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Warning, it's quite graphic.

From a BBC article:

Officers from Newham had gone to an address in Albert Square, Stratford, to make an arrest when they were attacked, at about 09:00 GMT.

Four of the officers suffered serious injuries and the fifth PC has minor injuries. The animal, described as a pitbull-type dog, was shot dead.

A 25-year-old man has been arrested. He remains in custody in an east London police station.

Three of the officers, who suffered leg and hand wounds, are in a stable condition at the Royal London Hospital and one may require skin grafts. Two of their colleagues have been released.

A dog unit and armed officers from CO19 Specialist Firearms Command were called to the scene following the attack.

The animal was contained before being shot. Commander Stephen Watson said the officers came under "sustained attack".

"All five were hospitalised," he said. "Of the five, two might be described as walking wounded whereas three sustained serious injuries which will necessitate further medical intervention."

End of article (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-17475293)

Mayoral candidate Jenny Jones has made her opinion on the situation very clear stating that officers failed to do their homework prior to the arrest attempt. She believes that consideration should have been given to the potential for a dangerous dog to be on the premises.

This is another reason for why modern day policing simply cannot be done by unarmed officers, in this case, an ARV had to attend in order to shoot that fucking psycho creature dog, had the initial officers been armed, they could have shot the dog, causing much fewer injuries, and taking up far less resources, not just for the police, but for the NHS as well, all five were hospitalized, and some officers required plastic surgery.

It also highlights something that was heavily debated a few years ago here, where a "dog law" was put in place following a string of mauls done by "fighter dogs" for this exact reason.

That kind of dog serves only one purpose from nature, they are attack dogs, they are a weapon, they are designed, their brain is hard-wired to attack, don't believe what those hippie "dog psychs" say, or the "breeders" say, they are all ticking time-bombs, and should not be allowed as pets, or as guard dogs.

PC Bush, PC Merritt, PC Corderoy and PC Fray were among those who were attacked, may they have a swift recovery.

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Yeah, I saw this yesterday on the daily telegraph website yesterday however the video was from a crappy angle on a camera phone and was real short.

I'm not to sure if its a good idea for your regular police officers to carry weapons, tasers yes, but guns no. I think that if police are going to carry guns, it may cause criminals to carry them to and that really isn't what we want as its just going to cause more violent crime.

I really do hope that the injured officers make a quick recovery.

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Yeah, I saw this yesterday on the daily telegraph website yesterday however the video was from a crappy angle on a camera phone and was real short.

I'm not to sure if its a good idea for your regular police officers to carry weapons, tasers yes, but guns no. I think that if police are going to carry guns, it may cause criminals to carry them to and that really isn't what we want as its just going to cause more violent crime.

I really do hope that the injured officers make a quick recovery.

It's a necessary evil, not just to ensure the safety of your officers, but also to protect the general public.

Another angle is the resources dealing with "armed incidents" takes up as of right now, people often reports incidents to involve weapons even though they don't to ensure that police shows up that involves a larger operation as it is now, with IRV's area cars and ARV's to respond to the same incident, arming officers could cut it down to an IRV and an area car, it would also open up for cutting down on ARV's and what is currently called "armed officers", which would lead to more officers on the beat, granted, those officers are already on the beat, but they only respond to calls involving weapons, freeing them up to deal with regular calls would cut down on response times.

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Pitbulls are horrible things, are they outlawed in England? They are in Australia.

I also agree that the cops should be armed with tasers, as it'll offer more protection to the officer than that baton type thing.

They are legal however:
  • They must be neutered.
  • They must be insured.
  • They must be muzzled and kept on a lead in public.
  • They must be microchipped.
  • They must be registered.

We do have taser units, however there are only a handful of them.

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Why not equip them with Tasers, and allow them to have it (a lethal weapon) in their vehicle? ...?

Not a bad idea, but what happens when they turn up at a crime scene and a suspect flees, they don't have time to lock there car and some crackhead comes along and has got himself a nice new pistol.
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Not a bad idea, but what happens when they turn up at a crime scene and a suspect flees, they don't have time to lock there car and some crackhead comes along and has got himself a nice new pistol.

