No offense, he robs my store he will get a glock 22 to the face....

 

Wow :) I was just making a point why not help a person like him. This way you can keep your glock 22 in your holster. These young officer have literally turned enforcement into a real life GTA game wow. And im pretty sure that if a felon wants to rob you he'll be prepared your little glock 22 would have you calling for additional units in a matter of seconds felons, thugs, and gangsters have bigger guns and trust me they know how to use them. Lesson we have to learn to take a positive approach at things.

 

Good day officers stay safe and positive :)

 

Quite frankly I agree with Gunner. I like to think that I'm a good person that helps others when I can, but that stops the second you become a threat to me or my family. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that is inclined to help someone robbing them.

Positions such as police officer, firefighter, and many other positions that the general public have a high sense of trust in don't hire people who have a criminal history because it would look bad for the agency and hurts the reputation of their officers. And if you really do know "plenty of police officers" breaking the law everyday I suggest you report it to your local agency.

 

He should have thought about the consequences before he committed the crime. If I know something is wrong then I don't do it, simple as that. He made the choice to commit a felony. And to use that as a justification for him to commit more felonies is just more proof that he wouldn't be suitable anyway.

 

There is a HUGE difference between a felony and a non-criminal traffic violation. Also please don't spew sh*t out on the internet if you don't know what you are talking about, do some research because the officer in Ferguson has not been charged with murder.

There is a HUGE difference between a felony and a non-criminal traffic violation. Also please don't spew sh*t out on the internet if you don't know what you are talking about, do some research because the officer in Ferguson has not been charged with murder.

 

First off dude never instruct me to anything ok? Secondly If you had of heard the video of that poor kid being executed I don't think even would doubt that officer Wilson should be charged with murder. In fact if I was a police officer alongside him when he killed mike brown I might had of pulled out my glock and shot him right after. 

Quite frankly I agree with Gunner. I like to think that I'm a good person that helps others when I can, but that stops the second you become a threat to me or my family. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that is inclined to help someone robbing them.

. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that is inclined to help someone robbing them

 

Nope I strongly disagree. Only an Idiot would send a felon back out on the streets with no possible way to survive. That's like catching a lion in a suburban area after biting someone, cage it and then releasing in a huge city, now that lion can feast. :) Point is if your going to release a criminal ensure that he/she has no excuses to resort back to crime therefore if you and when you arrest him/her again your justified into doing so and they have no excuses. Because I know that If I was turned down by every employment opportunity and I needed to feed my family I may not kill or rob anyone but I will sell whatever I need to sell. to feed myself and my family.  Call it wrong but I call it surviving. Self preservation first  

There is a HUGE difference between a felony and a non-criminal traffic violation. Also please don't spew sh*t out on the internet if you don't know what you are talking about, do some research because the officer in Ferguson has not been charged with murder.

 

First off dude never instruct me to anything ok? Secondly If you had of heard the video of that poor kid being executed I don't think even would doubt that officer Wilson should be charged with murder. In fact if I was a police officer alongside him when he killed mike brown I might had of pulled out my glock and shot him right after. 

. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that is inclined to help someone robbing them

 

Nope I strongly disagree. Only an Idiot would send a felon back out on the streets with no possible way to survive. That's like catching a lion in a suburban area after biting someone, cage it and then releasing in a huge city, now that lion can feast. :) Point is if your going to release a criminal ensure that he/she has no excuses to resort back to crime therefore if you and when you arrest him/her again your justified into doing so and they have no excuses. Because I know that If I was turned down by every employment opportunity and I needed to feed my family I may not kill or rob anyone but I will sell whatever I need to sell. to feed myself and my family.  Call it wrong but I call it surviving. Self preservation first  

 

Maybe I'm too cynical for your point of view then. I'm all for providing programs to cons getting out and such, but I have no sympathy for someone who decides they need to go after others just because they screwed up. 

 

And to clarify, would you really sit there and offer some sh*thead a job while he's got a knife or a gun on you while he cleans our your cash register?

To be perfectly honest, if you've committed a crime and been sentenced for it, served your time and then been released again. Your life is far from over.

There are plenty of things you can do, volunteer work for example, that will pick you back up and help you.

