Realistic Usable Charges & Citations for *CompuLite* 1.5.0

45 minutes ago, Kingtutuk said:

Came across a ped with GHB (the date rape drug) and could not find listed so thought you may want to add it to your charges. I added it for my own use and put it as Schedule 3 drug as in the UK where I am it is a Class C drug. Penalties for possession here in UK are up to 2 years in prison and/or an unlimited fine. Supply holds penalties of up to 14 years in prison and/or an unlimited fine.

 

It has a lot of street names like " Gamma-OH, Liquid E, Fantasy, Georgia Home Boy, Grievous Bodily Harm, Liquid X, Liquid Ecstasy (is not ecstasy), Scoop, Water, Everclear, Great Hormones at Bedtime, GBH, Soap, Easy Lay, Salty Water, G-Riffick, Cherry Meth, and Organic Quaalude, Jib".

 

The penalties for distributing, selling or manufacturing gamma hydroxybutyrate are stiff. It is a crime of the second degree for someone to sell, distribute or manufacture GHB. The offense carries a fine of up to $150,000 and prison of 5 to 10 years.  An individual in possession of gamma hydroxybutyrate (“GHB”) is subject to a third degree crime, a fine of up to $100,000, and 0 to 5 years in jail.

Thanks for the suggestion I have that and several others for the next update. Here it is a sch 1 depressant, the GHB with Xyrem is sch 3  I have ketamine already there which is almost the same and also known as a club drug. I can tell by your suggestion that your probably like me and research what you put in your game and keep it realistic as possible. Im also in the process of putting together a extensive search menu for stop the ped it will have everything that is listed in my charge/citation xml's in one form or another plus alot more

Few minor typos that should be corrected/updated:
CITATIONS
Category: Intersections/Yeilding

Charge: Failure to MOVEOVER/Yeild to stopped Emergency Vehicle/Personel (Personnel)

CHARGES

Category: Attmptd Murder/Conspiracy

5 minutes ago, Wanderer said:

Few minor typos that should be corrected/updated:
CITATIONS
Category: Intersections/Yeilding

Charge: Failure to MOVEOVER/Yeild to stopped Emergency Vehicle/Personel (Personnel)

 

CHARGES

Category: Attmptd Murder/Conspiracy

I have a update coming soon, Thanks

Once i install the files and start the forceduty  it crashes i dont know why????

I have installed the files in the interaction folder though!!!!!

Was it the right folder???

2 hours ago, Jane OT said:

Once i install the files and start the forceduty  it crashes i dont know why????

 

I have installed the files in the interaction folder though!!!!!

Was it the right folder???

These files should have nothing to do with the crash, the correct path to install should be GTA5/Plugins/LSPDFR/CompuLite then copy and paste files when it asks if you want to replace files click yes

BUG:
Submitting a written warning under 'Citations' will make the LSPDFR plugin crash.

1 minute ago, Wanderer said:

BUG:
Submitting a written warning under 'Citations' will make the LSPDFR plugin crash.

Should have no effect as the only difference between citation and warning is the fine values removed which the way Bejoljo created the fine and sentence values thy can be changed or removed I switch over to Compulite the last couple days and have not had this issue nor when I was testing before release, I haven't had any other complaints of this either. in any case it wouldn't cause a crash at the start up when going on duty

4 minutes ago, chadc78 said:

Should have no effect as the only difference between citation and warning is the fine values removed which the way Bejoljo created the fine and sentence values thy can be changed or removed I switch over to Compulite the last couple days and have not had this issue nor when I was testing before release, I haven't had any other complaints of this either. in any case it wouldn't cause a crash at the start up when going on duty

Hmm, the plugin crashes whenever I clicked 'Submit Citations' though. I will try it out a few more times and keep you updated 🙂

Edited September 1, 20196 yr by Wanderer

50 minutes ago, Wanderer said:

 

Hmm, the plugin crashes whenever I clicked 'Submit Citations' though. I will try it out a few more times and keep you updated 🙂

Post your RPH Log

1 hour ago, Wanderer said:

BUG:
Submitting a written warning under 'Citations' will make the LSPDFR plugin crash.

