EDIT: Also, I guess we probably have no idea what he *did* in intelligence. It could have been some direct action thing, if naval intelligence does that stuff. I assume that they don't tell people exactly what they do, though.

 

I just looked that up out of curiosity. They don't do any physical action (though they would still be trained in basic marksmanship). Their main job, unless changed in the War on Terror, is to figure out and report the movements of other countries naval forces and to root out spies within their ranks.

So you were right: the police training is more important tactically.

Something I'm really disappointed by: From what I saw, he tried to peacefully bring people's attention to problems in the LAPD, and was ignored. Now that he has people's attention, people will become more hostile to his ideas. It seems like there's no actual way to point out corruption.

From what I've read in the comments sections of LA news sites, most of the people in the LA area already viewed the police with distrust and knew they were still corrupt. One angle I've seen suggested on other sites I go to is that he is intending the manhunt to self destruct after the police shoot more civilians, creating more distrust for them and possibly warranting a massive federal probe into their actions.

Comments sections are a terrible gauge for what most people think. You should know this by now. If not, I'm not sure how you can view Youtube comments without wanting to kill yourself.

For example, guess who will comment on this sort of story? People who are already interested in it. You're probably more likely to post a comment on an article about the LAPD than pretty much anyone in LA, so you can't go by the "comments" standard.

Some interesting things I just found out. Apparently, he did more than just desk work:

 

He trained in river-warfare units and eventually was rated as a rifle marksman and pistol expert, according to Pentagon records.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/07/us/lapd-attacks-timeline/index.html

From someone that shoots competitively, marksman is the lowest rank in rifle accuracy. However, his rank in pistol is third highest.

 

“I will utilize every bit of small arms training, demolition, ordinance and survival training I’ve been given,” the manifesto read. “You have misjudged a sleeping giant.”

 

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/ex-police-officer-suspect-in-california-killing-spree/article8331016/?cmpid=rss1

 

It's gonna be a bitch taking him in,

 

 

 

EDIT: San Bernardino County Feed, I doubt it would include the manhunt in this ordinary frequency, but it's worth a shot

EDIT2: Looks like they are keeping the manhunt on the same frequency for some strange reason, I've heard "truck in ravine" and "command post" a few times.

Edited February 8, 201313 yr by c13

I'd be inclined to question someone who trained in river-warfare but only qualified as rifle marksman. Wouldn't that be pretty much the minimum for *any* combat role? You'd think they'd want higher scorers on SW units. As for the manifesto, obviously it shouldn't be discounted, but I'd have to point out that overconfidence isn't out of character for people who write "manifestos". We're not talking Rambo here.

I used to qualify as a marksman, but I was still a better shot than most of the cops that would be at the range with me.  For all we know, he could have made up for it with other qualifications, like UDT.

for some odd reason all i can think about reading this is

WORLDSTAR

it's weird, i was reading the comment section on that site one day(things are hilarious over there) and someone said that one day someone is just going to go on a cop killing spree

its weird that it now came true and the really weird thing about it was that this was only bout a week ago

Not sure if this is related, but a pursuit was just initiated by San Bernardino County Sheriff:

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=wp&feedId=3771

As a member of the military, Expert is our highest accuracy rating. But, qualifying as a marksman is the minimum to qualify in the military. He had minimum experience within his field and worked primarily in a operations role from what I've discovered.

My two cents.

Edited February 8, 201313 yr by ArchangelTwo

Keep in mind he also ambushed non-LAPD officers. This guy should be killed. He will not stop if police give him any room. He will continue to kill.

 

Info about other officers:

 

 

taken from here:

http://www.sbsun.com/breakingnews/ci_22541409/key-events-hunt-ex-lapd-cop-suspected-killer

 

Yes that is a good point, he is targeting any police officer that he can.

After reading the entire situation, it does indeed appear that the LAPD plays a big part in this. Nonetheless, his actions are despicable and in no way justified.

Corruption is a disease which, unfortunately, will never be completely eradicated. Just two days ago, several officers of the Miami-Dade police department were fired for ignoring emergency calls. The officer was just drinking coffee all day, with his supervisor nonetheless, just ignoring all emergency calls that came over the radio. How one could ignore a choking infant on the floor is beyond me...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/05/miami-dade-police-squad-caught-kendall_n_2621924.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
And it isn't just the US, it's everywhere. The thing is, supervisors and FTO's are vital in preventing this kind of situations. An FTO, in a way, defines what kind of police officer you'll become and which attitudes you'll develop towards crime and corruption. In return, you'll teach those values yourself to other rookies and so on.

I can post Dorner's Manifesto, it shows what an absolute nutter that guy is. It is BIG however.

 

 

Yeah what he does is wrong.

But it proves that people need to stop turning a blind eye to corruption.

 

Anyways, my part of socal is getting quite a bit of rain. I was just on the five freeway and MAN have I never seen so many CHP officers around.

 

Saw about 5 cvpis and 3 commercial vehicle enforcement vehicles.

 

I dont believe he is still on the mountain and the storm were getting is making it harder and harder for the air search.

When i first heard about this, man was it bone chilling..

As a member of the military, Expert is our highest accuracy rating. But, qualifying as a marksman is the minimum to qualify in the military. He had minimum experience within his field and worked primarily in a operations role from what I've discovered.

My two cents.

 

 

But was he attached to a RIVRON Unit? I mean if he did deploy in country (I don't know how it is in the US), I'm assuming he would have gotten the basic Pre-Deployment training package. If he was attached to a RIVRON Unit then they would have had to train him up to their unit standards (to include small unit tactics etc.).

We had clerks and medics attached to our unit. They shot the bare minimum but we made sure that they were trained to our standards when it came to small unit tactics and ambush drills.

 

Given I did seven years in the Canadian Army, I did work with American Marines, Sailors and the Army and it seemed like they knew what they were doing.

Edited February 8, 201313 yr by Comm

How much does that training involve working with others in the unit? In his case now, he doesn't have a small unit; he's on his own (so, for example, it'd be a lot harder to hit from all sides). That's not rhetorical; I don't know how small-unit and special ops training works.

I can definitely see someone in an ops role with a low rifle marksmanship grade; it'd make sense for everyone to have tactics training, even if not everyone is primarily a rifleman.

Edited February 8, 201313 yr by cp702

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You're both correct. Everyone in the unit gets a standard line of training so that he is able to function with the unit as required. As, I'm sure you know Comm, there is a baseline required in order for the unit to be at a operational standard. But, from that position forward, you then further train the men who actually serve in their direct action capacity. That's months of additional training and effort that is not previously required for those guys behind a desk. From what I've read, he sat in an AS3 role (possibly as a result of his marksmanship rating, as well as other factors) for a majority of his career. So, a lot of paperwork was the majority of his life with little continuous training made available to him.

Regardless, he brings a terrible reputation to all of those who have served in uniform, and I hope he's stopped rather quickly.

Any updates?

holy shit

this chris dorners guy is on worldstarhiphop commenting on videos

like no joke

you can tell it's him just by reading his comment

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhjCtn5LJbb2gGUHmH#disqus_thread