 

We had an ex convict visit our college while I was there (I'm at university now) who was part of a volunteer program in which he went around talking to college students about how prisons work, and what it was like going through that experience. The end result and pretty much the purpose of his talk was to deter young people away from resorting to crime, he told us a lot about how it closed a lot of doors for him whereas going to college and getting good grades would be ultimately the best decision to make even if it wasn't "cool" in your friend's eyes. He even spoke about peer pressure and how "hey mate I dare you to smoke this" might seem fun at the time but 2 years later slams you behind bars for possession of an illegal drug.

His life isn't over, in fact I would say it was opening up for him, he get's to wear a suit and go around changing other people's lives by being an example to society.

 

However, there are certain places that should remain shut. Law enforcement should be one of those, yes alright you may well have forgotten about the crime you committed and the public may have too, you may well have been doing hundreds of hours volunteering to prove your worth. But at the end of the day, you have to be in the absolute highest position of trust when working for the Law/EMS, and that doesn't come with criminal history.

 

It's like applying to work for a car dealership when you have a history of crashing cars. They will say no wont they. You may not think it's fair. But they are acting out of the best interest for their company.

It's the price you have to pay, some doors stay closed when you take a regretful path in life.

First off dude never instruct me to anything ok? Secondly If you had of heard the video of that poor kid being executed I don't think even would doubt that officer Wilson should be charged with murder. In fact if I was a police officer alongside him when he killed mike brown I might had of pulled out my glock and shot him right after. 

This is exactly why you're thankfully not a police officer, and thankfully never will be. The job of the police is to arrest people for crimes and investigate (which your fantasy execution scenario does not fit the description of). However, they have guns because not everyone is willing to cooperate, and as human beings, they are allowed to defend their own life.

 

The subject of Mike Brown is >an entirely different thread, but all evidence points towards Wilson being innocent, with every single "eye witness" making their rounds on the news being caught in lies.

 

I'm willing to bet that if you actually were a cop like you wish you were, you would see just how often your precious felons will lie to get out of a crime, and just how often their community rallies around them in an excuse to steal new TVs for "justice".

 

 

 

Nope I strongly disagree. Only an Idiot would send a felon back out on the streets with no possible way to survive. That's like catching a lion in a suburban area after biting someone, cage it and then releasing in a huge city, now that lion can feast. :) Point is if your going to release a criminal ensure that he/she has no excuses to resort back to crime therefore if you and when you arrest him/her again your justified into doing so and they have no excuses. Because I know that If I was turned down by every employment opportunity and I needed to feed my family I may not kill or rob anyone but I will sell whatever I need to sell. to feed myself and my family.  Call it wrong but I call it surviving. Self preservation first  

 

That really is a bad analogy. A lion in a suburban area tends to be shot because they pose a threat to the safety of those in the area. Only under special circumstances would a team from a zoo (since they are the only ones trained to deal with them) would come to an area and tranquilize it.

 

A lion is just a lion. Unlike a human, it's not capable of complex thought, and only thinks of staying alive and passing its genes on. If it attacks some one, it's not for that person's money, but because it needs to eat and sees the human as a meal.

 

And "surviving" in a civilized society is not robbing from your fellow man in order to survive.

 

These young officer have literally turned enforcement into a real life GTA game wow.

Seriously? You think young cops have ruined the image of law enforcement, but you want FELONS to be involved in it and think that will make the cops look better?

i have to agee with ineseri i would never want a criminal current or not to work for busniess as i want good people to work for my company not bad ones.

Because I know that If I was turned down by every employment opportunity and I needed to feed my family I may not kill or rob anyone but I will sell whatever I need to sell. to feed myself and my family.  Call it wrong but I call it surviving. Self preservation first  

You would sell drugs to feed yourself and family? That's not necessarily the best civilized person, not every employment opportunity out there is going to turn away someone who has been in prison. Obviously the police and anything in public service will because they deal with people, convicted felons can work at a construction site, or work for any other small jobs. Sure, they might not get into big jobs such as a grocery store or Home Depot, but there are plenty of other opportunities for people who have been in jail to work for.