Ok I went in and tried it several more times with no crash and then I checked the box for Notice to Appear and it crashed you have to uncheck the box for Notice to Appear for a warning because there is no Fine or Jail time assigned to these so if you check the Notice to Appear box for a court hearing it causes crash.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention

Edited September 1, 20196 yr by chadc78

I accidently posted my comment on the wrong page, but then I realised I was using your mod instead of the one you linked on this page. Anyway, I wanted to create an arrest report, for a perp who had an outstanding arrest warrant for a crime, though the new compulite has an entry for that your's hasn't, yes I checked. Maybe an oversight or just a case of updating your file.

2 hours ago, Ginkarasu said:

I accidently posted my comment on the wrong page, but then I realised I was using your mod instead of the one you linked on this page. Anyway, I wanted to create an arrest report, for a perp who had an outstanding arrest warrant for a crime, though the new compulite has an entry for that your's hasn't, yes I checked. Maybe an oversight or just a case of updating your file.

Im not sure what your asking me, what do you mean the new Compulite  Im a little lost here

What I asked; every so often, when you check a suspect in the computer, you might see arrest warrant for (insert crime here)
so when I want to create an arrest report, the option "Arrest warrant" should be available, which is no where to be found. However in the "updated" version of compu-lite, Bejoijo or what is his name is, included this option.

"what do you mean the new Compulite" He updated all his plug-ins yesterday.

Edited September 2, 20196 yr by Ginkarasu

14 hours ago, Ginkarasu said:

What I asked; every so often, when you check a suspect in the computer, you might see arrest warrant for (insert crime here)
so when I want to create an arrest report, the option "Arrest warrant" should be available, which is no where to be found. However in the "updated" version of compu-lite, Bejoijo or what is his name is, included this option.

 

"what do you mean the new Compulite" He updated all his plug-ins yesterday.

I don't have a charge specifically named Arrest Warrant because there is no real life charge as such and I wanted it to be realistic. When you create an arrest report then you should put in the crime in which you arrested the ped for for example if I make a traffic stop and the ped is suspended then I charge the ped with driving suspended because realistically that's the only charge to charge them with, or if I run a ped in the computer and they come back wanted then it will tell you what the charge is they are wanted for I simply arrest them and charge them with the crime that it says they are wanted for. For instance if they come back as wanted for Shoplifting then I arrest them and charge them for shoplifting there is no other charge to add to it. I wont be adding anything that isn't realistic in my files like the guy who stole my files and re uploaded here did he added non sense like state court warrant and has a charge of (Affidavit) which isn't a charge at all a Affidavit is a written statement  sworn to or under oath that is used as evidence in court oh and here is another one he added (State Court Consent Forms) Consent is either given or implied there is no such charge so if this is the type of nonsense charges that you are referring to then you wont ever find them in my File because mine are as titled (Realistic) not made up or Gameistic as that impersonator calls it. Not trying to be harsh in any manner and if I'm still mistaking what your asking me for then I apologize and will try to figure it out or maybe upload a screenshot here where it prompts you to fill in the blank for arrest warrants on compulite because I haven't seen that feature either

*EDIT*If you are referring to the "Outstanding Warrant" section in Compulite its already completed with a charge, like in the screenshot I have attached you would just charge the ped for the crime that was generated by Compulite for instance in the screenshot the ped has a warrant for Trespassing I would arrest him and create a arrest report for trespassing because that's what hes wanted for there wouldn't be an additional charge or Arrest Warrant unless he accumulated more charges while I was arresting him

Edited September 3, 20196 yr by chadc78

No you explained it perfectly, yes, I was referring to outstanding warrant.  I'm not a native English speaker and not versed in American law. Thats why I may sounded vague and I couldn't express my "issues".  But like I said you explained it perfectly, sorry if I annoyed you on my part. 

