Thats big news bringing charges on these officers. Wonder if they took the time to analyze what that other transport arrestee had to say. 

From what everyone understands about the incident (what the police department chose to admit and explain, and what happened to Gray), that's what they deserved honestly.

From what everyone understands about the incident (what the police department chose to admit and explain, and what happened to Gray), that's what they deserved honestly.

​Even if the officer(s) violated department policy, policy violations do not equal criminal charges.

Civil? Yes. Criminal? No.

​Even if the officer(s) violated department policy, policy violations do not equal criminal charges.

Should they keep their jobs?

Should they keep their jobs?

​If found that they acted in violation of department policy, they should be punished in accordance of department guidelines and guidelines of their collective bargaining agreement.

I hope the system makes an example out of these cops. Cops are not above the law, and they should face criminal charges for what they've done.

Edited May 1, 201511 yr by Riley24

I hope the system makes an example out of these cops. Cops are not above the law, and they should face criminal charges for what they've done.

​I honestly feel like a portion of the decision to punish these officers, was to make an example of the officers. It was a test of law and public reaction.

​I honestly feel like a portion of the decision to punish these officers, was to make an example of the officers. It was a test of law and public reaction.

​Sometimes the only conceivable reason that police brutality occurs is that cops think that they can get away with it. Handuffing a man and not buckling his seatbelt, and then proceeding to drive all over town is a form of torture and punishment. Its known as "nickel riding". This is a criminal action as well as a huge violation of police procedure. I hope that the judge doesn't give them leniency just because they're cops, because they're bad cops. If you believe in the idea of "a few bad apples", great. But these are the bad apples, and they deserve to be hit by the book.

 HandCuffing a man and not buckling his seatbelt, and then proceeding to drive all over town is a form of torture and punishment.

​I don't understand how that's a form of Torture.

​I don't understand how that's a form of Torture.

​Because you bounce around violently in the back of the van, and since you're handcuffed you can't protect yourself.

Imagine if you fell face first but you arms couldn't brace your fall. That's the point of nickel rides, to rough up a suspect.

Edited May 1, 201511 yr by Riley24

​Because you bounce around violently in the back of the van, and since you're handcuffed you can't protect yourself.

Imagine if you fell face first but you arms couldn't brace your fall. That's the point of nickel rides, to rough up a suspect.

That doesn't make any sense. I don't believe they would do that. 

In Australia, there aren't any seat belts in the back of Police Paddy Wagons and 9 times out of 10 people are handcuffed while inside the vehicle for the trip to the watch house, yet you don't see suspects coming out with broken necks and what not over here...

 

Below are some images of the holding cells inside different states Police transport vehicles.

That doesn't make any sense. I don't believe they would do that. ​

Cops aren't inherently good people. Its not inconceivable that tough guys with a badge and a gun got pissed off by a suspect, or the fact that they had to chase him, and tossed him in the back of a van and let him bounce around. 

http://gawker.com/freddie-grays-seatbelt-was-not-fastened-after-arrest-p-1699954402

There is a documented history of "nickel riding" or "rough riding", and there are a few court cases over these occurrences.

Cops aren't inherently good people.

​This made me flip out of my chair. How the hell could you possibly say that Police officers aren't good people? Police officers, good or bad, put their lives on the line every single day to keep our streets safe. While you sit at home behind a computer screen safe and sound from being murdered, an officer is out on the street keeping you safe. While you pull your sheets over your chest and roll over in bed as you fall asleep, an officer is driving around in their cruiser looking for drug dealers. Police are good people because of what they do.

​This made me flip out of my chair. How the hell could you possibly say that Police officers aren't good people? Police officers, good or bad, put their lives on the line every single day to keep our streets safe. While you sit at home behind a computer screen safe and sound from being murdered, an officer is out on the street keeping you safe. While you pull your sheets over your chest and roll over in bed as you fall asleep, an officer is driving around in their cruiser looking for drug dealers. Police are good people because of what they do.

​You didn't understand my point. Police aren't inherently good people. They're people. Some people are bad people. Just because someone pursues a career in law enforcement, doesn't automatically make them a good person.

I thought you were a big believer in "A few bad apples"? But yet every time we show you bad apples, you say they're not bad? 

Edited May 2, 201511 yr by Riley24

​Because you bounce around violently in the back of the van, and since you're handcuffed you can't protect yourself.

Imagine if you fell face first but you arms couldn't brace your fall. That's the point of nickel rides, to rough up a suspect.

​Heh.

That's your definition of torture?

lol

​Heh.

That's your definition of torture?

lol

​No, that's the English language's definition of torture. And if you're laughing at that, I urge you to think about if it was YOU bouncing around in the back of the paddy wagon. If it was YOUR spine that was 80% severed. Maybe your attitude would change.

Important quotes from the Maryland State Attorney: LINK : http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/criminal-charges-filed-freddie-gray-death-transcript-article-1.2206744

"Lt. Rice, Officer Miller and Officer Nero failed to establish probable cause for Mr. Gray’s arrest as no crime had been committed by Mr. Gray. Accordingly Lt. Rice Officer MIller and Office Nero illegally arrested Mr. Gray. Upon arrival of the transport wagon driven by Officer Caesar Goodson. Lt. Rice Officer Miller and Officer Nero loaded Mr. Gray into the wagon and at no point was he secured by a seatbelt while in the wagon contrary to a BPD general order."

"Despite Mr. Gray’s seriously deteriorating medical condition, no medical assistance was rendered or summoned for Mr. Gray at that time by any officer."

"The manner of death deemed homicide by the Maryland Medical Examiner is believed to be the result of a fatal injury that occurred while Mr. Gray was unrestrained by a seatbelt in custody of the Baltimore Police Department wagon."

 

At the very least this sounds like solid ground for manslaughter charges. The murder charges are to scare the defense into agreeing to a plea, which I predict is what will happen. It should be very obvious that this would not have happened without the rioting, however wrong it may have been. Its a sad fact that the justice system doesn't hear everyone's cry for help, so sometimes you have to scream.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/freddie-grays-family-could-receive-a-64-million-wrongful-death-settlement_55eef3b8e4b002d5c0769ae9

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2015/09/freddie-gray-settlement/404191/

So update, the city has paid a ridiculous amount of money to the family of Freddie Gray, the mayor stated that the settlement was made so that the family could have some sort of peace or whatever. 

Yes, the city has paid the family $6.4M