This is exactly why you're thankfully not a police officer, and thankfully never will be. The job of the police is to arrest people for crimes and investigate (which your fantasy execution scenario does not fit the description of). However, they have guns because not everyone is willing to cooperate, and as human beings, they are allowed to defend their own life.

 

The subject of Mike Brown is >an entirely different thread, but all evidence points towards Wilson being innocent, with every single "eye witness" making their rounds on the news being caught in lies.

 

I'm willing to bet that if you actually were a cop like you wish you were, you would see just how often your precious felons will lie to get out of a crime, and just how often their community rallies around them in an excuse to steal new TVs for "justice".

 

 

 

 

That really is a bad analogy. A lion in a suburban area tends to be shot because they pose a threat to the safety of those in the area. Only under special circumstances would a team from a zoo (since they are the only ones trained to deal with them) would come to an area and tranquilize it.

 

A lion is just a lion. Unlike a human, it's not capable of complex thought, and only thinks of staying alive and passing its genes on. If it attacks some one, it's not for that person's money, but because it needs to eat and sees the human as a meal.

 

And "surviving" in a civilized society is not robbing from your fellow man in order to survive.

 

Seriously? You think young cops have ruined the image of law enforcement, but you want FELONS to be involved in it and think that will make the cops look better?

A lion is just a lion. Unlike a human, it's not capable of complex thought, and only thinks of staying alive and passing its genes on. If it attacks some one, it's not for that person's money, but because it needs to eat and sees the human as a meal.

 

And "surviving" in a civilized society is not robbing from your fellow man in order to survive.

 

 

A lion is not capable of complex thinking really? First animal nature was by far before human nature, secondly human nature is often like to that of animal nature. Just because the world labels a Dog a Dog doesn't mean it's nothing. Animals are capable of feelings as human's are, animals are also able to rationale better than humans are able. Bet you wouldn't expect that because according to you a lion is just a lion. :)  

 

And "surviving" in a civilized society is not robbing from your fellow man in order to survive.

 

Ok here's a better analogy being that you weren't quite the fan of my last one. Hunters go out into the woods looking for food to eat for survival purposes.  While waiting they usually come across some animal(deer, bear, lamb) etc... minding its own business, and while doing so a hunter so call takes  its life all in the name of survival. Now look at the term take

Take-to carry or bring with one; convey. Meaning in order to take something one usually has to be willing to offer, in which I don't think a deer would offer that if it could speak our language in fact they run which is a plain sign. So hunters steal lives in the name of survival if its good for them to kill an animal then hey ya know. Survival is survival no matter how one looks at it. It doesn't have boundaries. Just because America calls it something different when hunting animals doesn't mean its right.  

You would sell drugs to feed yourself and family? That's not necessarily the best civilized person, not every employment opportunity out there is going to turn away someone who has been in prison. Obviously the police and anything in public service will because they deal with people, convicted felons can work at a construction site, or work for any other small jobs. Sure, they might not get into big jobs such as a grocery store or Home Depot, but there are plenty of other opportunities for people who have been in jail to work for.

Lol sir civilized sir who say's selling drugs and alcohol isn't civilized? Is it the same people who think selling cigarettes, alcohol, and lethal weapons.is civilized? Alcohol is a drug sir. A drug is anything that gets the human mind into believing it can't do without it. If a human accepts alcohol America allows he/she to accept the consequences so the same should go for any other drug being sold. Just because america can't tax it doesn't make it wrong. The only reason America doesn't want to legislate drugs is because they know everyone would have a job, and millions to go with it including blacks, and trust me that's huge no no for the black community. :)   

 

 

Lol sir civilized sir who say's selling drugs and alcohol isn't civilized? Is it the same people who think selling cigarettes, alcohol, and lethal weapons.is civilized? Alcohol is a drug sir. A drug is anything that gets the human mind into believing it can't do without it. If a human accepts alcohol America allows he/she to accept the consequences so the same should go for any other drug being sold. Just because america can't tax it doesn't make it wrong. The only reason America doesn't want to legislate drugs is because they know everyone would have a job, and millions to go with it including blacks, and trust me that's huge no no for the black community. :)   

 

Selling drugs is against the law. I never said anything about alcohol not being civilized, alcohol isn't against the law, but selling and possession of drugs are. You higher your chances of going to jail and getting stuck in more crap by selling, you get arrested and you have a case that you need to deal with on your hands. You pretty much make your situation worse by doing stuff that you should not be doing, you catch cases and then you sometimes have to serve time for catching those cases. And why don't we shut down all the beer stores and arrest the beer store owners since they are breaking the law by selling "drugs" called alcohol, Beer is perfectly legal, which is why it's legal to sell it with a license. 

