​Did you forget the part about there being around 1 million LEOs, and roughly 200 million police interactions per year(bureau of justice). So yea you can have it both ways in this situation. Like McAwesome said, it's a national trened because the media is making it a trend. What get's the good headline: Everyday cops give people a warning instead of $150 ticket? Or, cop shoots and young unarmed black male, cops beat man almost to death

​Do you seriously think those two stories are in any way equatable?

And you do know that those statistics rely on self-reporting from police departments, right? And not all instances of abuse are reported to the police? There currently isn't a database to measure to scope of police abuse and brutality, and that's not by accident.

 

​They are a national trend because the media is making them. I have never seen the news report on how millions of police officers went through their shifts while conducting themselves in a professional manner. Why is that? Because it isn't controversial. It doesn't garnish views. Meaning it isn't 'newsworthy'. 

​I fully support good, honest, hard-working cops. And I completely understand that they are they vast majority of cops. But I think its ridiculous that you're implying that a cop deserves public praise for "not killing or assaulting someone today".

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Edited May 2, 201510 yr by Riley24

​Do you seriously think those two stories are in any way equatable?

Fine. "Cops save family of 5 from being burned alive in a car"? Or, "Cops almost beat man to death"? That should be a fair comparison, a life or five lives. And I guarantee the second one is getting headlines, meanwhile no one is gonna hear about the first one.

​I fully support good, honest, hard-working cops. And I completely understand that they are they vast majority of cops. But I think its ridiculous that you're implying that a cop deserves public praise for "not killing or assaulting someone today".

​I have one question for you. 

Why do you think that a cop beating someone to death deserves 3 months of screen time on a 24 hour loop?

 

Hell, why do you think a cop beating someone to death deserves media coverage?

​I fully support good, honest, hard-working cops. And I completely understand that they are they vast majority of cops. But I think its ridiculous that you're implying that a cop deserves public praise for "not killing or assaulting someone today".

I never said they deserve praise for not killing anyone. They deserve credit for risking their lives everyday to protect us, but they won't ever get it, from the media at least. And if you don't think they deserve praise I would like for you to call your local crackhead when someone breaks into your house. Or how about when your relative has a heart attack we don't send police. I don't think the 3+ minutes longer it takes for ems/rescue to get there will make that big a of a difference (p.s. it will). On a more serious note.. ​I don't think all cops should be hated because there are a few bad apples. The girl at McDonald's forgot my fries, do I hate every single McDonald's employee? No. How about the mailman.. he delivers my bills.. and I hate bills.. so I hate every maleman/women. Umm.. no. Just because you may not support every law out there doesn't mean you should hate the people that enforce them. This is a broad statement that isn't meant to be directed towards you. 

Edited May 3, 201510 yr by McAwesome6934

​I have one question for you. 

Why do you think that a cop beating someone to death deserves 3 months of screen time on a 24 hour loop?

 

Hell, why do you think a cop beating someone to death deserves media coverage?

​"Cause he's a cop"

​I have one question for you. 

Why do you think that a cop beating someone to death deserves 3 months of screen time on a 24 hour loop?

 

Hell, why do you think a cop beating someone to death deserves media coverage?

​The answer is a little complicated.

The beating of Rodney King was the first time the public eye saw police brutality in its full form. We had heard of police beatings before, but we had never watched it. This public awareness is what lead to the initial protests over the attack. After the verdict turned out not guilty, the public was outraged. How could they possibly be not guilty? We ALL saw the video. That's what sparked the 1992 Los Angeles riots.

Ever since then, there has been recognition for the need to film police interactions. I know for sure that you won't believe me, but police abuse is often swept under the rug. 

So why is media coverage important? Because it is often the ONLY way to get justice. Even then, it often isn't enough. In the case of Eric Garner (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfXqYwyzQpM), we all watched as a cop put his wrist around a man and killed him. Even then, what came of that?

You have to realize that cops are not held to the same standard as you and I. When Michael Slager shot and killed an unarmed man in the back, what did his supervisor tell him to do? They laughed about the adrenaline and told him to relax and go home for a while, and they would ask him "serious questions" later. Could you imagine if they did that for someone that wasn't a cop? You're supposed to ask a homicide suspect questions right away, so they don't have time to think of an alternative story to tell.

Also cops are public officials paid by the taxpayers to protect us. When that trust is repeatedly betrayed without appropriate consequence, it becomes an issue worthy of public attention.

 

I never said they deserve praise for not killing anyone. They deserve credit for risking their lives everyday to protect us, but they won't ever get it, from the media at least. And if you don't think they deserve praise I would like for you to call your local crackhead when someone breaks into your house. Or how about when your relative has a heart attack we don't send police. I don't think the 3+ minutes longer it takes for ems/rescue to get there will make that big a of a difference (p.s. it will). On a more serious note.. ​I don't think all cops should be hated because there are a few bad apples. The girl at McDonald's forgot my fries, do I hate every single McDonald's employee? No. How about the mailman.. he delivers my bills.. and I hate bills.. so I hate every maleman/women. Umm.. no. Just because you may not support every law out there doesn't mean you should hate the people that enforce them. This is a broad statement that isn't meant to be directed towards you. 

