alright i read that 3rd party modifications arnt allowed but others seem to run them perfectly anyways the only 3rd party mods i have are modded ( police1, police2, fbi, noose, polpatriot ) <--- cop cars named as follows in spark iv all modded also i have ELS v6 all cars are els enabled and the last 2 3rd party mods are a road texture and taxi bug fixes [ traffic flow and traffic control system ] Help please , thanks for taking the time to read this

ELS V6 is highly unstable, try using V5.

What type of crash? If it is a CTD then LCPDFR is not to blame.

wait a minute before i get into that ive been reading xlive.dll and dsound.dll sometimes crashes the games any clue if this might be true?

Hm. You have both TrafficFlow, and another traffic mod? What happens if you get rid of one? Will you still crash?

As to xlive and dsound, if you have both in your GTA IV folder at the same time, it can cause issues.

Edited February 17, 201214 yr by gnat326

I need to know the meaning of ctd in order to answer that question

too be honest i do my research on all the things i install before doing so and i read that they work good together as traffic flow and traffic load will crash but not traffic control system and traffic flow

Please edit your post rather than double posting. -Sniper296

I need to know the meaning of ctd in order to answer that question

A crash to desktop (or CTD) is a computer program crash which is said to occur when a program (commonly a video game) unexpectedly quits, abruptly taking the user back to the desktop. Usually, the term is applied only to crashes where no error is displayed, hence all the user sees as a result of the crash is the desktop. Many times there is no apparent action that causes a CTD. During normal function, the program may freeze for a shorter period of time, and then close by itself. Also during normal function, the program may become a black screen and play the last few seconds of sound (depending on the size of the data buffer) that was being played repeatedly before it crashes to desktop. Other times it may appear to be triggered by a certain action, such as loading an area. - Wikipedia

for your sake on where u get ur information wikipedia is made by a bunch of non educated people who post what they know in the info just saying and no it turns my screen black and said windows isnt responding and crashed or something

Edited February 17, 201214 yr by Dreamer-

In regard to your earlier post, do you have both Xlive.dll and dsound.dll in your GTA IV folder? And while I'm at it, when does the game crash?

Edited February 17, 201214 yr by gnat326

Hm. You have both TrafficFlow, and another traffic mod? What happens if you get rid of one? Will you still crash?

As to xlive and dsound, if you have both in your GTA IV folder at the same time, it can cause issues.

xlive is to play online correct ? and dsound is another asi loader correct?

for your sake on where u get ur information wikipedia is made by a bunch of non educated people who post what they know in the info just saying and no it turns my screen black and said windows isnt responding and crashed or something

It is not a CTD then.

Xlive is the one that disables online play. Both are asi loaders.

ohhh well thats fucking useless to me then even tho idk how to go online anyways lol ill try removing that

In regard to your earlier post, do you have both Xlive.dll and dsound.dll in your GTA IV folder? And while I'm at it, when does the game crash?

every 15 minutes id say would be the best assumption 15-20 and yes i do

_{ok nvm guys it freezes and closes by its self}

Stop multi-posting. Edit your topic. Furthermore Wikipedia is a site that is heavily monitored every day for false content and will request cited sources if necessary. But CTD means crash to desktop and all of the symptoms explained in that earlier post are correct. You'll have myself and several other current or former software developers tell you the same thing.

Every 15-20 minutes, huh? Try changing your police and police2 vehicles to non-ELS vehicles. If you try to call them for backup or anything, sometimes ELS and LCPDFR conflict, and cause this type of crash.

xlive is to play online correct ? and dsound is another asi loader correct?

No, xlive takes away the ability to play online. This means you cannot play online. They are both asi loaders.