Selling drugs is against the law. I never said anything about alcohol not being civilized, alcohol isn't against the law, but selling and possession of drugs are. You higher your chances of going to jail and getting stuck in more crap by selling, you get arrested and you have a case that you need to deal with on your hands. You pretty much make your situation worse by doing stuff that you should not be doing, you catch cases and then you sometimes have to serve time for catching those cases. And why don't we shut down all the beer stores and arrest the beer store owners since they are breaking the law by selling "drugs" called alcohol, Beer is perfectly legal, which is why it's legal to sell it with a license. 

 Beer is perfectly legal, which is why it's legal to sell it with a license.  So you think that because Its legal its OK to sell something that hypnotize the mind into doing ridiculous things once you've had too much?  Oh so I get it only when the government tell us to do things we need not to investigate them just follow along. OK so why don't america take's it own advice? In some countries its legal to marry an 11 year old girl, but America is over there trying to so called civilize that country :) wow propaganda at its best.

 Beer is perfectly legal, which is why it's legal to sell it with a license.  So you think that because Its legal its OK to sell something that hypnotize the mind into doing ridiculous things once you've had too much?  Oh so I get it only when the government tell us to do things we need not to investigate them just follow along. OK so why don't america take's it own advice? In some countries its legal to marry an 11 year old girl, but America is over there trying to so called civilize that country :) wow propaganda at its best.

Do you realize that we have the police to enforce the law and to penalise those who take the privilege of drinking beer too much? Just like the police arrest people who sell drugs. The cops have a job to do and enforce the law, which is what they are paid to do. The legal limit of drinking beer in the United States is 0.08%. The police have every right to arrest you for drinking and driving, public intox or anything that can endanger the public once above that limit. You're pretty much saying that ALL beer is wrong to drink, which is incorrect. We have limits when drinking beer so people do not get out of control doing it, beer isn't a drug unless you make it one by drinking too much than you should be. Yes, it can take control of you and make you do crazy things, but police are there to arrest and enforce the laws and held those folks accountable. 

First off dude never instruct me to anything ok? Secondly If you had of heard the video of that poor kid being executed I don't think even would doubt that officer Wilson should be charged with murder. In fact if I was a police officer alongside him when he killed mike brown I might had of pulled out my glock and shot him right after. 

You seriously need to do some research and by research I don't mean going to your favorite news source that has some kind of bias and looking there. Do some serious reading because you will find that the "witnesses" pretty much are caught in lies and this video you speak of doesn't even catch the shooting, the video takes place like 5 minutes after the shooting so it doesn't prove anything. I hope you never become a cop because you are basically saying that if you feel a fellow officer did something wrong you would just execute them yourself, how is that any better than what you are accusing Officer Wilson of doing? You are saying that you are justified in executing someone because you don't agree with their judgement call. I can tell by your way of writing, the logic you are using, and the attitude you have that you are probably a young kid (under the age of 16), maybe when you are older and more mature you will understand what you are saying. I'm just going to chalk this up as young arrogance.

 

 

 

A lion is not capable of complex thinking really? First animal nature was by far before human nature, secondly human nature is often like to that of animal nature. Just because the world labels a Dog a Dog doesn't mean it's nothing. Animals are capable of feelings as human's are, animals are also able to rationale better than humans are able. Bet you wouldn't expect that because according to you a lion is just a lion. :) 

Where did he say that a dog is nothing? He didn't say that animals aren't capable of feeling something or processing information, he is just saying that they are not capable of thinking the way we think. A dog or lion or whatever animal you want to use is not capable of processing and using the information that we can use, if they could then dogs and lions would be able to drive cars, order meals, and do things that humans can do.