Edited September 4, 20196 yr by Ginkarasu

On 9/1/2019 at 11:09 AM, chadc78 said:

Ok I went in and tried it several more times with no crash and then I checked the box for Notice to Appear and it crashed you have to uncheck the box for Notice to Appear for a warning because there is no Fine or Jail time assigned to these so if you check the Notice to Appear box for a court hearing it causes crash.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention

Oh thanks for your help! ^^

5 minutes ago, Wanderer said:

 

Oh thanks for your help! ^^

Thank You for pointing it out I always unchecked the notice to appear box before submitting citation so I never got the crash until you pointed it out and no one else had brought it to my attention. I hope your enjoying the file and if so give it a rating, thanks again

I know you use mainly Computer+ (from what you have said in previous posts) but in Compulite (for adding warrant charges) would you recommend a "warrant issued" charge under each of the sections?

Maybe edited to reflect the minimum years (1) to maximum years for each section.

Or,

Do you think just one instance put into the court section would suffice? again edited to reflect the minimum years (1) to maximum years (Life).

Regards

8 hours ago, Kingtutuk said:

I know you use mainly Computer+ (from what you have said in previous posts) but in Compulite (for adding warrant charges) would you recommend a "warrant issued" charge under each of the sections?

Maybe edited to reflect the minimum years (1) to maximum years for each section.

Or,

Do you think just one instance put into the court section would suffice? again edited to reflect the minimum years (1) to maximum years (Life).

Regards

I'm not sure if I'm understanding your question completely, you are editing your xml to include a charge of "warrant" and your looking for penalty recommendations?

If so then I would have to say if you want to keep it realistic then you will have to add one for every charge in every category as each of those carry a different penalty, doing a blanket sentence of 1 to life wouldn't be advised you don't want a shoplifter or somebody trespassing serving a life sentence or somebody who commits murder serving a 1 year sentence

2 hours ago, chadc78 said:

I'm not sure if I'm understanding your question completely, you are editing your xml to include a charge of "warrant" and your looking for penalty recommendations?

If so then I would have to say if you want to keep it realistic then you will have to add one for every charge in every category as each of those carry a different penalty, doing a blanket sentence of 1 to life wouldn't be advised you don't want a shoplifter or somebody trespassing serving a life sentence or somebody who commits murder serving a 1 year sentence

Yes you understood, adding the warrant charge, i am not looking for penalty recommendations, Never thought about a shoplifter doing life, thanks for that heads up. With regard to realism I am just looking for general realism, not super detail, (A person could end up spending more time making and editing mods than enjoying the game), so when a ped shows "warrant issued for ...." and he gets picked up you can follow it through the court tab. If you just get him the ped picked up it does not go through the court tab so you dont know what the ped got.

The list is getting longer everytime I add to mine or you update yours, lol. Every charge getting a warrant charge seems a bit excessive for me so I will probably go with one warrant charge for each section with the min to max sentence for each section, I think that might stop a shoplifter getting life 🙂 . Thanks for your info, updates etc, keep up the good work.

12 hours ago, Kingtutuk said:

Yes you understood, adding the warrant charge, i am not looking for penalty recommendations, Never thought about a shoplifter doing life, thanks for that heads up. With regard to realism I am just looking for general realism, not super detail, (A person could end up spending more time making and editing mods than enjoying the game), so when a ped shows "warrant issued for ...." and he gets picked up you can follow it through the court tab. If you just get him the ped picked up it does not go through the court tab so you dont know what the ped got.

The list is getting longer everytime I add to mine or you update yours, lol. Every charge getting a warrant charge seems a bit excessive for me so I will probably go with one warrant charge for each section with the min to max sentence for each section, I think that might stop a shoplifter getting life 🙂 . Thanks for your info, updates etc, keep up the good work.