All there is to say.

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When you're in police custody, they are responsible for your safety. You can't fasten your own seatbelt when you're in handcuffs. Intentionally leaving his seat-belt undone after he was complaining about injuries DIRECTLY lead to his death. And over-charging is a common practice among prosecutors to scare the defense into agreeing to a plea deal.

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​I'm not one for ad hominems or anything of that sort, but this is so incredibly closed-minded and frankly stupid.

I'm fortunate enough to live in a very nice neighborhood, and I'm fortunate enough to have been given a good education, and I'm fortunate enough to have good opportunity in my life. At least I can appreciate that this is not the case for everyone. People living in this community do not have the same opportunity or education as I do, or as most other Americans do. They're powerless. We don't live in a country with even playing fields.You clearly have no capacity to understand or empathize with what that's like.

​According to the officers at the scene, the belts were not done up due to the person they arrested acting erratically, causing the fear of violence against the officers, which is common and indicative trait of a lot of people who simply don't want to go to jail. It turned out later that he wasn't faking discomfort or possibly injury, but hindsight is always 20/20, isn't it?

I don't understand how you can sit there and say you're not for ad hominems, and you then immediately go on to call me stupid. That's like me asking "With all due respect, were you born retarded or did you work at it?" Telling you that I give you all due respect doesn't get rid of the fact that I insulted you. If you want to proclaim that the people rioting in Baltimore are martyrs you're clearly out of your mind. Beyond 'left extremist' out of your mind, and I've voted democrat since I was old enough to vote. I'm for tolerance and understanding and everything but clearly you're the closed minded person here if you're going to sit there and tell everyone that people in disadvantaged communities don't know the simple difference between right and ****ing wrong. Guess what pal? I live in a nice city that's located less than 10 miles from a very terrible city. One that has a nasty reputation for heroin trafficking, and I just so happen to even attend college in that city. Many people from there attend that same college with me and as best as I can tell, the ones I attend class with aren't selling smack on the corners once the bell rings, because they decided to work hard instead of deciding to be a thug. I also doubt the people I attend class with would also trash their own city simply due to the fact that they could. There are plenty of people in that city that I'm sure are just as short-sighted as the thugs causing all the trouble in Baltimore, but believe it or not, in cities full of trash and poverty are people who know how to behave like a human. It's a choice. You can be born poor, but you can't be born a thug. If you want to debate me further on it go for it, but if you're thinking of peppering any replies to me with insults, you better think twice and put a lid on it.

Edited May 3, 201510 yr by unr3al

​According to the officers at the scene, the belts were not done up due to the person they arrested acting erratically, causing the fear of violence against the officers, which is common and indicative trait of a lot of people who simply don't want to go to jail. It turned out later that he wasn't faking discomfort or possibly injury, but hindsight is always 20/20, isn't it?
I don't understand how you can sit there and say you're not for ad hominems, and you then immediately go on to call me stupid. That's like me asking "With all due respect, were you born retarded or did you work at it?" Telling you that I give you all due respect doesn't get rid of the fact that I insulted you. If you want to proclaim that the people rioting in Baltimore are martyrs you're clearly out of your mind. Beyond 'left extremist' out of your mind, and I've voted democrat since I was old enough to vote. I'm for tolerance and understanding and everything but clearly you're the closed minded person here if you're going to sit there and tell everyone that people in disadvantaged communities don't know the simple difference between right and ****ing wrong. Guess what pal? I live in a nice city that's located less than 10 miles from a very terrible city. One that has a nasty reputation for heroin trafficking, and I just so happen to even attend college in that city. Many people from there attend that same college with me and as best as I can tell, the ones I attend class with aren't selling smack on the corners once the bell rings, because they decided to work hard instead of deciding to be a thug. I also doubt the people I attend class with would also trash their own city simply due to the fact that they could. There are plenty of people in that city that I'm sure are just as short-sighted as the thugs causing all the trouble in Baltimore, but believe it or not, in cities full of trash and poverty are people who know how to behave like a human. It's a choice. You can be born poor, but you can't be born a thug. If you want to debate me further on it go for it, but if you're thinking of peppering any replies to me with insults, you better think twice and put a lid on it.

​Things are getting hot in here, I think we should open a window and let it air out a bit. Well said though, seriously, well said. Couldn't have said it any better myself.

That's enough. It's fine to debate each other and all, but insults will not be tolerated. Any further abusive remarks will subsequently lock this topic.