 

 Beer is perfectly legal, which is why it's legal to sell it with a license.  So you think that because Its legal its OK to sell something that hypnotize the mind into doing ridiculous things once you've had too much?  Oh so I get it only when the government tell us to do things we need not to investigate them just follow along. OK so why don't america take's it own advice? In some countries its legal to marry an 11 year old girl, but America is over there trying to so called civilize that country :) wow propaganda at its best.

I don't think you are old enough to drink alcohol much less understand how it works so how about you leave that to people who know what they are talking about.

Do you realize that we have the police to enforce the law and to penalise those who take the privilege of drinking beer too much? Just like the police arrest people who sell drugs. The cops have a job to do and enforce the law, which is what they are paid to do. The legal limit of drinking beer in the United States is 0.08%. The police have every right to arrest you for drinking and driving, public intox or anything that can endanger the public once above that limit. You're pretty much saying that ALL beer is wrong to drink, which is incorrect. We have limits when drinking beer so people do not get out of control doing it, beer isn't a drug unless you make it one by drinking too much than you should be. Yes, it can take control of you and make you do crazy things, but police are there to arrest and enforce the laws and held those folks accountable. 

Oh come'on sir. You know that when your addicted to something you can't just have one. I don't anyone who went to a party and only had one beer or two.

You seriously need to do some research and by research I don't mean going to your favorite news source that has some kind of bias and looking there. Do some serious reading because you will find that the "witnesses" pretty much are caught in lies and this video you speak of doesn't even catch the shooting, the video takes place like 5 minutes after the shooting so it doesn't prove anything. I hope you never become a cop because you are basically saying that if you feel a fellow officer did something wrong you would just execute them yourself, how is that any better than what you are accusing Officer Wilson of doing? You are saying that you are justified in executing someone because you don't agree with their judgement call. I can tell by your way of writing, the logic you are using, and the attitude you have that you are probably a young kid (under the age of 16), maybe when you are older and more mature you will understand what you are saying. I'm just going to chalk this up as young arrogance.

 

Where did he say that a dog is nothing? He didn't say that animals aren't capable of feeling something or processing information, he is just saying that they are not capable of thinking the way we think. A dog or lion or whatever animal you want to use is not capable of processing and using the information that we can use, if they could then dogs and lions would be able to drive cars, order meals, and do things that humans can do.

 

I don't think you are old enough to drink alcohol much less understand how it works so how about you leave that to people who know what they are talking about

Sir none of your rebuttals are even worth responding to honestly. And trust me by responding I'm doing you a favor.

 

 if they could then dogs and lions would be able to drive cars, order meals, and do things that humans can do. What does this have to do with the price of tea in china?  Sir there are humans who can't drive cars, order meals, etc.. I.E. disable people. The point I'm trying to make is stop being slaves to your country. If congress legislated child porn would you enforce that law? And please just answer the question and don't beat around the bush? 

Oh come'on sir. You know that when your addicted to something you can't just have one. I don't anyone who went to a party and only had one beer or two.

I understand it's not easy to just give up drinking something that's good. My point is that the police are out there to make sure that when people are drinking beer, they are doing it safely and legitimately rather than drinking and driving or public intoxication, and if you do that then the police are there to stop you. 

Oh come'on sir. You know that when your addicted to something you can't just have one. I don't anyone who went to a party and only had one beer or two.

Like I said in my previous post I am guessing you are pretty young so I'm willing to bet you don't know too many responsible people who drink. I have been to plenty of parties and bars and only had a couple beers. I rarely have an interest in getting completely drunk, especially if I have stuff I need to do the next day (like go to work). Just because you don't know anyone who only had a couple beers doesn't mean they aren't out there. Believe it or not, there is a lot you don't know.

Sir none of your rebuttals are even worth responding to honestly. And trust me by responding I'm doing you a favor.

 

 if they could then dogs and lions would be able to drive cars, order meals, and do things that humans can do. What does this have to do with the price of tea in china?  Sir there are humans who can't drive cars, order meals, etc.. I.E. disable people. The point I'm trying to make is stop being slaves to your country. If congress legislated child porn would you enforce that law? And please just answer the question and don't beat around the bush? 