The simplest way would be to just charge the ped with the crime that he is wanted for. If you make a traffic stop and the ped has  a warrant for Brandishing A Firearm then charge the ped with Brandishing a Firearm, #1 he is charged with what he was wanted for #2 You can follow it through the court system #3 the penalty matches the crime . Some of the charges has different degrees of the crime or like DUI, DUI 2nd offense, DUI 3rd offense, Arson 1st,2nd,3rd etc each of these has a different penalty and even if you do a blanket penalty for each category group then your going to have people doing the lesser crimes receiving maximum penalty and peds doing the serious crimes serving minimum sentences. People mistake the term Warrant as being a actual charge and it isnt, a warrant is only authorization to charge a ped with a particular crime it in itself is not a charge or crime

Thanks.

hi @chadc78 , when from the search I find "nunchucks" , how can I quote him as an accusation ? is it illegal in California ? if it is not illegal I do not count it as a crime after the searches ...

... I use compulite because computer plus if I go to the screen to open it I see it bigger than the screen ... only with the citations I could play a little, but impossible for the accusations , I can not resize it , with compulite the screen is fine , ps but the sentences are intended as the maximum penalty? are there really heavy sentences, are they really so "long" as detention ? thanks @chadc78 

2 hours ago, Siracusa said:

hi @chadc78 , when from the search I find "nunchucks" , how can I quote him as an accusation ? is it illegal in California ? if it is not illegal I do not count it as a crime after the searches ...

... I use compulite because computer plus if I go to the screen to open it I see it bigger than the screen ... only with the citations I could play a little, but impossible for the accusations , I can not resize it , with compulite the screen is fine , ps but the sentences are intended as the maximum penalty? are there really heavy sentences, are they really so "long" as detention ? thanks @chadc78 

OK I'm going to try my best to answer your question as I understand it kinda hard. I didn't base these offenses off of California Law everything I included is based off of the region I live in and also my experience of actually being a police officer for several years and the laws and statutes that we enforced. The only states I believe that Nun chucks or Nunchaku are illegal in in the US is California, New York, Massachusetts and Arizona again I didn't base any statutes off of California even though this version of game is based there. All crimes have a Minimum and Maximum guideline for sentencing in the US and depends on a lot of factors on how much of a sentence the judge actually imposes and I think Bejoljo did a great job implementing that into Compulite and it seems as far as I can tell be random when you actually look at the court cases as to what sentence if any the ped got. to kinda answer your last question there is potential for long sentences on particular crimes and degrees of crimes and also factor in how the crime was committed and what was used during the commission of the crime etc, etc. As in most states all misdemeanor offenses carry no more than 1yr and usually these cases the time is served in County or state run Regional Jail. Felonies can carry much longer sentences just depends on the crime, the perps criminal history and so on. If you encounter a ped in game with nun-chucks as it may be on your search items depending on which you use, you have a couple options. (If the ped is using them in a threatening manner you can charge with "Assault with a deadly weapon or Aggravated Assault", if he uses  them then it would be "Battery with deadly weapon or Aggravated Battery"). ( if the ped just simply has them and you wish for them to be Illegal in your game then charge him with "Possession of Deadly weapon or Brandishing a Deadly Weapon"). Im currently in my spare time which isn't much time working on a large update for both Compulite and ComputerPlus, I will do some more research and If I can find a Statute that supports it as a defined crime then I will add it in the update. I apologize if this is to long of a response and doesn't give you the answers that you were seeking but I tried to answer the best I could and as thorough as I could as I'm really having problem understanding the questions as they are worded, I think it may be a language barrier thing.

you have been very clear thanks , perfect ! It is clearer this way , thanks for the overview , one has the clearest ideas for how to deal with the game , specifically the difference on the "battery" and assault "or" brandishing ", sorry for the my english