

 

A study published in The Journal of Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics determined that THC as well as cannabidiol dramatically reduced breast cancer cell growth. They confirmed the potency and effectiveness of these compounds.

 

 A study published in the Journal Molecular Cancer showed that THC reduced tumour growth and tumour numbers. They determined that cannabinoids inhibit cancer cell proliferation, induce cancer cell apoptosis and impair tumour angiogenesis (all good things). This study provides strong evidence for the use of cannabinoid based therapies for the management of breast cancer.

 

A study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America (PNAS) determined that cannabinoids inhibit human breast cancer cell proliferation.

 

A study published in the journal Oncogeneby Harvard Medical Schools Experimental Medicine Department determined that THC inhibits epithelial growth factor induced lung cancer cell migration and more. They go on to state that THC should be explored as novel therapeutic molecules in controlling the growth and metastasis of certain lung cancers.

 

 A study published by the US National Library of Medicine by the Institute of Toxicology and Pharmacology, from the Department of General Surgery in Germany determined that cannabinoids inhibit cancer cell invasion. Effects were confirmed in primary tumour cells from a lung cancer patient.  Overall, data indicated that cannabinoids decrease cancer cell invasiveness.

 

A study published by the US National Library of Medicine, conducted by Harvard Medical School investigated the role of cannabinoid receptors in lung cancer cells. They determined its effectiveness and suggested that it should be used for treatment against lung cancer cells.

 

 A study published in the US National Library of Medicine illustrates a decrease in prostatic cancer cells by acting through cannabinoid receptors.

 

 A study published in the journal Molecular Pharmacology recently showed that cannabinoids induce growth inhibition and apoptosis in matle cell lymphoma. The study was supported by grants from the Swedish Cancer Society, The Swedish Research Council and the Cancer Society in Stockholm.

 

A study published in the US National Library of Medicine conducted by the Department of Pharmacology and Toxicology by Virginia Commonwealth University determined that cannabinoids induce apoptosis in leukemia cells.

 

 A study published by the US National Library of Medicine results show cannabinoids are potent inhibitors of cellular respiration and are toxic to highly malignant oral Tumours.

 

A study published by the US National Library of Medicine determined that that THC reduces the viability of human HCC cell lines (Human hepatocellular liver carcinoma cell line) and reduced the growth.

 

A study published in The American Journal of Cancer determined that cannabinoid receptors are expressed in human pancreatic tumor cell lines and tumour biopsies at much higher levels than in normal pancreatic tissue. Results showed that cannabinoid administration induced apoptosis. They also reduced the growth of tumour cells, and inhibited the spreading of pancreatic tumour cells.

 

.........NEED I GO ON?!

 

 

Also you can indeed OD marijuana. - WRONG AGAIN, Sorta....

 

A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce an overdose. - Well I guess your right...lmfao!

Shit - Ill even be the first one to do it if you can get me that much!

 

 

 

While smoking a joint isn't as bad for your lungs as smoking a cigarette, it certainly does harm the lungs ....Again WRONG.

 

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/11/marijuana-smoking-does-not-harm-lungs-study-finds/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

 

 

Im bored, I could tear apart your entire post, but Im gonna stop wasting my time here, Just wanted to make sure false facts were being spread.

 

 

If this doesn't convince anyone that weed isnt bad, it will take Jesus fucking Christ himself to convince them lol.

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That's a little ignorant, don't you think? I feel that if a cop is to truly understand what the average person goes through on a daily basis, they should have had to live it sometime in their lives, just because he did smoke weed as a teen & is a cop now, I wouldn't say it was a mistake & they over looked it, so it couldn't have been that serious.

 

 

Looks like you didn't read his response. And also at the end of the day in ALMOST EVERY state Marijuana is a DRUG and it is ILLEGAL. I really don't care what you think because all you are doing is trying to back up the reasons why you think marijuana is "good" and "okay". And so with that said you are trying to support the reasons of your actions. And I THINK the legalization of marijuana is horrible, treatable, and VERY STUPID and I hope it does not become legal in my state. If you want (anybody) to smoke marijuana "legally" go to Colorado or Washington and don't bring back your stupid beliefs about marijuana back here to NC. 

 

And NO I don't think that is very ignorant of me to ask, because I don't want cop going around being "high" (which he never did)

 

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Allright my friend - maybe my english isn't perfect. I am pretty sure I won't get ill from alcohol and I mean I won't get alcoholic cirrhosis or epilepsy from it because I consume alcohol moderately. The same goes for marijuana. If consumed moderately it will not do you any harm but genetic factors could cause problems with addiction, like with alcohol.

Don't call me misinformed and don't say I have no clue about anything in the medical field. You're just acting aggressively so stop it and stop insulting people. I have not provided any articles because I tried to explain to you what I meant. Throwing around articles doesn't help anything. I even explained to you what your articles exactly stated.

Im acting aggressively because i have to deal with this daily, and it aggravates me ppl like you act like you know what your talking about, and spread misinformation.

And I have read every one of those articles in full text, and know exactly what they say. Maybe you should read past the Abstracts..

 

"Throwing around articles doesn't help anything" - lmfao.. So only what has been fed to you will help right?

 

You haven't provided any articles or research because its only what you have been told. Thats why you have to explain it. Because it was explained too you.

 

I'm done arguing with misinformed sheeple. So you're calling the people with brains misinformed? Woah I didn't know using your brain and looking at the health effects of smoking something is such a horrible thing. I love how you start bashing people for their opinions. You have that mindset where "Since I smoke it I know every single thing about it and everyone who doesn't smoke it is just an idiot." Your simple adolescent mindset makes me laugh. You bring up all of these "studies" which are probably all biased. You're probably under the age of 21. You said that you have no clue about anything in the medical field. I'm guessing that you have done your own tests and you're a doctor. Calling people sheeple just shows how ignorant you are including your name.

 

HAHA..O man, Im crying laughing so hard - this is just great. Ya - Im 10..you caught me.

 

The term is used to describe those who voluntarily acquiesce to a suggestion without analysis or research.

 

Using your brain and LOOKING at the health effects....... or being told what the health effects are.... BIG DIFFERENCE....

 

Didnt bash anyone simply for their opinion - If you read my post - I bashed them for presenting falsified facts.

 

No im not a doctor - but i have read 1000's of article, research papers, experiments, testing, ect.. of world renowned doctors...

If this doesn't convince anyone that weed isnt bad, it will take Jesus fucking Christ himself to convince them lol.

 

I know - They are brick walls - Idk why i even try.

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