This topic keeps getting weirder and weirder...

 

You know the saying.. "Truth is stranger then fiction.."

Do the research and you will see....

 Everyone IS being watched... Everyone is being evaluated for thier threat level. and many of YOU will end up in the FEMA reeducation camps when SHTF....

THAT line is definitely from Deus Ex: Human Revolution. Either you just joking or "your therapist has a lot to answer for" ©Trevor. No offence, but if all the reasons against government surveillance are like this one, NSA has my vote. 

Edited February 14, 201412 yr by Hastings

You know the saying.. "Truth is stranger then fiction.."

Do the research and you will see....

 

No thanks, I'm not that paranoid. *hides in GTAO apartment*

Unfortunately we seem to live in a time when spying on your own citizens is very much normal for a country. Like a lot of people before me already stated: The NSA didn't counter any terrorist attacks yet but have spied on a lot of people without any warrant or legalization. If only they "just" spied on us to "protect us from attacks", but that's not the only thing the NSA does. They spy on Angela Merkels phone. But why? Not because they suspect Mrs. Merkel to be a terrorist but to get detailed information about german economics. They spied on a lot of people in the EU. Why? Not because they suspect THEM to be terrorists but also to obtain economical information on the EU. This institution, the NSA, completely ignores laws to gain information on economics to provide them to US corporations for unfair advantages. It's not only that they spy on us, citizens of the world, but also on corporations and states and people like Mrs. Merkel to commit economic espionage. The first one, spying on our own citizens, is illegal in almost every human rights charta of the world, the second one, economic espionage, is forbidden by a lot of other laws. So how is providing US corporations with illegally obtained informations protecting the US' citizens from terrorism?

 

We can't let this flow of information and this ignorance concerning our rights get out of control. I know that, unfortunately, every country in this world needs their intelligence cervices to protect them from foreign powers. But these countrys don't need these institutions to protect themselves from their citizens. A country must not be afraid of their citizens. We already had periods in history were the control of these institutions completely failed. In Europe, we had so called "Biedermeier" (especially in Austria) where the chancellor of Austria spied on his own people. People knew that and people started to concentrate on their domestic life and were actually afraid of saying what they thought. That resulted in the revolution of 1848. In the US, McCarthyism is another example where the state spied on its own people and used the information to oppress people who thought differently, and of course, Nazi-Germany also created the StaSi to spy on its own people and arrest them, oppress them, eliminate them. Now imagine all these scenarios with the far more advanced technology of nowadays. I find it pretty disturbing to read Orwell's 1984 today because in some parts of the world that's pretty much how daily life is.

 

I am not saying that it has already come that far, but the technology the NSA posesses is very dangerous and has to be regulated carefully to stop if from spying on innocent people, use it for economic espionage and start using it again for what it was originally created for: military foreign espionage.

 

PS: The chinese spied on US companys to get economic advantages and steal patents. Now the NSA is doing that with Europe. Anybody okay with that? I am not. I think what the chinese did was illegal as is what the NSA is doing. Like i already said, I don't think a country can completely abandon foreign espionage but it must not use it as a tool to break its own laws.

"I find it pretty disturbing to read Orwell's 1984 today because in some parts of the world that's pretty much how daily life is." -  Crickethill

Amen to that... 

 

 

Edited February 14, 201412 yr by DCNortie

don't worry...the sheep of this country will get what they deserve history is repeating itself and its sad to see people saying stupid shit like oh you are paranoid or oh you are a tinfoil hat wearer...yup just keep drinking your fool-aid our government is run by the offshore banking cartel and corporations...they don't give a damn about the people only money and power it amazes me people are more concerned about a bunch of boogey men in cave rather then a government that breaks the law and is continuing to get bigger and bigger, just wait till the economy collapse it will be a domino effect and they will bring in a world currency and the rfid microp chip I wonder if these same gullible people are willing to get microchips implanted into there bodies because that's the future enjoy your "change"

Wow, we've already got 6 pages full of anti-Snowden stuff, conspiracies, weird bank-running-the-government-shit, NSA-hating and other random silliness. And all of this started with a simple request to sign a petition.