Chasing offers continue on foot with their tasers, other officers can respond VIA vehicle (faster) and they can unlock their Weapon. Response policy could be to have one unit respond (two officers) and one in the area stand by. If in the event that a chase is initiated, the other officer in the area can unlock his firearm and respond Code 2 or 3, and can provide support.
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Pitbulls are horrible things, are they outlawed in England? They are in Australia.

I also agree that the cops should be armed with tasers, as it'll offer more protection to the officer than that baton type thing.

there's nothing wrong with pitbull's, i really wish people would stop saying that, yes they were bread to fight and are fighting dog's, but most people assume and discriminate against them because they are bread to kill but with the proper obience training they can be like any other dog, when will the owner's ever be blamed for how they are? a german shephard can do the same thing.

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there's nothing wrong with pitbull's, i really wish people would stop saying that, yes they were bread to fight and are fighting dog's, but most people assume and discriminate against them because they are bread to kill but with the proper obience training they can be like any other dog, when will the owner's ever be blamed for how they are? a german shephard can do the same thing.

Yes, but there are to many reports of pitbulls hurting people. They were outlawed in Australia since they mauled several young children, killing some of them, and I think in 2009 it was, a pitbull jumped a fence a tore apart a family dog next door, the family dogs owner, a young boy stabbed the pitbull trying to get if off of his dog and it attacked him as-well. They are vicious things.

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Why not equip them with Tasers, and allow them to have it (a lethal weapon) in their vehicle? ...?

UK forces have been rolling out tasers in the recent years, and not just to firearms officers, it would help in some situations.

The second idea is already in use in Norway, the officers themselves are unarmed, but they have a weapon securely locked away in the vehicles, it seems to be an practical idea, either you have them armed all the time, or not at all.

there's nothing wrong with pitbull's, i really wish people would stop saying that, yes they were bread to fight and are fighting dog's, but most people assume and discriminate against them because they are bread to kill but with the proper obience training they can be like any other dog, when will the owner's ever be blamed for how they are? a german shephard can do the same thing.

They cannot be trained like any other dog, they are attack animals, their instincts are developed in such way, and not even the best training will prevent them from attacking.

Generally dog owners should be responsible for the behaviour of their dog, it's their responsibility to make sure that it will not attack anyone, just as with children, you shouldn't have a dog if you cannot train and look after it, they are a privilege, not a right.

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Yes, but there are to many reports of pitbulls hurting people. They were outlawed in Australia since they mauled several young children, killing some of them, and I think in 2009 it was, a pitbull jumped a fence a tore apart a family dog next door, the family dogs owner, a young boy stabbed the pitbull trying to get if off of his dog and it attacked him as-well. They are vicious things.

they are vicious cause the owner is not doing what he or she need's to be doing, if the dog jumped the fence and ripped a family apart, it's natural instinct for ANY dog to turn mean whether it's been beaten or neglected, not just pitbull's, a doberman also has the ability to lock it's jaw just like a pitbull, king doberman's can be twice maybe triple the size of a pitbull and STILL do the same thing but in most cases pitbull's are blamed. as for those report's of too many people getting hurt by these dog's, that's because they are discriminated against so bad you rarely hear of any other dog doing such thing's cause it's not new's worthy.. "blame the pitbull's"

@NicolaiB, they can be trained like any other dog, they are just a dog like any other, if i had a pitbull and someone broke into my house and it ripped the burglar apart the pitbull would be blamed and most likely be put down but if it was a german shephard, people would commend it just because it's not a pitbull, as you said "Dog owner's are the ones responsible for it's behaviour"

it's just apolling how many people discriminate against these dog's, i know people with pitbull's and the temperment is just remarkable considering "they are apparently the worst animal known to man"

for once i really wish people would put the blame where it belong's....

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I wonder though, if these officers had carried a taser, would it really have stopped a charging pitbull? I have to agree with Nicolai. Carrying a firearm is a necessary evil these days for police officers. There are just too many situations where a firearm could save lives.

And as far as the debate about pitbulls goes, I agree with Slimory. The owner makes the dog and these dogs shouldn't be discriminated based on what they were taught to do.

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