What do you think?

I prefer sedans and the utility to have rambars.  Tahoes and Suburbans don't need them in my opinion, but the department near me don't use them on their Fords and I think they are SO UGLY.

I don't care about looks necessarily, care more about functionality. Whether it be saving some money on repairs from any pursuits or pushing vehicles off the road. During the winter I saw my pd pushing some vehicles stuck in the snow, and occasionally I see them pushing stalled out cars of the road. So looks don't really matter imo

I don't care about looks necessarily, care more about functionality. Whether it be saving some money on repairs from any pursuits or pushing vehicles off the road. During the winter I saw my pd pushing some vehicles stuck in the snow, and occasionally I see them pushing stalled out cars of the road. So looks don't really matter imo

​Well, I don't know for you, but I for sure wouldn't let a giant, meanly shaped piece of metal push my car if I stalled. Can you imagine how it can bend your bumper/bodywork? Heck, I'd prefer to push my car myself, even if in the snow or something, or call for a private tow-truck company that I'd have to pay. At least I know my vehicle will be safely moved.

That being said, I think pushbars are more useful when it comes to counties and less populated areas, as officers (who are obviously less numbered than in large urban areas) would have less opportunities to place road blocks but more opportunities to pit the suspect, while in bigger cities (LA, NY, San Francisco, Washington, etc), police have more cars to keep up with the suspect and block the different roads the suspect might take, but almost never can pit the suspect due to safety with pedestrians and traffic.

Long story short: pushbars are good for counties and less populated areas, less good for urban/suburban areas.

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Well, I don't know for you, but I for sure wouldn't let a giant, meanly shaped piece of metal push my car if I stalled. Can you imagine how it can bend your bumper/bodywork? Heck, I'd prefer to push my car myself, even if in the snow or something, or call for a private tow-truck company that I'd have to pay. At least I know my vehicle will be safely moved.

That being said, I think pushbars are more useful when it comes to counties and less populated areas, as officers (who are obviously less numbered than in large urban areas) would have less opportunities to place road blocks but more opportunities to pit the suspect, while in bigger cities (LA, NY, San Francisco, Washington, etc), police have more cars to keep up with the suspect and block the different roads the suspect might take, but almost never can pit the suspect due to safety with pedestrians and traffic.

Long story short: pushbars are good for counties and less populated areas, less good for urban/suburban areas.

​Actually, they don't even really leave a mark, they dont ram you to push it, all they do is barely tapp you, it is actually better and more helpful.

I like my cruisers and sedans without one, just looks cleaner. But SUVs are already meant to look tough, so I'd go with a bar on those.

I agree with theninja35.

Tho I wouldn't mind a tiny rambar on sedans, kinda like how the NYPD CVPI's have. Just has to fit the vehicle.

​Well, I don't know for you, but I for sure wouldn't let a giant, meanly shaped piece of metal push my car if I stalled. Can you imagine how it can bend your bumper/bodywork? Heck, I'd prefer to push my car myself, even if in the snow or something, or call for a private tow-truck company that I'd have to pay. At least I know my vehicle will be safely moved.

That being said, I think pushbars are more useful when it comes to counties and less populated areas, as officers (who are obviously less numbered than in large urban areas) would have less opportunities to place road blocks but more opportunities to pit the suspect, while in bigger cities (LA, NY, San Francisco, Washington, etc), police have more cars to keep up with the suspect and block the different roads the suspect might take, but almost never can pit the suspect due to safety with pedestrians and traffic.

Long story short: pushbars are good for counties and less populated areas, less good for urban/suburban areas.

​If your car is blocking the road, you may not have a choice -- the police need to clear you off that road. Pushbars aren't meant to be used for ramming; they often have nothing to do with PIT maneuvers (which use the front quarter of the car, often more than could be covered by even a wraparound pushbar), and *ramming* (as distinct from PIT) isn't a common police tactic outside of GTA (low-relative-speed ramming doesn't have a huge effect, high-relative-speed ramming is lethal to all involved). PITs are used fairly often in urban areas; they require enough pursuing cars to actually bring the suspect into custody after the PIT (you can't PIT by yourself), and roadblocks are very *uncommon* (as they're very dangerous, far more so than PITs). A pursuit in a city is a serious danger to pedestrians, so stopping it quickly is important.

Pushbars exist for traffic control, not for pursuits. They aren't designed for high-speed impact (in fact, they make high-speed impact much worse, by not having a crumple zone and bending the car frame). If you want to know how it bends the bumper/bodywork, look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJFH-3Q8nWw#t=2m51s -- the car in front was just pushed all the way to a gas station, with no damage.