You just went full retard Canadian. The NSA is a surveillance group that have recently been accused of extracting and analyzing data from mobile phones within the United States, without the citizens' permission - which they have every right to do, since I'm pretty sure that there's some sort of elastic clause in our constitution, and if not, the same one from the 1790s.

 

I actually meant the user, not the surveillance group.

don't worry...the sheep of this country will get what they deserve history is repeating itself and its sad to see people saying stupid shit like oh you are paranoid or oh you are a tinfoil hat wearer...yup just keep drinking your fool-aid our government is run by the offshore banking cartel and corporations...they don't give a damn about the people only money and power it amazes me people are more concerned about a bunch of boogey men in cave rather then a government that breaks the law and is continuing to get bigger and bigger, just wait till the economy collapse it will be a domino effect and they will bring in a world currency and the rfid microp chip I wonder if these same gullible people are willing to get microchips implanted into there bodies because that's the future enjoy your "change"

 

Amen  brother.. well said.

 

We call em Sheeple.  People that follow what they have been programed to think and do just like sheep. They believe that their government would never lie to them,  that in times of distress the government will be there to help and other such foolish fairytale. When they do realize it will be to late and their demise will be all due to their own foolishness.

 

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

 

- Benjamin Franklin

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

 

- Benjamin Franklin

What did he say about those who prefer their 'privacy' to the prosperity of a whole nation? 

 

You just don't get it... It's either your government spies on you, or it's your government controlled by over country which spies on you. 

 "How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think."

 

- Adolph Hitler

Edited February 14, 201412 yr by DCNortie

So what? You can't destroy all the governments at the same time. Not now at least.

Edited February 14, 201412 yr by Hastings

So what? You can't destroy all the governments at the same time. Not now at least.

 

Sure you can. Stop being dependent and start to question not accept.

 

Do you research checkout the 13 bloodlines of the Illuminati....

Oh and a quick link for ya to check out. Once you find out about the group above try this following link, its Illuminati spelled backwards.  http://www.itanimulli.com

 

Anyone that thinks they are safe from their government, the banks and big business is in for a very rude awakening. Take the Red pill, join those of us that are awake and went down the rabbit hole. Awaken and see what is really going on in the matrix we live in.

This topic is about the NSA. Illuminati-style conspiracy theories aren't really what it's about; if you want to talk about them, feel free to make a thread about them.

This topic is about the NSA. Illuminati-style conspiracy theories aren't really what it's about; if you want to talk about them, feel free to make a thread about them.

 

I shalt do so.

don't worry...the sheep of this country will get what they deserve history is repeating itself and its sad to see people saying stupid shit like oh you are paranoid or oh you are a tinfoil hat wearer...yup just keep drinking your fool-aid our government is run by the offshore banking cartel and corporations...they don't give a damn about the people only money and power it amazes me people are more concerned about a bunch of boogey men in cave rather then a government that breaks the law and is continuing to get bigger and bigger, just wait till the economy collapse it will be a domino effect and they will bring in a world currency and the rfid microp chip I wonder if these same gullible people are willing to get microchips implanted into there bodies because that's the future enjoy your "change"

How much longer are you going to do this stupid stuff???? BTW do you have any EVIDENCE????????????????????

Edited February 15, 201412 yr by gamerdanger99

hilarious_animal_pictures_funny_dogs_photos_words_you_are_stupid-1MD.jpg How much longer are you going to do this stupid stuff???? BTW do you have any EVIDENCE????????????????????

 

do YOU have any evidence otherwise? no you don't...if you did a thing called research you would find this information yourself instead of calling others stupid because you don't know jack shit about whats really going on in the world and why a lot of bad things are happening, if you even bothered to look into history which you probably didn't pay attention in school did you? its people like you that I have no respect for because you resort to name calling and provide no evidence to counter my facts so go ahead and post stupid irrelevant pictures all you want but it just makes you look like an incompetent toddler, the evidence is overwhelming I did a thing called research when I used my brain back in 2007 when things didn't add up...you can do the same thing I mean its so easy a caveman can do it

Edited February 15, 201412 yr by tz71

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