Lol, I am sure you are doing me a favor.

 

Slave to my country? If congress legislated child porn? That doesn't even make sense, do you know what you are saying? And if you mean would I enforce a child pornography law, then the answer is yes. And BTW, child pornography is already against the law and the police are very strict on enforcing that law.

Like I said in my previous post I am guessing you are pretty young so I'm willing to bet you don't know too many responsible people who drink. I have been to plenty of parties and bars and only had a couple beers. I rarely have an interest in getting completely drunk, especially if I have stuff I need to do the next day (like go to work). Just because you don't know anyone who only had a couple beers doesn't mean they aren't out there. Believe it or not, there is a lot you don't know.

Lol, I am sure you are doing me a favor.

 

Slave to my country? If congress legislated child porn? That doesn't even make sense, do you know what you are saying? And if you mean would I enforce a child pornography law, then the answer is yes. And BTW, child pornography is already against the law and the police are very strict on enforcing that law.

Wow first off child pornography is legislated hence why its against the law.  but I was speaking on terms of if it was legislated to the point of legality. Secondly let me make it plain for you. You seem to lack and understanding thus why you sort of dodged the question. If the law said it was ok for one to have sex with and under aged child, would you support such law?

 

Also im not young Im 25 years of age, I would consider that age old enough to know better. :)

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You're putting on a good show O'Donnel, I'll give you that. That's just about the only thing I'll be giving you, though.

Wow first off child pornography is legislated hence why its against the law.  but I was speaking on terms of if it was legislated to the point of legality. Secondly let me make it plain for you. You seem to lack and understanding thus why you sort of dodged the question. If the law said it was ok for one to have sex with and under aged child, would you support such law?

 

Also im not young Im 25 years of age, I would consider that age old enough to know better. :)

I think you are using words that you don't quite know the meaning of. Why didn't you just say "what would you do if child pornography was legal?" I'm not dodging questions, you are just wording your questions very poorly.

 

And to answer your new question, no I would not support a law that lets you have sex with an under aged child. If that did become legal (even though that is disgusting and will never happen) then I would not have any law to enforce so I'm not sure what the whole point of that question is.

I think you are using words that you don't quite know the meaning of. Why didn't you just say "what would you do if child pornography was legal?" I'm not dodging questions, you are just wording your questions very poorly.

 

And to answer your new question, no I would not support a law that lets you have sex with an under aged child. If that did become legal (even though that is disgusting and will never happen) then I would not have any law to enforce so I'm not sure what the whole point of that question is.

So now your the grammar police? Dude I'm on a forum for LCPDFR  I need not to try and prove I can speak like a professor. I'm sure your text messages don't look professional all the time.  I'm In college seeking a degree in Paralegal studies That's a profession that require's one to be proficient in English, and use proper grammar; so trust me I know how to use the proper grammatical tools when writing. The point of the question was to see if you would follow everything America legalizes even if it wasn't a good law. I wanted to see if you were so full of patriotism that you were blind.   :)

You're putting on a good show O'Donnel, I'll give you that. That's just about the only thing I'll be giving you, though.

Anyone that's feels someone is ignorant to the point of being funny, and chooses to engage in it with him, is just as ignorant. 

So now your the grammar police? Dude I'm on a forum for LCPDFR  I need not to try and prove I can speak like a professor. I'm sure your text messages don't look professional all the time.  I'm In college seeking a degree in Paralegal studies That's a profession that require's one to be proficient in English, and use proper grammar; so trust me I know how to use the proper grammatical tools when writing. The point of the question was to see if you would follow everything America legalizes even if it wasn't a good law. I wanted to see if you were so full of patriotism that you were blind.   :)

I'm not saying you need to have perfect grammar, but it helps if you use your words correctly so I can understand what you are saying. Sure, my text messages aren't always grammatically correct but I make sure that what I'm trying to say still comes across in a clear manner.

 

No where did I say that every law that the U.S. has is a good law, but regardless of my opinion that is the law and I will enforce it even if I disagree with it. You are jumping from topic to topic I'm not even sure where you are going with this.